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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: capera on July 16, 2004, 04:25:36 AM
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Report from the field is in the early hours of July 16, Fox367th and Samnite of the 367th, under BISH command, plotted a course for CV20 and headed it toward a Knit base. This is the CV which we have been hiding from the Knits for a week. They then switched countries to Knights and sunk it with P38's thus giving it back to the Knits.
WTG.....What great loyality to the BISH country, guys ! :rolleyes:
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Sounds like the 99th (Bish) are wimps for hiding a CV. What's your point?
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Same old CV problem.
Here how it was: nits and rooks controlled all our fields except home island and 38. Nits had 1 our cv hidden, rooks got another our cv and moved it out to hide. We controlled rooks c20. When I logged c20 it was under no command, close to enemy base a28 (north of bishops homeisland) 1 friendly fighter was rolling, someone was in the fleet guns. I turned fleet away to hide it again. When it was already turned out 367s asked to turned it back because they suppressed ord. at the field. Actually if fleet stayed in lvt range it would be a capture for us, but at the moment it was clear fleet was out already and turning it back was to put it under a risk again. I had control of cv and tried to hide it away. I appologize to the people who fought at the base because of denying their fun, and explained why we can't risk c20 for taking fields which is of no threat for us at the moment. 2 267 members switched to nits while one stayed with bishops. They got 2 p38s, flew straight to fleet and sank it.
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I have no idea what this is about, but checking into it :mad:
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WTG 367th! ;)
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Hiding CVs is gamey as heck, switching countries to sink one is even more idiotic.
We are all aviation enthusiasts, why screw the other player?
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Originally posted by DipStick
Sounds like the 99th (Bish) are wimps for hiding a CV. What's your point?
99th wimps? Your funny.
You come by your name honestly. :D
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Cooley hope you can dig to the bottom of this.
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LOL Kev
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LOL Kev
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I had some fun fights taking off from A28 last night(morning)....I wondered why the CV left.Not a single one of us there was even thinking about getting ordinance at another base,we were just fighting.
The Cv left,the fights pretty much stopped,so I logged.
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Originally posted by Delirium
Hiding CVs is gamey as heck, switching countries to sink one is even more idiotic.
We are all aviation enthusiasts, why screw the other player?
I don't like the "Hide the CV" game. I will private com someone on the other side and tell them where they can locate their CV if we're not using it.
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CV hiding is gay
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Girls stop fighting please there are plenty of Barbis for you all to play with. You should all be ashamed of yourselfs hiding Barbis from each other and taking them away from each other. Next thing you know you are going to be fighting over tampons.
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Why do you hide CV?:confused:
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Originally posted by simshell
Why do you hide CV?:confused:
many example's....
but one is when you gettin smacked by both Rooks and Nits.....a CV is considered a front line base....Take it away is like smacking 1 of there front line base....
this rooks/nits hittin bish has been goin on now for awhile....hence hiding the CV
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Some talkes are cyclic at this board. Search forums for "CV hide" and you will find same people saying same words about same problems again and again. Simply saying, if like it or not, fleet hidding is still a game feature, used by all ah countries. Probably HTC have some consideration for not denying this feature for players programmly, which is not hard to do. For example, if port is lost to contry, port controller can get port fleet after 6 hours. Will force players use fleets agressively instead of keeping them far from the action. Fleet may have "counters" showing how long left before it will be sent back to port.
What interesting in this particular case for me is that many players consider exchanging information between sides, or switching sides to "avenge" as being a right thing to do. In my book it is totally beyound a fairplay. It is like being angry on your partners at football field which denies you a pass, and because of that start playing against your own team during the match.
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Originally posted by SLO
many example's....
but one is when you gettin smacked by both Rooks and Nits.....a CV is considered a front line base....Take it away is like smacking 1 of there front line base....
this rooks/nits hittin bish has been goin on now for awhile....hence hiding the CV
i love how every team thinks they are ganged by the other 2 -- probably means play is balanced. However, it seems to me that the rooks are the ones who've been bottled up on home island for days upon days, so I'm not sure what good they'd be as a team opponent agains anyone....
Anyway, CV hiding seems more like porking fuel than jsut denial -- it takes away opportunity to play, both for hider and hidee....
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I was the 1st person on CV20. It was headed NE towards 28. I tried to alter course but was unable to do so which bothered me as no name was showing as to who was in command of it. While waiting for it to get closer to 28, I encountered an enemy CV coming SE. I put it out on country channel but nobody seemed to concerend about CV20 at this point. I proceeded to sink the enemy CV and cruiser and then waited to get in range of 28. began shelling 28 town,, another bishop whos name escapes me upped fromcv and helped at 28. The party grew to about 8/10 of us and were successfull in de-acking town and field, destroying town, ordenance,fuel and proceeded to cap field. We were about to launch LVT's when Commander Gilligan decided that the CV was now in grave danger and needed to be moved ASAP. No cons, no ammo for cons.. none in sight yet its in danger. Id like to know how its in danger at a dead field but not whem an enemy CV is 9,000yds away from it and shooting? Needless to say 28 was never captured. Personally, I dont mind someone moving a CV but at least extend the courtesy of letting people know, especially when it was being used to attack a base. I dont care what Rank anyone is.... yes, rank has its privlages and there well earned but with rank comes respect and courtesy too!
One last note, I myself apologize for any comments I made when the poop began to hit the fan.
Thank you
Sincerely: flkjkt21 367th Dynamite Gang
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flkjkt21 you have nothing to apologize for. Putz.. er.. Fariz is the one who should apologize for spoiling your fun. These 'little hitlers' ruin gameplay and fun for many. Sad really...
And yes hiding the CV is gay.
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Originally posted by DipStick
flkjkt21 you have nothing to apologize for. Putz.. er.. Fariz is the one who should apologize for spoiling your fun. These 'little hitlers' ruin gameplay and fun for many. Sad really...
And yes hiding the CV is gay.
Indeed. Flkjkt is good people. Flew with him quite a bit back in WB.
And yes...hiding the CV just SCREAMS "I like the man-ass"
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However you want to shake it, it appears life went on without the CV...
All we can hope is that everyone learned from this valuable experience, and can grow in their new found AH environment :p
I don't think that beating this dead horse once again is going to get the bish back their rowboat. However, if you could raise the white flag so we could get the maps to rotate, that would be wonderful. Also, getting "ganged" is completely random, I've never seen 2 countries conspire to get the other one... Unless its Pizza Map, and folks are dying for a reset.
P.S. :o <-------- What is this supposed to mean? I've never seen anyone use it... but I could tell you what it looks like the emoticon is doing if I weren't afraid of getting banned for it :D
Have a good one,
--Mike/Howitzer
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Originally posted by capera
99th wimps? Your funny.
Wasn't meant to be funny.
nevermind
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Originally posted by Howitzer
All we can hope is that everyone learned from this valuable experience, and can grow in their new found AH environment :p
--Mike/Howitzer
So, I guess the anger management/conflict resolution classes really worked for ya.......:D
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Originally posted by DipStick
flkjkt21 you have nothing to apologize for. Putz.. er.. Fariz is the one who should apologize for spoiling your fun. These 'little hitlers' ruin gameplay and fun for many. Sad really...
And yes hiding the CV is gay.
Didn't some the 367 changed country to sink the CV ?
that's trully gay.
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Originally posted by Simaril
So, I guess the anger management/conflict resolution classes really worked for ya.......:D
Simrail, the US postal service made me go to them if I wanted to return to work :D
--Howitzer
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Originally posted by Simaril
So, I guess the anger management/conflict resolution classes really worked for ya.......:D
Simrail, the US postal service made me go to them if I wanted to return to work :D
--Howitzer
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Originally posted by Simaril
So, I guess the anger management/conflict resolution classes really worked for ya.......:D
Simrail, the US postal service made me go to them if I wanted to return to work :D
--Howitzer
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Originally posted by Simaril
So, I guess the anger management/conflict resolution classes really worked for ya.......:D
Simrail, the US postal service made me go to them if I wanted to return to work :D
--Howitzer
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Didn't some the 367 changed country to sink the CV ?
that's trully gay.
-----Straffo
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I disagree. Rooks seem to have nearly suicidal CV tendencies, driving the TG's right up to enemy bases -- and while the strategy may be questionable at times, fact is that everyone gets to play.
Hiding the CV prevents play, by attackers and defenders. If that happened in every part of AH, there'd BE no game to play.
After hours upon hours of hiding the TG, the Bish got their chance at game advantage -- if they couldnt reset by then, they should get out of the way. Those bish just let people play the game, which is what we're paying for. The bish "perpetrators" were not stupid, just good AH citizens.
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Originally posted by straffo
Didn't some the 367 changed country to sink the CV ?
that's trully gay.
I dont know.Someone taking the time to level a base to the point of it being ready to take and then someone deciding its time to play hide the CV again,thats kind of gay too.
I recall about 3 years ago when this all started.I was bish,and the bish got it all rolling.Thats who started the hide the cv game.It was gay then and its gay now.Other countries started doing the same and now its just one big childish toy.Use it or lose it I say.I wouldnt swap sides to kill it,but I WOULD post its position to the other side.Let em sink it themselves.Thats no worse in my book than playing hitler and deciding that "I AM GOD.I SHALL DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
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hmmmm ... I've a solution : remove all the CVs (and all that blue planes I can't fly)
:D
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I've been called a traitor, idiot, tard, studmuffin, etc... for reclaiming hidden cv's. I hate CV hiding - I could care less about rank, so it's not possible to yank a cv back into action. If the cv is not moved into action, then I get on the open channel and give coords to whomever it belongs to. Gamey = teh suck.
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The solution to this problem would be loosing your rank when you switch countries, that would put a serious dent in the treachery...
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Originally posted by twitchy
The solution to this problem would be loosing your rank when you switch countries, that would put a serious dent in the treachery...
Boy that would sure deter me. :rolleyes:
Agree 100% with Oct on this one. ;)
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Am 367th and no nothing about side switchers.....as yet!
As for cv hiding it's a 100 % must. You read me right. IT HAS TO BE DONE. Knights hid our (Bish) Cv away last 3 days. Bish hid Rooks cv away also.
The reason it is done is strategiclly very SIMPLE. For those that say it's GAY here's an analogy. You guys are playing Tiddlywinks whilst the rest of us are playing Chess.
I'll try again but on another tact. (They prolly think tiddlywinks is cool :rofl ). You guys that think cv hiding as gay are prolly some guys that show up once or twice a week. You have a "must do it now, can't wait" mentality. I'de suggest you guy's resent not having the ability to park a cv off a base,saving you 5 min, to get into a furball. You also must think " SCREW all the guys on my side" for blabbing about Cv position. These guys should switch country for a month. Half of uou guys can't think beyond "click fly". Bit like chipping your tiddlywink with your counter. "Chip chip"!.:lol
When a debate arrises about captured hidden cv's 85% of that country folk WANT it kept hidden..:aok 15% tiddlywinkers want the cv up there so they don't have to go so far...shame:rolleyes:
The only time I would advocate using a captured CV in an agressive forward position is when the enemy is in full retreator low on numbers +,1 full base behind captured port. If the cv has been hidden 2 or 3 days chances are that cv ain't going to get into the action for 5 or 6 hrs. So whats the point of moving it?
The above should get some comments. If it's a game of tiddlywinks you want to bash me with pls wait mine are 30 yrs behind me:rolleyes:
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Report from the field is in the early hours of July 16, Fox367th and Samnite of the 367th, under BISH command, plotted a course for CV20 and headed it toward a Knit base. This is the CV which we have been hiding from the Knits for a week. They then switched countries to Knights and sunk it with P38's thus giving it back to the Knits
Just noticed something wrong here. CV 20 was a rook cv. It came outta the port by A19. If it was sunk it would have gone to ROOKS. Would suggest you rethink this one.
As for side switchers I ain't seen these chaps to ask the question.
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Lynx, I understand what you're saying, but htere have to be limits. Hiding CV for days upon days stops being chess and starts being unreasonable. When Bish take a Nit base, the Nits know where it is and can work to get it back. When the CV is taken, the benefit of capturing port is denied -- and there's nthing that can be done about it. That takes away from the game.
In basketball, similar strategy wsa used in past -- some teams would get ahead, then jsut pass the ball around teh four corners endlessly. Sound strategy, but imagine watching (or playing) that way for half a game. It was bad for the game, and they adjusted the riules to make it impossible to do.
Hiding the CV isnt chess, its keepaway -- a schoolyard prank used by bullies just because they can
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Originally posted by Octavius
I've been called a traitor, idiot, tard, studmuffin, etc... for reclaiming hidden cv's. I hate CV hiding - I could care less about rank, so it's not possible to yank a cv back into action. If the cv is not moved into action, then I get on the open channel and give coords to whomever it belongs to. Gamey = teh suck.
I'm with you Oct
CV fights are probably the best in the game both launching from them, and defending against them, Why do these guys want to hide them ?
I can't speak for HTC but I would think they put them in the game to be used , not to be hidden away in the corners of the map, seems kind of pointless to me.
But I'm just a simple soul who likes good fights and tiddlywinks I guess.
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You guys actually "plan" this type of thing ??
BRAHAHAHAHAHAH !!
But hey, what ever floats the boat.
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I..
BRUHAHAHAHAAHA !!
..hehe
I'd have a hard time getting dressed in the morning if I was wound that tight.
But then again I weigh four hundred and ninety six pounds..
Loose for me is a way of life..
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Originally posted by Simaril
Hiding the CV isnt chess, its keepaway -- a schoolyard prank used by bullies just because they can
Wow.That says it all.
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Originally posted by LYNX
The reason it is done is strategiclly very SIMPLE. For those that say it's GAY here's an analogy. You guys are playing Tiddlywinks whilst the rest of us are playing Chess.
No. You're playing with yourself while we are trying to have fun playing a game...
CVs are for having fun with / attacking. They are a good way to create (closer fields) furballs.
Do you really think HT modeled the CVs, had the graphics done for the CVs and put the CVs into the game so you could hide them in a corner???
edited...
Now take your chess pieces and go home stratboy.
PS... If you want to play chess, I'll beat.. er.. play you anytime.
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I am the leader of 367th, and wasnt at all pleased to hear what happened, but its been delt with, and i'll leave it at that.
367th makes an effort to exude class with our virtual Allies and Opponents in this game, My apologies to those that were affected by this. By that, I mean the current operation at hand, not weather hiding CV's is good or bad.
Fariz...
I looked at some screenies of your comments on radio channel,
Not the best way to go about it IMO.
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This is yet another reason I can't stand spies in the Game.
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Originally posted by Cooley
I am the leader of 367th, and wasnt at all pleased to hear what happened, but its been delt with, and i'll leave it at that.
367th makes an effort to exude class with our virtual Allies and Opponents in this game, My apologies to those that were affected by this. By that, I mean the current operation at hand, not weather hiding CV's is good or bad.
Fariz...
I looked at some screenies of your comments on radio channel,
Not the best way to go about it IMO.
Those who send screenies has the film. If they send screenies to show some part of the talk, and hide other part of it -- they have something to hide. Ask them a film pls, and then judge it.
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Huh?
Dont really know what ya mean, and ya really need not explain. This ephisode is over with as far as im concerned.
Peace
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Originally posted by Fariz
Those who send screenies has the film. If they send screenies to show some part of the talk, and hide other part of it -- they have something to hide. Ask them a film pls, and then judge it.
It doesn't matter what was said before/after you hijacked the CV. A group of guys were using it to attack, having fun with it and you took it from them because you're an uber rank dood. That ain't cool, get it?
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Originally posted by Cooley
I am the leader of 367th, and wasnt at all pleased to hear what happened, but its been delt with, and i'll leave it at that.
What took place was not the end of the world. The whole topic of this thread was that two BISH members switched teams in order to sink a CV. If hiding a CV is so wrong, then explain why ALL THREE countries practice it. Hide the CV, don't hide the CV. The debate will go on forever as each side has valid points. I think what it comes down to in this case is that loyalty to your country to which you serve under is important. Switching countries to then turn back and attack your "home" country is just not how we should do business, IMHO.
Cooley took this information and as a Commanding Officer, contacted his squad mates and handled the situation. Are the 367th big bad people........nope. It was just a situation where two of their members made a decision that reflected badly on their Squadron and I am sure Cooley briefed them on why this was not cool. Situation handled.
BTW.... Thanks Cooley for taking care of this matter in a timely fashion. :aok
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Originally posted by DipStick
flkjkt21 you have nothing to apologize for. Putz.. er.. Fariz is the one who should apologize for spoiling your fun. These 'little hitlers' ruin gameplay and fun for many. Sad really...
And yes hiding the CV is gay.
Hiding the CV is gay and the ones who do it suck the most butt.
That goes for nits, rooks or bish. I feel like telling where it is on open channel but team loyalty forbids that. so I revert to namecalling instead like a 10 year old brat.
yall hiders are Ghey :lol
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Originally posted by SLO
many example's....
but one is when you gettin smacked by both Rooks and Nits.....a CV is considered a front line base....Take it away is like smacking 1 of there front line base....
this rooks/nits hittin bish has been goin on now for awhile....hence hiding the CV
We already did take it away, effectively giving US a frontline field
It was time to use it. Dont use your rank to hide it. In the instance stated it was a needless power play. The base was ready for capture and that is one of the uses of a "front line field", to enable the capture of another.
The bottom line was that the Bish needed some real estate, and the CV was in place to facilitate the capture. If you cant make the big decisions, step aside for someone who can.
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Originally posted by Fish323
If you cant make the big decisions, step aside for someone who can.
Amen!