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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: twitchy on July 17, 2004, 05:27:27 PM
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I downloaded the "omega drivers" for my video card yesterday, and now when I look up, I get a Frame Rate of 230! and it averages around 100fps, which amazingly is higher than my monitor's maximum refresh rate.
The really cool part of that is that I am only running a 64meg card!!!
I highly reccomend the Omega Drivers!!!
Also I have solved a problem for users of GeForce 4 440 video card users, I was having transparent terrain squares on the sides of mountains... apparently if you are using the GeForce 4 card, you have to have your system display set to 32 bit color, that solved a major problem I was having.
The new patch really seemed to help some of the stuttering also.
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The Omega drivers come with Vsync turned OFF. Make sure you go in and turn it back ON, otherwise you get rubber bullet's out the hooha.
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Twitchy,
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Only problem I have had with AH2 was the invisible terriagn squares. It was driving me nuts. Was trying every combination of tweaks and couldnt fix it.
That simple change from 16 to 32 did it.
Thanks for that bit of info!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Harry1
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where? where where are these drivers and how do i get them
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68,
go to omegacorner.com
youll find it there
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Originally posted by harry1
68,
go to omegacorner.com
youll find it there
question?
ok downloaded new drivers from this site, do i have to uninstall old drivers or is this done automatically?
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Uninstall old drivers yes.
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Originally posted by Estes
Uninstall old drivers yes.
ok now this scares me because i dont want to mess my computer up, you saying uninstall everything in my add/remove that has the wort ATI drivers in it? then reinstall it again from that omega website?
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Yes, go ahead and download the omega drivers. Just don't install them yet.
Then uninstall everything ATI. I would get a registry cleaner that wipes out all the registry keys from ATI too. (Only do that after you uninstall the ATI drivers and such though)
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There is a program out there that will remove all ati drivers. Its called drivercleaner. Worked fine on my end.
Btw I'm also running the omega's & liking them.
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Originally posted by harry1
The Only problem I have had with AH2 was the invisible terriagn squares.
Invisible terrain squares will remain there, IMO these are not driver related.
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yeah i ran system cleaner and it wiped out a bunch of registery keys
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ok i think i screwed my computer up now...
uninstaled everything ati, and installed omega, but now i have no way to change my video settings and i get a message when i log onto ah saying it has to switch to tcp??? what the hell did i do?
i think i uninstalled my video card software along with everything else!!!
someone please help before i freak and reformat my hard drive because its the only way i know how to get things back to where they were
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what it do change your gfx to just 8bit textures? ;)
"nivida, the way its ment to be played"
lol :p
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too late i freaked and reformated!!!!ahhahahahahah
now i get to set up my computer from scratch
JOY:rolleyes:
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almost done.. i swear if i get those tcp messages again ill go ape ****!! im getting ah redrawls here. i didnt have this message until i first downloaded from omega
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The switched to TCP message is from the number 6 down load. NOTHING to worry about..but u did:( .
Carry on as is. The omega drivers work well so long as u install them right. I think u did but part 6 came out same time.
My recommendations are buy a motorcycle and ride it at 100MPH in the rush hour. This will make PC messages half the worry they once were:aok
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ive gotten those TCP messages the last 2 days. I think it might be a server thing. Its just saying its switching to TCP...not UDP. I dont see a problem with that message. I had good connects all day yesterday after seeing it.
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rgr
to little too late for me that is. im still setting up pc after reboot:(
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Whoever told you to uninstall the old drivers first was the one that did you bad!
The omega drivers build on your default drivers set for your video card, they are not a replacement, but an enhancement..
The only way to get a successful install of the omega drivers is to install the set up file, then once you have them installed, go to your device manager, then display adapter tab, right click your video card then click properties, then the driver tab, once you get there, click update driver, then click "have disk" and choose the location where the omega dirvers were installed and proceed. The driver will pop up a warning that the driver is unsigned, ignore this and proceed.
What messed you up 68 was uninstalling your default drivers, this causes the equivilent a nuclear meltdown. Once you get everything installed it should be fine, just make sure you dont fug around with your old drivers, that was a piece of bad advice, the omega drivers are meant to be an enhancement, not a replacement. If you have any questions make sure you follow the directions that come with the Omega drivers to the letter!
The difference it makes is amazing!
Also, in regards to the vsync option, apparently it causes some problems if you change it form what it is set at, I had to reinstall AH2 today (80meg download on a 56k is like dying) as AH2 wouldn't run once I changed the vsync settings, either way I set it. Not sure why though...
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DevilM, Switching to TCP is due to the long load while caching all the textures into system memory. Once you log in and lose TCP, logout, and come back into the arena. Works fine for me. Sucks you had to reformat :)
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thanks Oct
did not know about the relog trick, I will try that tonight
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damn, im still setting up my computer. this suck:(
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I got a question?
When installing the omega drivers do I want to pick quality or performance?
I already had the Omega drivers installed on performance and since beta I had been getting a fps betwwen 50 as a low and 170 as a high. With very minor probs and almost no stutters.
But my computer has done a big flip with patch 6. Now I get alot of stutters like everyone else was complaining about before the patch.
I have tried all different types of settings in the game w/ preloading text. graphic detail settings and all the game has to offer. But now I my fps have slid down to average only around 30 fps:( . And as a High I have only seen it reach 70 fps but that's flying way out over the ocean with no one around.
So I was wondering if I need to change the option to quality or what?:confused:
Or is any one else having thes problem???
My sys is as follows:
Emachines T4510
P4 2.53 ghz
512 ddr
GeForce fx 5200 ultra ( with latest Omega drivers avail )
100 gb hardrive
Win xp home
any help would be appreciated
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I would say stick with the performance set up on the omega drivers as the "quality" set up will not increase frame rates, but resolution. Vsync has alot to do with the outrageous frame rates I was getting on my first install of the omega drivers, If it is off your frame rate should be amazing, if its on, you might see a signifigant drop in frame rate but according to more than a few players you won't end up with "rubber bullets".
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Strange, I always install new Omegas without uninstalling the old stuff, and it works nicely.
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Little stabitlity tip for CTDs using omega drivers ( don't think standrard ones have the option).
Use the "Advanced Smartgart Options" in your programs to turn OFF the AGP Write Option.
All it is is error checking.
Leave the Read option on.
Found this trawling through various BBs.
Used to run vsynch off - 540fps looking straight up!
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Originally posted by twitchy
Whoever told you to uninstall the old drivers first was the one that did you bad!
Interesting... because I always uninstall ATI Driver, Control Panel, and Uninstall Utility in that order. Unplug computer from router and reboot to Safe mode, cancel out of install wizards, run Cab Cleaner, run Driver Cleaner 3, reboot, cancel out install wizards, insatall new Cats or Omegas, plug puter back into router and reboot. ALWAYS works great for me.
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Originally posted by Connection
Strange, I always install new Omegas without uninstalling the old stuff, and it works nicely.
The Omegas contain a version of Driver Cleaner making it unecessary to do it yourself, but the Readme says you may run Driver Cleaner yourself if you like.
DJ229 - AIR MAFIA
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alright im about ready to try omega again but before i do this again let me get it right this time..
system spec's
emachimes t2482
amd atlon xp 1.99ghz
radeon 9200 128mb
756mb ram
80gb harddrive
running on roadrunner
did i leave anything out???
ohh yeah i havent updated my ati drivers yet just installed from software cd.
question is? do i update from ati website or just use omega download???
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Interesting... because I always uninstall ATI Driver, Control Panel, and Uninstall Utility in that order. Unplug computer from router and reboot to Safe mode, cancel out of install wizards, run Cab Cleaner, run Driver Cleaner 3, reboot, cancel out install wizards, insatall new Cats or Omegas, plug puter back into router and reboot. ALWAYS works great for me.
huh?:confused:
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These are basically the Instructions for XP contained in the Dtiver Cleaner Readme. I usually find it very helpful to read and follow the instructions.
QUOTE FROM DC3 README -
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Important Note:
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Make sure step 1 is done, because Windows will go online and download the driver from the Microsoft site.
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Usage for XP / XP SP1 / XPSP2
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ATI:
1. Unplug nic card or modem from net or disconnect
2. Remove ATI driver from add/remove programs then remove the control panel from add/remove programs
3. Reboot into safe mode (F8 during boot up)
4. On reboot into safe mode WinXP SP1/SP2 will auto detect and install drivers. Just let it do its thing. If you can cancel out of the auto install hardware wizard then skip the rest and run Driver Cleaner! If you can NOT cancel out of auto detect wizard then...
5. Navigate to device mgr->display adapter->uninstall and/or remove ATI display adapter but do not reboot
6. Disable any AntiVirus Software (If you don't disable is than it could give trouble)
7. Run Cab Cleaner (not needed, but recommended)
8. Run Driver Cleaner
9. Empty recycle bin and reboot
10. Install the new drivers and control panel
DJ229 AKA Dave
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
These are basically the Instructions for XP contained in the Dtiver Cleaner Readme. I usually find it very helpful to read and follow the instructions.
QUOTE FROM DC3 README -
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Important Note:
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Make sure step 1 is done, because Windows will go online and download the driver from the Microsoft site.
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Usage for XP / XP SP1 / XPSP2
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ATI:
1. Unplug nic card or modem from net or disconnect
4. On reboot into safe mode WinXP SP1/SP2 will auto detect and install drivers. Just let it do its thing. If you can cancel out of the auto install hardware wizard then skip the rest and run Driver Cleaner! If you can NOT cancel out of auto detect wizard then...
5. Navigate to device mgr->display adapter->uninstall and/or remove ATI display adapter but do not reboot
7. Run Cab Cleaner
DJ229 AKA Dave
these items i dont understand, :o but seriously i dont even know if these? cab cleaner? driver cleaner? do these come with my computer or do i have to download then somewhere
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Ghost said "There is a program out there that will remove all ati drivers. Its called drivercleaner. Worked fine on my end."
I thought you had followed his advise and downloaded -
http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/
Actually I guess you called it sytem cleaner
Originally posted by 68DevilM
yeah i ran system cleaner and it wiped out a bunch of registery keys
I entered this discussion to help after Estes correctly told you to uninstall the ATI drivers and twitchy said
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Originally posted by twitchy
Whoever told you to uninstall the old drivers first was the one that did you bad!
You had already started formatting your machine after some problems when I explained my procedures using Driver Cleaner 3.
A lot of peeps like the Omegas just because they are so easy to install with Driver Cleaner embedded in the installer.
Hope this helps.
DJ229
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how much does it cost?
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If you still have any doubt as to whether you should uninstall the old ATI drivers, here are the Installation Instructions from the ATI site-
Installation Instructions:
NOTE: Ensure that you have logged onto the system with Administrative rights if you are using Windows 2000/XP
Uninstall the ATI Display Driver
Restart once prompted. If prompted cancel the installation of the display adapter upon boot up.
Close all other applications running, including any anti-virus software before attempting to install the driver suite.
Windows 2000/XP:
You can confirm that all applications are closed using the Windows Task Manager.
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL once and then click Task Manager. Select the "Applications" tab. If any applications are still listed on this tab, highlight the application and then click the "End Task" button at the bottom of the tab. Repeat this procedure until there are no more applications running.
Windows 98/SE/ME:
Press CTRL+ALT+DEL once. Highlight each application and then click the "End Task" button at the bottom of this window. Repeat this procedure until there are no more applications running except for EXPLORER & SYSTRAY. Do NOT end task on these two applications or your PC will shut down.
Locate the Display Driver download and double-click on it.
Restart once prompted.
Locate the ATI Control Panel (if included) download and double-click on it.
Restart once prompted.
Locate the WDM Capture drivers and double-click on it. - ONLY download if you have an AIW RADEON or RADEON VIVO family product.
Restart once prompted
DJ229
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
how much does it cost?
How does FREE sound? I posted the download link.
http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/
DJ229
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yeah i saw it on your last post thanks checked the site out gonna look again later
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Another thread with driver install instructions -
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123110
DJ229