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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on July 18, 2004, 01:17:18 AM
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Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad.
Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad.
Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.
Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad.
Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad.
Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad.
Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Recession under Bush - bad.
Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad.
Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.
Clinton denounces terrorist training in Afghanistan - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad.
No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found in Iraq - bad.
Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam in custody - bad.
Ah, it's so confusing! :rolleyes:
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Its called a double standard....librals want power and they scream and stomp like a 2 year old kid cause they dont have it. Get used to it.....its America nowadays.
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Reply to double standard.
You are so right,does it seem to anyone that right is becoming wrong and wrong is becomeing right?
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Originally posted by demaw1
Reply to double standard.
You are so right,does it seem to anyone that right is becoming wrong and wrong is becomeing right?
yes nothing matters anymore to the left except beat Bush. to me It looks like they wouldnt mind bringing the entire country down with them if it meant getting kerry elected.....BUT. I just see a CLEAR double standard applied today. If you are conservative or for bush you are immediaitly one of the following:
fascist
nazi
redneck
neocon
warhawk
It doesnt matter what you belive.....pretty sad
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LOL Bodhi...so true.
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I think that post, wherever you got it from, is stoopid.
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One more to add:
Clinton didn't get a UN resolution declaring war on Serbia - Good...
Bush didn't get a UN resolution declaring war on Iraq - Bad.
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Originally posted by Nash
I think that post, wherever you got it from, is stoopid.
Nash, why?
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I can't even get my brain around it...
I wish I was better with language 'cuz I don't even know the terms that would be used to decribe the like, 2 dozen things wrong with what's going on in it.
The entire thing makes no sense to me. But I am not stoopid. Therefore the post is stoopid. :D
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You're gonna hafta disguise this a bit Bodhi if you want any libs to read past the first line. May throw in a Bush is Hitler in bold every now and then. ;)
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Hummmmm that thread isn't biased;)
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Originally posted by J318
Hummmmm that thread isn't biased;)
Everyone older than two is biased. Being biased does not make someone wrong. Some are biased in favor of truth while others favor their agenda over truth.
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so true iron so true,darn that was a good post.
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lol
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Well let me try to help because you are either incredibly ignorant or at the very least misinformed.
Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...Actually not good.
According to the Government Accounting Office (GAO), a February 1997 study showed that a Brown and Root operation in Bosnia estimated at $191.6 million when presented to Congress in 1996 had ballooned to $461.5 million a year later.
All told this former Yugoslavia contract has now cost the taxpayer $2.2 billion over the last several years. Examples of overspending by contractors include flying plywood from the United States to the Balkans at $85.98 a sheet and billing the army to pay its employees' income taxes in Hungary.
A subsequent GAO report, issued September 2000, showed that Brown and Root was still taking advantage of the contract in the Balkans. Army commanders were unable to keep track of the contract because they were typically rotated out of camps after a six-month duration, erasing institutional memory, according to the report. The GAO painted a picture of Brown and Root contract employees sitting idly most of the time. The report also noted that a lot of staff time was spent doing unnecessary tasks, such as cleaning offices four times a day. Pentagon officials were able to identify $72 million in cost savings on the Brown and Root contract simply by eliminating excess power generation equipment that the company had purchased for the operation.
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad. Can you say conflict of interest? Despite Cheney's claim to the contrary, he was paid over $150,000 per year in 2001-3 and is scheduled for payments in 2004 and 2005. He also has $433 grand worth of unexercised stock options in Haliburton now worth over $10 million.
Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...Dunno about "good" but it did stop the genocide going on over there and it was a cooperative NATO operation, not an American invasion.
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad. Heh, probably a lot more than that--this number is not even close to being all-inclusive. Read the paper today about the AQ links in Iran? Oops! Maybe we invaded the wrong country, eh?
Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good... Actually NATO imposed the regime change. Try to get it right.
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad. On our own, without cause, at the cost of thousands of Americans killed and wounded and oh, an additional 10-13,000 Iraqi civilians killed.
Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good... On behalf of Albanian "terrorists"?? Where do you get this stuff? Please provide more info.
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad.At great cost to American lives--We'll see if they actually appreciate it.
Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good... You must be a little kid not to remember this--embarassment over bad intel and restitution paid to China. That was good?
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad. Actually it was Clinton that bombed the terrorist camps.
Clinton commits felonies while in office - good... I have little respect for Clinton but he was never convicted of any felony. Here's a webite you would appreciate: http://members.tripod.com/~GOPcapitalist/clinton-scandals.html
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad. Not bad, just stupid and pretentious--a premature announcement that shows what a poor grip Bush has on what he's gotten us into. No, don't even say he didn't say the war was over--he declared victory in Iraq--read the transcript of the Lincoln speech if you don't believe it. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/01/bush.transcript/
Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good... Actually the bear market started in 2000 and continued til 2003--how did your 401K do? Not even in the top ten of stock market crashes.
Recession under Bush - bad. Yup, bad. Millions of lost jobs, a tax cut and then a useless war. Yup bad.
Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...Again, where do you get this stuff? Clinton ordered OBL killed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1558918.stm
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad. So you would want this to be "good"? What a maroon. Bush did absolutely the right thing in the attack on Afghanistan--few would disagree (well perhaps you would)--it was after that time that the wheels came off.
Clinton denounces terrorist training in Afghanistan - good..."Denounces training"? What does that mean? I find nothing other than Clinton going after OBL--he was the one that lobbed cruise missles in there, remember? http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/20/us.strikes.01/
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad. Why "bad"?
No mass graves found in Serbia - good... Um, they did find several mass graves there.
No WMD found in Iraq - bad. Yup and because that was the stated prime reason we invaded as we were in immediate danger-- it was very bad.
Milosevic not yet convicted - good... How did you come to this conclusion?
Saddam in custody - bad. How do you come to this conclusion? Sounds like you're not only confused but whiney.
Ah, it's so confusing! To you it does seem to be. Try reading.
h
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad.
Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad.
Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.
Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad.
Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad.
Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad.
Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Recession under Bush - bad.
Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - Bad.
Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.
Clinton denounces terrorist training in Afghanistan - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad.
No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found in Iraq - bad.
Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam in custody - bad.
Ah, it's so confusing! :rolleyes:
The problem Bodhi is that you want things to make sense. That approach will never work with women or liberals. Sorry. I co-miserate but that's just the way it is.
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Horn, sorry but I have neither the energy nor the inclination to refute all of your post but this one begs too loudly to be ignored:
"Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad. On our own, without cause, at the cost of thousands of Americans killed and wounded and oh, an additional 10-13,000 Iraqi civilians killed."
It wasn't done on our own or without cause. When you're so far out in left field that you've left the ballpark no one will take you seriously. Come on back in and try to be a little more reasonable?
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The Bad/Good did not refer to the actions themselves, Nash, it refered to the Liberal's acceptance of them.
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Well okay, that helps.
Then it's only factually way out to lunch.
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Come on Nash, you don't make a good "straight guy". You knew the good/bad thing was sarcasm aimed at exposing hypocrisy. Right?
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Originally posted by Lizking
The Bad/Good did not refer to the actions themselves, Nash, it refered to the Liberal's acceptance of them.
bingo...
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Originally posted by Nash
Well okay, that helps.
Then it's only factually way out to lunch.
prove it ;)
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Horn, I expected this from you... you provide nothing other than a lot of what is wrong with this country. ie you make accusations, and attempt to humiliate. You provided links to a few different things to support why it is good or bad, but missed the whole point. Go through and read it again, and with the exception of a couple things, they are right on in the standard liberal view point and reaction... pity you did not see it to begin with.
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Ah man... even read again in this new light, it's still nuts.
It's just an all around bad format. I'm sorry.
The post is stoopid.
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reply to Horn.
come on horn why the name calling,he was only showing the double standard most on the left engage in,kinda tongue in check.You make a couple good points but I could tear apart most of what you said with the simple documented truth.Hello...hello... chaneys not the bad guy here the terrorist are and they are arab and they are muslim.Tell me of a liberal program that didnt cost billions more than said.Its been that way for ever and will not change.It has always been true with few exceptions that the successfull have always been in the forefront of running countries good and bad.Bush was president,responsable for our saftey,because he has a decent idea of good and evil he didnt want another attack on his country during his watch,Iraq was the best country to hit for several reasons.You and people like u had better wake up or some young ******* is going to take your little girl rape her,cut her up, and as she is screaming daddy,daddy slowly cut her head off.This is evil.
Those last sentences were not needed to prove my point,I wrote them to show u and prople like u that u dont have to call others names because of there veiws.But make no mistake I do believe those sentences are true.
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Turn it around.
Lets see....
Bush fails to capture Bin Laden - good.
Anyone got a problem with this?
or is it (ooooh) BAD?
If bad, what does that say?
(beats me).
Wanna expose hypocrasy, fine, but SOB's pet gerbil can come up with better than this.
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dont know where those little asterisk came from I didnt do them but the word was........r..a..g........... ...h..e..a..d.
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Whew! Glad you cleared THAT up...
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gee someone is censoring us....in the context of what I said it wasnt wrong......I dont know maybe we are to far gone.
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Too far gone? Not all of us, at least....
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Those Christian Serbs you lovingly embraced in the original message were slaughtering those muslim 'terrorists' by tens of thousands, but funny how the mere fact that the serbs were Christian is enough to elevate them to martyrdom in your eyes.
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Originally posted by demaw1
dont know where those little asterisk came from I didnt do them but the word was........r..a..g........... ...h..e..a..d.
there in lies the problem in this country. we will continue to think of the arabic world as your quote says, and continue to treat them in a racist manner. Sadly, this behavior is what has started this to be gin with. Will we ever realise that and correct our mistakes?
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Big differance Nash, we are over there trying[look up word trying] Kerry and you would still be begging France and germany for there support..ah same France that is hindering something being done about sudan of course it is frances a rab friends that are killing blacks hypocrasy.......nah
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They oughta make a rule whereby for the next 200 years nobody can have sex with anyone in their own race.
At the end of it, there won't be any different races, and this stupidity will be behind us forever. I know there are a few hot Asian chicks I'd like to tango with.
Problem solved.
WOOHOO Nash for World Leader!
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
BUT. I just see a CLEAR double standard applied today. If you are conservative or for bush you are immediaitly one of the following:
fascist
nazi
redneck
neocon
warhawk
It doesnt matter what you belive.....pretty sad
Hmmm... name calling isn't limited to the left. Plenty on the right that use terms like:
communist
socialist
immoral
tree hugger
dumbacrat
demodorks
brainwashed Micheal Moore monkeyes
ignorant
arrogant
dishonest
hate-monger
etc.
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Bodhi
not in the context it was used.
Bodhi everyone is a bigot to some point even you, but it is not that racism ,or name calling,or anything else is the problem it is the evil in mans heart.The thing is we all of us have to make a choice, me ,you, sandman, nash, capt p,....live or die.... make it or it will be forced upon you.
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That's easy.
Live.
Now what?
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Originally posted by demaw1
Big differance Nash, we are over there trying[look up word trying] Kerry and you would still be begging France and germany for there support..ah same France that is hindering something being done about sudan of course it is frances a rab friends that are killing blacks hypocrasy.......nah
Yep I agree , Sudan need to get ride of french Oil company like Talisman ,Videsh or CNPC.
What about documenting yourself instead of vomiting what your news channel feeded you ?
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OMG, some of you actually believe this little list is true?
1- Find something on the internet.
2- Use the information to built a strong opinion.
3- Flame away.
Who has the strongest opinion, knows the least - French saying.
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Straffo...re document,vomiting
1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.0
1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.0
sorry had to count twice.
Straffo,you are thick headed ,now listen up because i always have to say this.
When someone replys with a snotty reply over normal or near normal debate that someone has been bitten by the truth of the ststement.
I am not going to document most things because I dont want to take the time and most important there is a thing called common sense.
Vomiting,the context you use this word in means anything someone says ,me ,you anyone,would be considered vomiting.Sorry u feel that way about what u say.
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I can use "regurgitating" if you prefer.
I'm just astonished because you show IMO (but it's up to you to proove I'm wrong) a lack of "esprit critique"/critical spirit.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yes nothing matters anymore to the left except beat Bush. to me It looks like they wouldnt mind bringing the entire country down with them if it meant getting kerry elected.....BUT. I just see a CLEAR double standard applied today. If you are conservative or for bush you are immediaitly one of the following:
fascist
nazi
redneck
neocon
warhawk
It doesnt matter what you belive.....pretty sad
I get called a gunfreak. All I own is an HK USP .45ACP and a SigSauer 30-06. I laugh it off, but it is starting to get annoying.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Sandman
brainwashed Micheal Moore monkeyes
one of my personal favorites :aok
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
one of my personal favorites :aok
Nazi.
;):aok
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Who has the strongest opinion, knows the least - French saying.
If that's true, Kerry must be Einstein and Plato rolled into one, big, ugly burrito of wisdom.
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Bodhi, are you trying to day that Bush was as bad as Clinton, or that Clinton was as good as Bush?
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Nash's first impression was right.
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Good post Horn!:aok
eh...;)
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nash... just curious... who told you that you weren't "stoopid"? Perhaps it is a conclussion that you and your mom came up with?
lazs
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Originally posted by demaw1
.It has always been true with few exceptions .
That's never the case except for a few times.
:rofl
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Lazs, why don't you just get it over with and ask me for a date.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I get called a gunfreak. All I own is an HK USP .45ACP and a SigSauer 30-06. I laugh it off, but it is starting to get annoying.
Karaya
Righties have feelings?
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Originally posted by Nash
They oughta make a rule whereby for the next 200 years nobody can have sex with anyone in their own race.
At the end of it, there won't be any different races, and this stupidity will be behind us forever. I know there are a few hot Asian chicks I'd like to tango with.
Problem solved.
WOOHOO Nash for World Leader!
Did someone say asian chicks!?
You have my vote, good sir.
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Originally posted by Nash
They oughta make a rule whereby for the next 200 years nobody can have sex with anyone in their own race.
At the end of it, there won't be any different races, and this stupidity will be behind us forever. I know there are a few hot Asian chicks I'd like to tango with.
Problem solved.
WOOHOO Nash for World Leader!
I'm moving to Canada you unhinged head farting wierdo's. Hot asian chicks are always a good thing and I would like to sign up and do my part under your regime!
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Ya... Im with Nash! Send me a collection point bro! lol