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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on July 18, 2004, 03:47:57 PM
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Damn! Built for speed. 496 c.i. big block. He's had it up to 70, but he's still in the break in period.
(http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/Matts_Boat.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/Matts_boat_2.jpg)
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Not my kind of boating but i bet it would have been fun to try it :)
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nice the little girl shows it's big
:)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Not my kind of boating but i bet it would have been fun to try it :)
My feelings exactly. However I do get to try it. :p
notice the interior has alot of "Oh CHIT!" handles.
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yea but the real question is:
How many cup holders does it have.
You can never have too many of them.....they are the basis for what is good and what is crap.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yea but the real question is:
How many cup holders does it have.
You can never have too many of them.....they are the basis for what is good and what is crap.
Only 2 and believe me I took notice of that right away! ;)
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I grew up in a family of no guns and knives. I have guns. I am now looking at a 1996 Wellcraft Excel 21' 210C. Fridge , stove the works. Just a Volvo 4.3L Mercruiser. $13,300. Might be able to talk him to $12,000.
Karaya
PS - That's a nice damn boat your neighbor has.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
My feelings exactly. However I do get to try it. :p
notice the interior has alot of "Oh CHIT!" handles.
Get someone to take a pic while you hang on to the wheel trying desperatly not to fly out of it. :D
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He'll sail it 10 times the first year, 5 the second and twice in the third. Then he'll sell it.....
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POS gas hog
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Originally posted by Otto
He'll sail it 10 times the first year, 5 the second and twice in the third. Then he'll sell it.....
They traded their 1992 21 ft. open bow Maxim in for this one. We live just across the street from Lake Tapps, and his parents live on Snag island. They actually use their boat alot more than we use ours, (we get ours out about a dozen times a year)
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Originally posted by X2Lee
POS gas hog
Gas hog, yes, POS, uhhh, study your hulls, this is in the class of Sea Rays...$$$
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Gas hog, yes, POS, uhhh, study your hulls, this is in the class of Sea Rays...$$$
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Just my opinion, still is.
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Real boats have a mast. ;)
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Real boats have a mast. ;)
Bingo!
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notice the interior has alot of "Oh CHIT!" handles
Arn't those called "chicken bars"?
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yep, motors are for no0bs.
Can't stand motor boats. Usually has to do with the IQs of the operators.
:)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Gas hog, yes, POS, uhhh, study your hulls, this is in the class of Sea Rays...$$$
How much does one of these cost new?
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Drug boat. Good for going fast in heavy seas, which somewhat defeats the purpose of a pleasure boat. That is a nice specimen of the genre, though, and makes Sea Rays look like the posers they are.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
How much does one of these cost new?
Easily 250K
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Now all you need is some open sea and waves and you really can enjoy the summer.
Couple weeks ago I found a rock at 35knots in a place which was supposed to be clear of traps. Took several hours to get back to harbour from the sea with tiny auxiliary engine...
Thank god I had plenty of speed so hull was intact; only prop and driveunit were more or less totalled...
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Originally posted by snapperhead
Easily 250K
How come these are so much cheaper?
34' powerboat (http://www.superboatonline.com/34.html)
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So sailboats are the boats to end all boats?
Sure. ROTFLMMFAO
Karaya
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Hull price of 88,000. How do you figure it is cheaper? Unless you do not need things like engines, inner-liner-you know, the small details.
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Originally posted by Capt. Pork
How come these are so much cheaper?
34' powerboat (http://www.superboatonline.com/34.html)
Engines and drive units cost money too. Also some just are more expensive due the equipments already installed in factories; some are sold as "turn key" with fully equipped pentry, toilet and with radio/TV/VCR equipments while in some you need to do it yourself.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Hull price of 88,000. How do you figure it is cheaper? Unless you do not need things like engines, inner-liner-you know, the small details.
I see. So all that stuff will run another 160,000 or so bucks? Also take into account that the boat Ripsnort showed didn't look to be 34 feet long.
I hardly anything about boats, except for the fact that nice new ones cost ****loads. $250,000 just seemed a bit high to me, that's all.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
So sailboats are the boats to end all boats?
Sure. ROTFLMMFAO
Karaya
yes dweeb
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Necktacular
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Originally posted by X2Lee
yes dweeb
:rofl
Karaya
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250k is a bit too much; with that amount of money you'd get a real cruiser like This (http://www.matarol.com/gulfcraft/38sindbad.shtml).
This (http://www.matarol.com/gulfcraft/36ambassador.shtml) would cost about half of it, 126000€ with twin Volvos.
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A quarter of a million dollars is a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a boat like that imho.
Yeah... if it was a sailboat, I could see it.
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You know the person is mostly concerned about image when the trailer has sport wheels and decals.
J_A_B
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Now this (http://www.matarol.com/gulfcraft/118millennium.shtml), I like
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Originally posted by Lizking
Hull price of 88,000. How do you figure it is cheaper? Unless you do not need things like engines, inner-liner-you know, the small details.
The 3 year old Evinrude 150HP engines on my father in laws boat run 10K a piece. My 250k estimate was a tad high brand new its about 160-190k
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Well if I'd sell my apartment and car I could buy This one (http://www.matarol.com/gulfcraft/38sindbad.shtml).
Anyways Rip's neighbours boat looks nice for calm waters in nearby lake but I wouldn't like to be in that one in rough sea :)
Also gasoline V-8 is something I don't like in boats.
Diesels, thought more expensive, are more reliable, diesel-fuel is less flammable, fuel economy is much better and diesel is also cheaper (thought engines cost more, 200hp ~30k €, same power gasoline ~15k€).
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Originally posted by Lizking
Hull price of 88,000. How do you figure it is cheaper? Unless you do not need things like engines, inner-liner-you know, the small details.
Capt. Pork enjoys paddling.
Karaya
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(http://www.seahuntboats.com/images/homeCenter4.jpg)
Now we're talking! :aok
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(http://www.ibizaboats.no/bilder/nedlasting/19sport_strand.jpg)
(http://www.ibizaboats.no/bilder/nedlasting/19sport_brygge2.jpg)
:aok
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no heli deck ???
:eek: :confused: :confused:
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This from "Matt"
The retail from the dealer was $109k on this boat, but boats this size the dealers are usually willing to negoiate 15-30% in price.
I think he said he ended up paying $80k for it.
Oh, and "Matt" is 31, works as a SA for Weyerhauser. (Though he's a contractor, so no benefits, but lots of bucks)
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How did they let trash like you into that upperclass neihbourhood Rip?
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My dad and I built a 12' sailboat with mahogany ribbing and a glass over plywood hull when I was 12-13 years old. It was heavy and slow and you got wet in a heavy wind. That was the most fun I ever had in a boat.
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Are boats in US using diesels at all? I know the gasoline is quite cheap in there but IMHO the diesel has so many benefits over gasoline engines that in a boat like Rip's neighbour has the twin Volvo Turbodiesels with DuoProps would be quite nice combination.
Heh the range itself would be 2-3 times better than with that 500cid gasoline engine but guess that boat is not intended for longer cruises at open seas with that open flight-deck
:)
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Originally posted by Staga
Are boats in US using diesels at all? I know the gasoline is quite cheap in there but IMHO the diesel has so many benefits over gasoline engines that in a boat like Rip's neighbour has the twin Volvo Turbodiesels with DuoProps would be quite nice combination.
Heh the range itself would be 2-3 times better than with that 500cid gasoline engine but guess that boat is not intended for longer cruises at open seas with that open flight-deck
:)
The real pilots prefer diesel as a backup for the wind :)
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Midnight, sounds like fun! Lifetime of memories as well I see. :) My dad's first "new" boat that he purchased in 1957 was a woody, Larson All-American (I hadn't been born yet). Ironically, years later in 1992 the first boat I bought "new" was a Larson All-American! Strange, isn't it?
Staga, most boats this size come with a variation of powerplants you can order.
Dealers will create their allotments with what they think will sell.
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small girl make boat look bigger than they appear.
<= back to work ... need badly some day off...:)
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Originally posted by Maniac
How did they let trash like you into that upperclass neihbourhood Rip?
Maybe you should do some self-analysis on that question Maniac?
It is this feature that intellectuals--especially in Europe--find embittering. They know they must genuflect to democracy as a system. They cannot openly admit that an entire people--especially one comprising nearly 300 million, who enjoy all the freedoms--can be mistaken. But in their hearts these intellectuals do not accept the principle of one person, one vote. They scornfully, if privately, reject the notion that a farmer in Kansas, a miner in Pennsylvania or an auto assembler in Michigan can carry as much social and moral weight as they do. In fact, they have a special derogatory word for anyone who acts on this assumption: "populist." A populist is someone who accepts the people's verdict, even--and especially--when it runs counter to the intellectual consensus (as with capital punishment, for example). In the jargon of intellectual persiflage, populism is almost as bad as fascism--indeed, it's a step toward it.
Source:http://www.forbes.com/global/2003/0721/017_print.html (Thanks Badger)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
This from "Matt"
I think he said he ended up paying $80k for it.
Quite reasonable price; couple 300hp Volvo Turbodiesels with DP-driveunits costs about the same. Nice boat anyways; I'd love to get my hands on it even if I've been a bit unlucky with boats lately :D
(Good overview to engine costs here in Finland; guess they're about the same all over the globe. Link (http://www.venepori.fi/volvopen.htm#Diesel%20Aquamatic%20130%20-%20310hv).
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It is this feature that intellectuals--especially in Europe--find embittering. They know they must genuflect to democracy as a system. They cannot openly admit that an entire people--especially one comprising nearly 300 million, who enjoy all the freedoms--can be mistaken. But in their hearts these intellectuals do not accept the principle of one person, one vote. They scornfully, if privately, reject the notion that a farmer in Kansas, a miner in Pennsylvania or an auto assembler in Michigan can carry as much social and moral weight as they do. In fact, they have a special derogatory word for anyone who acts on this assumption: "populist." A populist is someone who accepts the people's verdict, even--and especially--when it runs counter to the intellectual consensus (as with capital punishment, for example). In the jargon of intellectual persiflage, populism is almost as bad as fascism--indeed, it's a step toward it.
I thing he is abusing a false cognate ,populism in France (and perhaps Europe) is not the same as in his example if the word is similar the definition is different.
A populist use a anti-elite rhetoric and just pretend to be the leader of the people for the own good of the people (he is wise because having popular support ...).
A populist negate of the minority and use the vox populi for is own objectives not for the citizen that elected him.
Populism is just another attack on democratie.
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Originally posted by Staga
Quite reasonable price; couple 300hp Volvo Turbodiesels with DP-driveunits costs about the same. Nice boat anyways; I'd love to get my hands on it even if I've been a bit unlucky with boats lately :D
(Good overview to engine costs here in Finland; guess they're about the same all over the globe. Link (http://www.venepori.fi/volvopen.htm#Diesel%20Aquamatic%20130%20-%20310hv).
Staga, of the 3 boats I've owned in my lifetime, the BEST outdrive was the Volvo Penta Dual-prop. That freaking outdrive was a beast! No cavitation, quick acceleration, I'll buy another when I return to a bigger boat someday, and it will have a diesel engine too. This VP outdrive was teamed with a Chevy 4.3 liter V-6, however it still managed 48 mph.
I like going slow enough to catch fish so HP is of no concern, but I do like to have spare ponies if I need them.
Oh, and diesel boat engines cost damn near twice the money than gas engines. :(
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Originally posted by J_A_B
You know the person is mostly concerned about image when the trailer has sport wheels and decals.
J_A_B
Only 2 reasons to buy a boat like that.
Overdeveloped ego or underdeveloped man bits.
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I spoke at great length with Matt about his purchase, I'm always curious as why someone needs that much flash...he's always loved big fast boats, something he said he's wanted his whole life and he and his wife head up to the San Juan Islands at least a couple times a year. They can do it in about 1 hour now with this boat. They have daughters, so he doesn't really want a fishing boat as none in his family are really interested in fishing. They just like cruising around.
In defense of Matt, he's got no atrocious ego, he's happily married with two kids, and he claims it was his wifes idea to make this purchase since its really his "dream boat" (Ya ya, blame it on the wife! :lol )
Different boats for different folks.
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Well if you want to enjoy the speed you really have to do it in either air or over water and boats are still cheaper than aircrafts. Of course there's exceptions to this rule...
Personally I like to spend hours in the sea and also make longer trips even in rough weather (it hurts your kidneys and back but it's just so fun...) so boat like Rip's neighbour has wouldn't be the best option for me.
Each his own; Some like mother and some like the daughter.
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For some reason ive always found Mercruiser engines more reliable then Volvo Pentas. maybe ive just been unlucky with them.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
For some reason ive always found Mercruiser engines more reliable then Volvo Pentas. maybe ive just been unlucky with them.
Both have come along way in quality over the years. The Volvo Penta duel prop is quite a bit more expensive than its Mercruiser counter part, but that may be because its not made in the US.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Drug boat. Good for going fast in heavy seas, which somewhat defeats the purpose of a pleasure boat. That is a nice specimen of the genre, though, and makes Sea Rays look like the posers they are.
I'm a 35 year boater and my present boat, a 1997 19 foot Sea Ray, has a better finish, more storage and thicker Glass than just about any boat out there.
In fact Sea Rays were honored as being among the ten best products manufactured in America. We put a wakeboard tower on ours, fat sacks to add 1500 pounds af ballast and the Chevy 350 still has enough torque to pull my fat butt out of the water.
We're out every weekend and two or three evenings a week (live five miles from the launch ramp) and, for what we use our boat for, I wouldn't trade it for anything but another Sea Ray.
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Originally posted by Airhead
I'm a 35 year boater and my present boat, a 1997 19 foot Sea Ray, has a better finish, more storage and thicker Glass than just about any boat out there.
In fact Sea Rays were honored as being among the ten best products manufactured in America. We put a wakeboard tower on ours, fat sacks to add 1500 pounds af ballast and the Chevy 350 still has enough torque to pull my fat butt out of the water.
We're out every weekend and two or three evenings a week (live five miles from the launch ramp) and, for what we use our boat for, I wouldn't trade it for anything but another Sea Ray.
What are "Fat sacks" ? I need alittle ballast in my bow, and have a nice hidden compartment up in the cuddy (storage compartment) where I could add some weight, but I've yet to decide what to add up there for weight, I need something relatively small but heavy.
Are fat sacks like shot peen sewn into bags?
Edit: Found this on the web
http://www.boardstop.com/product_info.php?cPath=59_61&products_id=414&osCsid=dd327972e18e776b3d636af1b1201eb2
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Originally posted by AKWeav
notice the interior has alot of "Oh CHIT!" handles
Arn't those called "chicken bars"?
Or Jesus handles.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
What are "Fat sacks" ? I need alittle ballast in my bow, and have a nice hidden compartment up in the cuddy (storage compartment) where I could add some weight, but I've yet to decide what to add up there for weight, I need something relatively small but heavy.
Are fat sacks like shot peen sewn into bags?
Edit: Found this on the web
http://www.boardstop.com/product_info.php?cPath=59_61&products_id=414&osCsid=dd327972e18e776b3d636af1b1201eb2
You could get the kind of lead that divers use alround their waste. takes up minimal space but heavy and easy to move aorund to find a good balance. If you need alot then i think it would be to expencive th.
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I need about 150 lbs. of ballast in the front to make it just right. I have a trimmable outboard, but it takes full trim down for the hole shot, or the passengers to move forward in the boat to prevent alot of bow rise for an extended length.
I ordered a Sting Ray in leiu of going big bucks for alternative..trim tabs ($49 vs $500) so I'll see how well the Stingray does. This may or may not help my severe bow rise problem.
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Get an anchor and chain and put it in the rope locker, Rip, then you can use the weight when you need it.
Airhead, don't get your panties in a wad. Fountains were developed as racing boats; Sea-rays are not, although they use many of the design cues. That is what I meant by poser.
Oh, and I am a 43 year boater, at one time professionally, now just for pleasure and even quite a bit of blow-boating.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Get an anchor and chain and put it in the rope locker, Rip, then you can use the weight when you need it.
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ALready done. I have a 20 lb. anchor and about 10 pounds of chain. I need something more.
This boat (Campion 542, 20 ft. 3") only weighs 1690 dry. I have the biggest outboard you can put on it legally, so theres alot of weight in the back with the additional trolling motor combined with the main outboard....
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Heh...my cash blackhole.1993 Mastercraft Prostar 205.
The pics are the same year as mine,but mine's dark blue.
(http://www.metroplexskiclub.com/pics/txriverrat.jpg)
(http://www.metroplexskiclub.com/Texas%20River%20Rat.jpg)
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Is it very common in the US to bring the boat to and from the water on trailors, and have them at home when you dont use them?.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Is it very common in the US to bring the boat to and from the water on trailors, and have them at home when you dont use them?.
Depends where you live. In Minnesota, there are a lot of lakes, many people have waterfront homes, and subsequent docks.
Here in the PNW, not many lakes, and a house on a lake near Seattle will run you $1,000,000+. Moorage is an option but its not cheap either...$200 to 500 a month in Tacoma, depending on the slip size.
If you like to fish various lakes, yes, trailering is quite common for sports fishermen.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
What are "Fat sacks" ? I need alittle ballast in my bow, and have a nice hidden compartment up in the cuddy (storage compartment) where I could add some weight, but I've yet to decide what to add up there for weight, I need something relatively small but heavy.
Are fat sacks like shot peen sewn into bags?
Edit: Found this on the web
http://www.boardstop.com/product_info.php?cPath=59_61&products_id=414&osCsid=dd327972e18e776b3d636af1b1201eb2
That's them Rip. I have two under my bow seats and one in the ski locker. It takes about twenty minutes to fill them and drain them, but it makes the boat sit so much lower in the water and handle differently I wouldn't want a permanent ballast.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Is it very common in the US to bring the boat to and from the water on trailors, and have them at home when you dont use them?.
It all depends.
Here in Ohio dockspace is very limited.You have to get in a lottery for a slip where I boat,and when you get one,it's good for five years.
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Originally posted by Sox62
Heh...my cash blackhole.1993 Mastercraft Prostar 205.
The pics are the same year as mine,but mine's dark blue.
Sweet boat, Sox. Any plans for putting a tower on it? I bought a Monster Tower a month ago and they make a great tower for about a grand- I'm happy with mine and can recomend them.
Check out MonsterTower.Com for pics.
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Ok. that would explain a thing or 2 about the american boats we can buy here. They are so fundamentaly different from the boats being buildt in scandinavia. :)
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Originally posted by Airhead
Sweet boat, Sox. Any plans for putting a tower on it? I bought a Monster Tower a month ago and they make a great tower for about a grand- I'm happy with mine and can recomend them.
Check out MonsterTower.Com for pics.
I love Overtons, have you checked out products on their website? In some cases they're sell products cheaper than anywhere else I've found on the net.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Ok. that would explain a thing or 2 about the american boats we can buy here. They are so fundamentaly different from the boats being buildt in scandinavia. :)
Boating in the US is broke down into several catagories and I am sure I missed a few:
Water sports
Fishing
Pleasure cruising
Sailboating
Offshore power boating
list goes on...I would say a majority of 21 ft. or UNDER are usually trailered.
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I like the south Florida solution: They rack em and stack em in a warehouse, then you call ahead a day and they have it washed, fueld and sitting in a slip when you get there. When you are done, they wash it and fork it back into the rack.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Sweet boat, Sox. Any plans for putting a tower on it? I bought a Monster Tower a month ago and they make a great tower for about a grand- I'm happy with mine and can recomend them.
Check out MonsterTower.Com for pics.
Thanks Airhead.I mainly slalom,so no tower.
The last couple of years I haven't been able to do much boating.I'm hoping to get back into the swing of things next summer.
A quick question though;does anyone know of a place the sells(ships)custom boat covers at a reasonable price?
I've ordered them through Overton's before,but the fit was less than perfect,lol.
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Yeah i guess thats the same here to Ripsnort i just havent broken them down before
We basicly have these groups
Big boats that people spend their weekends and holidays on. usually Sailboats or cabincruisers from 33 feet and up to whatever your wallet can handle
Hobby fishing. From small dingys up to fairly large open boats with twin outboards
But by far the biggest group is those that has a boat mored at their summerhouse by the sea or in a marina close by. Those people (me included) use them for anything from waterskiing, shopping, fishing and for going to visit nearby summerhouses/cabins to meet freinds. etc etc. The most popular boats look like those that i posted earlyer in this thread. The dont have carpets and usually has very deep V bottom hulls to handle well in rough/choppy seas without "jumping" on waves to much and they have teak "decks".
There are 3 brands of american boats that are successful here. Its the 18-22 foot Bayliners and Sea Rays with the open bow solution that are popular on inland lakes (not in the ocean) and Boston Whalers for the use i mentioned above.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I need about 150 lbs. of ballast in the front to make it just right. I have a trimmable outboard, but it takes full trim down for the hole shot, or the passengers to move forward in the boat to prevent alot of bow rise for an extended length.
I ordered a Sting Ray in leiu of going big bucks for alternative..trim tabs ($49 vs $500) so I'll see how well the Stingray does. This may or may not help my severe bow rise problem.
one sq. ft. of water wieghs 64 pounds. Its the best ballast imo
you can empty it at the lake and not trailor it home.
My boat has 800 lbs of ballast already but if I desired more it would be water weight...
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yeah i guess thats the same here to Ripsnort i just havent broken them down before
We basicly have these groups
Big boats that people spend their weekends and holidays on. usually Sailboats or cabincruisers from 33 feet and up to whatever your wallet can handle
Hobby fishing. From small dingys up to fairly large open boats with twin outboards
But by far the biggest group is those that has a boat mored at their summerhouse by the sea or in a marina close by. Those people (me included) use them for anything from waterskiing, shopping, fishing and for going to visit nearby summerhouses/cabins to meet freinds. etc etc. The most popular boats look like those that i posted earlyer in this thread. The dont have carpets and usually has very deep V bottom hulls to handle well in rough/choppy seas without "jumping" on waves to much and they have teak "decks".
There are 3 brands of american boats that are successful here. Its the 18-22 foot Bayliners and Sea Rays with the open bow solution that are popular on inland lakes (not in the ocean) and Boston Whalers for the use i mentioned above.
Bayliners are a dime a dozen here...fairly cheap boat, but the quality is about avg.
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Originally posted by rpm371
Only 2 reasons to buy a boat like that.
Overdeveloped ego or underdeveloped man bits.
Or making those late-night smuggling runs.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yea but the real question is:
How many cup holders does it have.
You can never have too many of them.....they are the basis for what is good and what is crap.
First thing I always look for. :D
I have a 21 ft. pontoon boat. It has a table up front that has 4 cup holders. There are 2 cup holders, one on each side of the console and 2 in the rear, one on each side of the bench seat. ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Bayliners are a dime a dozen here...fairly cheap boat, but the quality is about avg.
They are cheap'ish here to. The reason they are popular on lakes is the same reason that they are unpopular on by the ocean. They tend to have fairly flat bottoms and that makes them faster with a moderate powerplant but not as good on choppy seas. Carpets are also a bad idea when they lie unatended for long periods on the ocean with all the weather (and seagulls) we _can_ get here. Carpets are however not a problem for those that use them on the lakes cause they often have them on trailers and only take them out on good days for waterskiing etc.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
They are cheap'ish here to. The reason they are popular on lakes is the same reason that they are unpopular on by the ocean. They tend to have fairly flat bottoms and that makes them faster with a moderate powerplant but not as good on choppy seas. Carpets are also a bad idea when they lie unatended for long periods on the ocean with all the weather (and seagulls) we _can_ get here. Carpets are however not a problem for those that use them on the lakes cause they often have them on trailers and only take them out on good days for waterskiing etc.
Agreed, over 21 ft are used for the oceans here though usually.... Nowadays most boat manufacturers like Bayliner make snap-in carpet. You can take it out if you go on the ocean.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
one sq. ft. of water wieghs 64 pounds. Its the best ballast imo
you can empty it at the lake and not trailor it home.
My boat has 800 lbs of ballast already but if I desired more it would be water weight...
Makes sense to me. Looks like I may go this route if the Sting Ray hydrofoil doesn't help.
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The Sting Ray will help a lot. It will also eliminate any porpoising you might have.
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Sting ray? Is that those "foils" you mount on the drive at about the height of the prop?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Sting ray? Is that those "foils" you mount on the drive at about the height of the prop?
Yep.
(http://images.shipstore.com/ss/images/ATT/ATT94007.JPG)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Sting ray? Is that those "foils" you mount on the drive at about the height of the prop?
They mount on the cavitation plate, right above the prop.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Sting ray? Is that those "foils" you mount on the drive at about the height of the prop?
They mount on the cavitation plate, right above the prop.
(http://a1460.g.akamai.net/f/1460/1339/6h/www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/01/57/24/i015724sq01.jpg)
I don't expect much improvement, but it was worth $50 to find out.
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Rip could you email please
skjunkmail@gmail.com
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Done, snapper.
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Yup ripsnort.....we get those here to. havent tried them tho.
Ever think about getting hydraulic trimplanes or wont that fit?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yup ripsnort.....we get those here to. havent tried them tho.
Ever think about getting hydraulic trimplanes or wont that fit?
I've got space for 9" X 12" hydrolics on both sides, but that route is expensive ($500+, more for Bennett tabs..) and there is other equipment I really need first before I have that luxury item for my boat. Its on my "Want" list, but not currently on my "Need" list.
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What kind of boat do you have?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
What kind of boat do you have?
Campion 542, 20 ft .3in. LOA with a pair of Suzuki outboards. Dry weight is 1690 (Extremely light for a 20 footer.)
pic:
http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/boat2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/boat4.jpg
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Looks nice from behind.....got any full frontal or profile shots?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Looks nice from behind.....got any full frontal or profile shots?
Yeah, check the thread above, I fixed the 2nd pic...
ty.
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Interior (no carpet! ;) )
http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/Campion.jpg
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Practical interior. We get that brand here to btw.
Can you get teak on the floor in it?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Practical interior. We get that brand here to btw.
Can you get teak on the floor in it?
Neg, textured fiberglass. Its nice with the raw water washdown pump. Fish blood? No problem....
Teak wasn't an option. Only flooring option avail was snap in carpeting.(Been there, done that, no thanks..)
Are you purposely trying to keep away from the political threads today? ;) J/K..I love boat subjects. :)
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Hehehe, think its great to talk about other things than politics......its been enough of that here to last me a lifetime. Boating has been my life since my baby steps so its one of my favorite subjects.
I can easily understand why you dont want teak if you use the boat alot for fishing.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Hehehe, think its great to talk about other things than politics......its been enough of that here to last me a lifetime. Boating has been my life since my baby steps so its one of my favorite subjects.
I can easily understand why you dont want teak if you use the boat alot for fishing.
Do you have a boat, or access to one? Tell me about it. I'm just running scripts today and copy/pasting the results in Excel. :p
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They don't use teak on those type boats for three reasons. Weight, expense and maintenance. Now on MY type boats, they are full of it, inside and out. I hate teak, but it is very durable, non-skid when wet and pretty when maintained correctly.
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That boat is a chick magnate.
I think your neighboors are swingers.;)
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Originally posted by Curval
That boat is a chick magnate.
I think your neighboors are swingers.;)
Just my luck! "Jane" won't even let Cheeta out of the house these days!"
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dude... cheeta was the chimp.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
dude... cheeta was the chimp.
Dude, I'm saying my wife won't let even my pet out of the house..including me.
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gotcha.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
gotcha.
I've always sucked at humor. :)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Do you have a boat, or access to one? Tell me about it. I'm just running scripts today and copy/pasting the results in Excel. :p
Are you copy/pasting??.....no, that cant be! :D
Atm i have 2 small boats. The one by our pier i use set and retrive nets. The Other one on the water i use for waterskiing and shopping etc etc. I also have a Kayack and a cano that you can see on the last pic.
I also have access to my inlaws 40 foot sailboat that i can see if i can find some pics of.
(http://www.alpinsiden.com/jostein/1.jpg)
(http://www.alpinsiden.com/jostein/2.jpg)
(http://www.alpinsiden.com/jostein/3.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Are you copy/pasting??.....no, that cant be! :D
Atm i have 2 small boats. The one by our pier i use set and retrive nets. The Other one on the water i use for waterskiing and shopping etc etc. I also have a Kayack and a cano that you can see on the last pic.
I also have access to my inlaws 40 foot sailboat that i can see if i can find some pics of.
Very nice!
How much would that house on the lake go for in your country? Just looking at that, around here, would fetch about $500,000 on the lake here across the street.
I have a canoe for duck hunting, we float small streams, front guy is shotgun, stern steers with the drift. Lots of fun.
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Its not on a lake, We live at the end of a fjord. You are prolly not far off on the price tho. The property used to have a small cottage on it and it has been in my gf's family for a long time so it didnt cost us anything. We buildt the house for abit less than 100k tho so if we decide to sell it will give us a nice profit.
-edit- the fjords outlet is somewhere out there to the right.
(http://www.alpinsiden.com/jostein/4.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Its not on a lake, We live at the end of a fjord. You are prolly not far off on the price tho. The property used to have a small cottage on it and it has been in my gf's family for a long time so it didnt cost us anything. We buildt the house for abit less than 100k tho so if we decide to sell it will give us a nice profit.
Thats your house!? You dog! Very nice! :aok
I have a Fjord F250 :D
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Real boats have a mast. ;)
Ohh man its been years since I've been sailing.
Easily my favorite kind of boating
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thats your house!? You dog! Very nice! :aok
I have a Fjord F250 :D
Thx
Fjord F250........LOL :D
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Ohh man its been years since I've been sailing.
Easily my favorite kind of boating
Amen!
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Yeah, Sailboats are quite compared to Cruisers, well until you moore beside a few hundred and nighly off shore breeze comes in, clang......clang...cling..cli ng clang.... STFU, where's me knife.
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Lol Torque. If you are used to it you will fall asleep by that "noise"
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At 80's we used to play with Fjord 27 :)
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Originally posted by Torque
Yeah, Sailboats are quite compared to Cruisers, well until you moore beside a few hundred and nighly off shore breeze comes in, clang......clang...cling..cli ng clang.... STFU, where's me knife.
Thats just payback bud for all that damned smoke and noise and wake yall try to shove up our butts!
The audacity!
And now, a 215 HP seadoo? wth? :(
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Are you copy/pasting??.....no, that cant be! :D
Atm i have 2 small boats. The one by our pier i use set and retrive nets. The Other one on the water i use for waterskiing and shopping etc etc.
Nice place you have there. The grass looks like bermuda grass
Is that right?:)
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Nice place you have there. The grass looks like bermuda grass
Is that right?:)
No idea, but its green if that helps you to identify the brand. :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
No idea, but its green if that helps you to identify the brand. :)
well then if you dont know I can state its bermuda beyond a shadow of a doubt :D
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Lol Torque. If you are used to it you will fall asleep by that "noise"
Yeah.
Used to spend every summer on a boat for weeks/months (our version of camping).
When I got home it was tough to fall asleep without all that clanging.
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Rookies-Snub them correctly and you get a minor thrum, none of that annoying clink-clink.
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Originally posted by Lizking
Rookies-Snub them correctly and you get a minor thrum, none of that annoying clink-clink.
or uncared for boats.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
yea but the real question is:
How many cup holders does it have.
You can never have too many of them.....they are the basis for what is good and what is crap.
HAHA I def. agree with you Gunslinger. If you guys spend time in the same type of boat as myself, The fishin type. Have you ever noticed that half the cup holders contain everything but cans or cups, mine ususally has hooks, jigs, lures, bait, tin of skoal, everything but cups lol
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Originally posted by RTStuka
HAHA I def. agree with you Gunslinger. If you guys spend time in the same type of boat as myself, The fishin type. Have you ever noticed that half the cup holders contain everything but cans or cups, mine ususally has hooks, jigs, lures, bait, tin of skoal, everything but cups lol
sun-Dried bait...:eek: :aok
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Was worried that the thread was fadiga away :)
Here we go again.... boats are fun.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Was worried that the thread was fadiga away :)
Here we go again.... boats are fun.
:aok
Here is a pic of the previous boat I owned from 1991 to 2000. Larson All American cuddy (19.5 ft. or 5.94 m) with the volvo penta dual prop. This is not the exact boat, but just like it.
(http://www.boatshop24.com/images/bootsbilder/images_72/1239772gross.jpg)
We truly loved that boat and used the hell out of it. Definately got my monies worth from it. I paid $17,000 for it and 9 years later I sold it for $9,000.
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Ive seen some Larson's here to (and quite a few in the phonebook :D )'
Why did you sell it?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Ive seen some Larson's here to (and quite a few in the phonebook :D )'
Why did you sell it?
Priorities. We had another child ..and we couldn't get out in it much when both were in diapers.
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Kids.....yeah i know what you mean. We had a boat on order for this summer before we found out we were going to have a baby. It set us back abit and we decided to wait before we got another loan. Better to have abit of reserves before we order the bat now so we will wait 1 or 2 years before we place the order.....Unless we get one more kid first :)
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If he (or any of you boaters) are looking for navigational software, my site will be "officially" open soon...just getting sales tax, inventory and the store software finely tuned....selling computer-based nav software & accessories :aok
http://www.discountmarinesoftware.com
(Not much there now, but almost ready to link in everything!)
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Originally posted by LePaul
If he (or any of you boaters) are looking for navigational software, my site will be "officially" open soon...just getting sales tax, inventory and the store software finely tuned....selling computer-based nav software & accessories :aok
http://www.discountmarinesoftware.com
(Not much there now, but almost ready to link in everything!)
Thanks LePaul, but I never need navigation, people are always telling me where to go! :p
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Kids.....yeah i know what you mean. We had a boat on order for this summer before we found out we were going to have a baby. It set us back abit and we decided to wait before we got another loan. Better to have abit of reserves before we order the bat now so we will wait 1 or 2 years before we place the order.....Unless we get one more kid first :)
Whatkind whatkind whatkind!? Got a website or pics?
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For the boatbrand?
Yes:
http://www.x-yachts.com/
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Originally posted by Nilsen
For the boatbrand?
Yes:
http://www.x-yachts.com/
Ah, sweet! Too much work for me!
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yeah it takes abit more effort to move the boat along than just to use a throttle and that is another reason that it was a good idea to wait until the little person is abit bigger. We took her out for a one week sail on our inlaws boat but the weather wasnt very good so we spent most of the time at anchor and at various ports. She needs to be fed and changed all the time and doing that while sailing in heavy winds is not as easy as it sounds :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thanks LePaul, but I never need navigation, people are always telling me where to go! :p
I was at the wheel and followed the oders of the skipper/owner and now the frigging boat has been under repairs for two weeks... :(
Strange thing, navigation chart said it would be over 7 meters deep (IIRC Sonar did show 11-12m a bit earlier) at there and suddenly we lost parts from the prop and drive-unit.
Oh well; maybe it was a russian sub or something :D
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Originally posted by Staga
I was at the wheel and followed the oders of the skipper/owner and now the frigging boat has been under repairs for two weeks... :(
Strange thing, navigation chart said it would be over 7 meters deep (IIRC Sonar did show 11-12m a bit earlier) at there and suddenly we lost parts from the prop and drive-unit.
Oh well; maybe it was a russian sub or something :D
Was the tide out?
(My above post was basically people tell me to go to hell, so why do I need navigation? ;) )
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We don't have much tide in here; the height of water depends more about winds and if it's been raining lately or if it has been longer dry season. Spring and summer has been quite rainy in here so that reason can be ruled out.
Not sure what we hit; There shouldn't be rocks in that place so maybe it was a driftwood or some other object floating under the surface.
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Originally posted by Staga
Not sure what we hit; There shouldn't be rocks in that place so maybe it was a driftwood or some other object floating under the surface.
That sucks.
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Well at least we were still floating.
Couple hours ago a 21 meter (~70ft) ketch sunk few km south from the place where we lost 35knots from our speed near the "Harmaja" lighthouse 10km S from Helsinki.
Crew of 3 persons were picked up to the nearby trawler after it was prominent that pumps were pushing less water out than what was coming in.
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I'm sorry to hear that Staga, it's sad whenever a boat is lost. I'm glad the crew surrvived.
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Boats are great arent they? :)
mmm...boats.
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On the subjects of boats..
A local guy has bought the boat used in Miami Vice at an auction..
Its a Welcraft Scarab KV 38 doing 60knots
http://www.ta.no/nyheter/article1191849.ece (in norwegian)
(http://www.ta.no/multimedia/archive/00435/8-orkan_435250g.jpg)
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...And speaking more of boats- Rip. I talked to a guy with a boat similar to yours, and he put trim tabs on his to keep the bow in the water.
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Originally posted by Airhead
...And speaking more of boats- Rip. I talked to a guy with a boat similar to yours, and he put trim tabs on his to keep the bow in the water.
Airhead... I may go that route, but I don't know if I can justify $500+ (For bennett tabs) when I need a couple more toys first.
I put 2 X 5 gallon jugs of water (Collapsible type of containers) in the bow of the boat this week end, took the 6 hp trolling motor off, and during our waterskiing, kneeboarding adventure yesterday, it held the bow down better than I expected.
Nilsen, thats a sweet boat if you're into that sorta boating! Did he have to pay more because the boat was "hollywood" ?
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Imagine owning a boat in Sweden lol! So far this "summer" we have had about 5 days with the sun shining...
Wooopeeee!
Worst summer since the 1920´s here! :aok
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Airhead... I may go that route, but I don't know if I can justify $500+ (For bennett tabs) when I need a couple more toys first.
I put 2 X 5 gallon jugs of water (Collapsible type of containers) in the bow of the boat this week end, took the 6 hp trolling motor off, and during our waterskiing, kneeboarding adventure yesterday, it held the bow down better than I expected.
Nilsen, thats a sweet boat if you're into that sorta boating! Did he have to pay more because the boat was "hollywood" ?
What he payed for it is a secret, but it came in mint condition and had a plack on the dashboard with Don Johnson's name on it. He also says it has in excess of 1000hp and wheight is 4tonnes. Oh, and the auction was in 1988 so he has had it for awhile.
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We don't have much tide in here; the height of water depends more about winds and if it's been raining lately or if it has been longer dry season.
Lucky b*******. We get 8 - 10m tides here, makes finding somewhere to launch a real pain.
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Lol, found a pic of the innards of the "boat"..... that 80's stuff would fly even today.....in the ghey communities :D
velvet and pastelles :D
(http://www.autosalon-singen.com/miami_vice/miami_vice_boot_03.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I put 2 X 5 gallon jugs of water (Collapsible type of containers) in the bow of the boat this week end, took the 6 hp trolling motor off, and during our waterskiing, kneeboarding adventure yesterday, it held the bow down better than I expected.
AHOY!
:cool: I am packing stuff on the boat right now, the missus and I are off to the lake, prolly stay till wends morn!
yaha.
Dont worry ill be back soon to shoot yall aces down yet again :)
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enjoy mista Lee
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Originally posted by X2Lee
AHOY!
:cool: I am packing stuff on the boat right now, the missus and I are off to the lake, prolly stay till wends morn!
yaha.
Dont worry ill be back soon to shoot yall aces down yet again :)
Enjoy! My body is aching today after yesterdays Slalom, kneeboarding, jet skiing...My mind is young, my body...well...here I come Depends!
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Damn I'd love to get to the sea again; too bad friend's boat is still under repairs... fck.
Oh well; I'm glad some guys can do it so have fun x2lee :)
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Looks like this died when gas shot up. Any of you still enjoying your boats?
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Originally posted by Rash
Looks like this died when gas shot up. Any of you still enjoying your boats?
raises hand
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Neighbor is still using his,(subject of original post) although I think he's purchased a Texas oil well to supply it with fuel....
We ares still enjoying ours, it has a 4-stroke 140 Suzi, sometimes I think the gas gauge is busted on it because it goes forever on a tank of fuel. For example, we went fishing in July for 8 days. We used the boat every day, about 30 miles per day average (from trolling with the 6 hp 4-stroke, to waterskiing with the 140hp 4-stroke) and we used 35 gallons of gas total. :aok
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4 strokes aree awesome! Im thinking hard about replacing the 2 stroke i have now with a 4
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Originally posted by Nilsen
4 strokes aree awesome! Im thinking hard about replacing the 2 stroke i have now with a 4
That was supposed to happen when you got married! Oh wait...
:D
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Nilsen, you live where I would love to live, forever. Rip, you must be a lot younger then me; or a crazy old fart.
Good to see that gas hasn't put a damper on some good o'l fun.
I float most of the time (since that gas has double in the last 2 years) Still love going.
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What is it with punting ancient posts?
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Originally posted by Rash
Nilsen, you live where I would love to live, forever. Rip, you must be a lot younger then me; or a crazy old fart.
Good to see that gas hasn't put a damper on some good o'l fun.
I float most of the time (since that gas has double in the last 2 years) Still love going.
Pick a fjord, drop yer anchor and stretch your legs... :)