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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Glunz on November 28, 2000, 06:31:00 PM
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....is Fw 190A-8. It is absolutely awesome. Why ?
Not too easy to fly. Not the fastest. Not hardest hitting. Not the turner. Only roll rate is above other planes. Once at disadvantage you better be good in it.
Not the plane that makes every dweeb look good in it.
But it has style. So much more than other planes. Scissors !!! Both flat and rolling.
Every P 51 and his brother wants to turn with one. Well, don’t get too hot about it. 190 can kill too, you know. Always a pleasure to shoot down P 51 in 190.
Now I can understand the Jug drivers. But hey, 190 is still a better plane.
And the best thing is. The dweeb following hasn’t discovered it yet (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hristo!!!!
Welcome back.
-Westy
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LOL Glonz... or whoever you are.
Frankly; I may have to agree. A well flown 190 is one of my favorite kills. I'd have to say that a well flown 109 is probably my favorite adverasry A/C; but I consider the 190 to be a tad more dangerous... just because of those amazing flick-rolls. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
BTW.. as you well know; the pony's my preferred ride. Not because it's a better plane.. (it ain't) .. but rather because of it's charisma.
Consider.. the germans built some butt-ugly brutes.. proficient no-nonsense killer A/C throughout. Beautifly engineeered, marvelous craftmanship, tough and rugged with superb deadly armaments... truly; the germans made GREAT airplanes.
But the Pony is the Babe you always wanted, but could never keep. She's the definition of illicit LUST in the sky.. She's big; larger than life, she's decadent, bright & flashy, wicked fast, purely the epitomie of desire... and she's not fer you Hristo. hehehheee.. you go ahead.. Drive those butt-ugly brutes. I'm waitin. Still.
My pony sez it loud; every time I see her parked on the apron.. waitin just fer me.
"Come get some... and lets go find soccer boy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)"
Ready for us yet Hristo?
Hang
[This message has been edited by Hangtime (edited 11-28-2000).]
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Uh, I missed it, how is a 190 better than a jug?
ra
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The one your in............. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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When Im in the P51, the only plane I have any real trouble with is the 109G10. Spits, Zekes and Niks can be B&Z'd until E state is equal then you extend and repeat as needed.
Yaks and La5s are tough but can be escaped from if things get sour.
A well flown 109G10, however, once you thing you have reversed the advantage kick in their WEP and climb above ya. Soon as you realize you are roped and dive to gain speed, they dive back in on ya. There is little chance for escape.
Hate em. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Ding
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Here are some of the reasons:
film1 (http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/sweet.ahf)
film2 (http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/roller.ahf)
They get so fixated, because they see low 190 and think how easy target that one is.
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If the MG start working next ver. FW will be the monster it was in RL
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The MG's do't work properly?
Ah, that explains why I ca't hit squat at over d300 (when I fire MG's).
And, HT, the P-51 is the typical American silicone implanted bimbo, whereas the 190A8 is a tough real life dominatrix that'll give punishment to anyone unfortunate to be at the wrong end.
Personally, I'll take a dominatrix in a latex suit over a bimbo that basically is a latex doll (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
PPPFFFTH! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}
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LOLOL Santa !
Here we preach .. followers of the ANTI-Dweeb .. faithfull FW190A8, F4U-1D, C202, 109F4 / G2 and P47 Drivers
Who like being punished by our favorite dominatrix..
Out RUNed , out GUNed, out TURNed but never
OUTCLASSED (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
DW6
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ahem*
p38 is about as non dweeb as you can get after 1.04.
the only plane it out turns is the p47. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Originally posted by ra:
Uh, I missed it, how is a 190 better than a jug?
ra
Check stats (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by StSanta:
Personally, I'll take a dominatrix in a latex suit over a bimbo that basically is a latex doll (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
That's nice Santa. Now that we know you like to be dominated by a woman, just remember to keep looking over your shoulder because that's where "Darling Debbie", my beloved P-51D will be, saddled up with riding crop in hand ready to whip your ass.
The Pony may be an "American silicone implanted bimbo" but that is why I love her so. If you treat her right she will do absolutely amazing things for you and everyone else at the party will be drooling in jealousy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"
Midnight
13th TAS
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ice has 14 kills and has been killed 1 time in the P-51D against the Fw 190A-8.
The 190-A8? Just another snack for my Pony! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I know pilots in our community that can kill in anything they fly.
As my friend Eric Clapton so elegantly put it..."It's in the way that you use it". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
BTW Glunz....I've learned how to deal with the twisting butterfly type manuevers which you 190 pilots are so fond of...I look forward to aquiring your six (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ice
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Keep dreaming !
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Midnight, making the same comparisoon, it's nice to see you prefer shagging latex dolls to having sex with actual women (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
Duck; preach on, my brother; although the heretics shall never learn, we must do what is in our power to teach the good book.
And P-51's are focke-food. Only reason I don't kill more is because they're running cowards.
When I get to fly the D9, the 51's will die in great numbers. Sure, right now the 51 outruns, outclimbs, outranges (in guns), has more endurances, rolls better at high speeds and outturns the 190.
I wonder what'll happen when only *two* of those advantages are turned over to the FW?
Actually I know what'll happen. The allies will scream PERK!
Odd how us LW don't scream "perk the 51!" huh?
That's because despite its shortcomings, it still owns the P-51.
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}
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Hristo....
I'm not dreaming my friend....I've been killing 190's, unlike yourself, who sits off in the distance running his trap just like you always have.
Do you have an account this time or just another temp....if so, save us your opinions and come get some...talk is cheap!
And Santa...I wish the D9 were here in the arena, and not as a perk either...the D9 is an excellent fighter and deserves to be flown full time in the arena...in addition, when it arrives, I won't have to listen to anymore LW whinin (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ltr
Ice
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The only way i want a D9 in the game is if there is a -4Corsair or a Spit 14 in the same arena but then they would all be to good for the present arena. I don't want to run into any of em with the planeset we have now. having a few of them around would be a great way to ruin an arena.
As for the 51.. I would like to see some of the problems with the mg's fixed. If they were a little more deadly I would fly planes equipped with 6 fifties more. Hope they are improved by the time the Hellcat comes out.
lazs
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Glunz, as long as you maintain:
A) Energy
B) Alititude
Otherwise the A8 is dog meat on the table for any loitering Niki...trust me on this one. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Since I came back I have found the P51 to still be the class of the AH arena. It has speed, endurance/range, handling, great pilot visibility, and aside from not being able to use the icon to pull lead on targets under your nose anymore, I find the guns to be the same as they were in 1.03 - good enough to take down anything flying in the MA. The only weakness from my point of view is the garish high visibility bare-naked aluminum finish (give us the P51-B plz), and the fact that all those Pony Express boys (e.g.Hangtime and RWY) can fly it way better than me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
She's big; larger than life, she's decadent, bright & flashy, wicked fast, purely the epitomie of desire...
Hang, I thought you do this thing... you know... only with your cat, BUT WITH THE PLANE???
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Originally posted by Citabria:
the only plane it out turns is the p47. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Hell no Cit, I killed a lone Chog in my P38 last week, and I had full fuel and ordnance (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). Of course the Chog driver went for a HO, and then just sort of flew around me aimlessly not knowing what to do next, until I snuck up on his 6 and took his tail off. But it can be done.
My favorite fights are me in my Pony against a 109 G6 or G10, a very even fight in most respects, I've had a lot of those end with both of us breaking off, saluting and going home happy. Haven't seen any 190's at all until last night, when me and pollock1 were bounced by two 190's and two Chogs no our bomb run. One Chog suicided trying to get me, and I ended up turning with the 190's for a while, pinging them occasionally and neither getting an angle on me. Then a Chog came up from the nearby field (this was all in the ack umbrella of A5, which was NME (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) and killed me with a lucky snapshot right off the runway. Too bad, I had fun with those 190's.
(http://hem.bredband.net/rickenbacker/images/ricksig.jpg)
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When I fly against a 190, or read posts by 190 pilots on BBS, I allways have this picture in front of me, the expression in his face goes well with the attitude of most AH 190 pilots (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
(http://www.users.bigpond.com/markltuc/images/Lobi.jpg)
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GrinBird
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I don't know who that Hristo dude is. But I fly.
190 rocks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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If your not him, then I am very sorry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
If you are him, you're still the turd you always have been (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ice
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Originally posted by GrinBird:
(http://www.users.bigpond.com/markltuc/images/Lobi.jpg)
Good one ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Looks like he has wood teeth and is passing gas. Is that the pic you wanted to show?
-Westy
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Ice:
If your not him, then I am very sorry (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
If you are him, you're still the turd you always have been (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ice
What do you think, you bloody opportunist ? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Welcome back you turd! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ice
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k/d of 5.0.
30 & 4 in a 190
If you ain't hristo, you're his twin.
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Apache
=XO= VMF-323 Death Rattlers
VMF 323 Death Rattlers Web Site (http://home.earthlink.net/~bkapache)
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
"Come get some... and lets go find soccer boy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)"
ROFLMAO !
I thought U'd caught the fish with that one (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Welcome back "Jesus" !
Saw
[This message has been edited by Saintaw (edited 11-29-2000).]
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Bah... that 190 is just too small to be a man's plane. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
At least it's a radial.. that's something.
As a Jug driver, 190's are some of my favourite adversaries. It's one of the few planes that the Jug is fairly close to in terms of abilities. It's always fun to scrap with a good 190 driver. I must say though, I rarely see 'em down low with me. Almost all the time I see them it's them booming through a furball. The Jug's great diving ability makes it just the plane to jump in and run down that errant FW in too. <G>
A 500 MPH gun pass is a sweet, sweet thing my friend. It's even better when you do it with 8 x .50 cal in a plane the size of a medium bomber. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You guys are REALLY gonna be in trouble when the bullet dispersion weighting goes in for the next version. This should benefit the Jug more than any other plane in terms of killing power. No more assists for me, and no more surviving 8x .50 cal snapshots for you Luftwobblies. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
"A pig is a jolly companion,
Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale,
Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you,
When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover,
You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!"
-- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
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amen.
Fix my .50's; gimmie a Navy with a F6F-5, and gawdammit, where's my B model pony??
Then I'll be happy.... with a HA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
[This message has been edited by Hangtime (edited 11-29-2000).]
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As a flyer of the 190a8 I must agree it is the best plane even though its performance isnt exceptional.its down to the pilots who fly em (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
LW rule!
hazed
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Bah Big Blue is an one man army, the waffle stuff blows sissy gurlymen hanz and franz.
Hello 2 week Charlie dork.
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 11-29-2000).]
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Originally posted by StSanta:
And P-51's are focke-food. Only reason I don't kill more is because they're running cowards.
When I get to fly the D9, the 51's will die in great numbers. Sure, right now the 51 outruns, outclimbs, outranges (in guns), has more endurances, rolls better at high speeds and outturns the 190.
Only thing 190 pilots do well is whine (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
If you cant beat it, complain about it! LOL!
-Ding
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Originally posted by Ice:
And Santa...I wish the D9 were here in the arena, and not as a perk either...the D9 is an excellent fighter and deserves to be flown full time in the arena...in addition, when it arrives, I won't have to listen to anymore LW whinin (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Ltr
Ice
BOOYAH!!
Im with ya there Ice (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Finally us speed lovers can get a plane with decent guns that dont require aim unlike the 51 as well as warp roll capability!
Cant wait to hear the whining with 1.05! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Ding
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9./JG54 has 1038 kills and has been killed 412 times in the Fw 190A-8.
(Rest of the arena has 1603 kills and has been killed 1594 times in the Fw 190A-8.)
Against particular type:
P51D - 100 vs 42
Spit IX - 137 vs 62
Dweeb Hog - 74 vs 40
Hog - 20 vs 6
Niki - 118 vs 54
La 5FN - 31 vs 10
Spit V - 42 vs 8
P 38L - 20 vs 10
Typhoon - 39 vs 17
Yak 9U - 36 vs 9
A6M5b - 30 vs 5
P 47D-30 - 32 vs 12
P 47D-25 - 6 vs 1
B 26B - 42 vs 8
B 17G - 38 vs 9
Lancaster - 36 vs 3
Nice plane, that Fw 190A-8 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Don't know who that Hristo dude is, eh?
-Westy
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Real men fly P-38's. All others are sheep huggers.
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.kill Tac (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ah memories! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Looks like Hangtime should be Happy with a capital HA. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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bloom25
-MAW-
(Formerly of the)
THUNDERBIRDS
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If u can fly the 38 u can fly em all (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<S> to the brave Lightning warriors
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NOW TELL ME! If you could pick a plane and fly into a major FFA (free for all) battle with lets say about 50 planes, and it was set up as an elimination battle. Meaning if you get shot down or crashed you were eliminated from the game.
WHAT WOULD YOU FLY!
Hmmm..... funny no one mention the Tempest.
Seems like it is
1)SPEED: Faster than a P51, may even be the fastest or 2nd fastest plane in the game. This may change with altitude. I'm looking at about 0 to 10,000ft.
2)TURNS: Seems like it can match any other aircraft in a turn. Of course you can out turn anyone if you are blacking out and have altitude cause you can still fly the plane. (That's were lost of control functions should kick in.)
3)GUNS: Seems like it gives the opponent a major bellybutton kicking like some of the other strong gunned planes. DON'T GO HEAD TO HEAD AGAINST IT! I know I'm just a rookie flyer, but I tried many time against my friend, who is also a rookie, me in a 109 and him in a Temp. I would guess that I would die +90% of the time. If not more. I tried other plane too.
4)STRENGTH: If you somehow survive a head to head bullet flurry with it, and you collide with it, you usually won't survive, but the Tempest usually keeps on flying (but will have some damage). Its like colliding with a N1K2-J.
I fly it some of the times (may be 10%), more to counter my friend.
I like flying several planes. I'm no pro, but that's ok, I try to get my opponent to work hard to kill me. I suppose it gives me the satisfaction of how long I a can live, sometimes even get a thrill of landing a badly crippled plane. While on the other hand it gives my opponent, the satisfaction that he was able to finally kill me.
NOTE! DELIBERATE CRASHING IS NOT AN OPTION. I WOULD RATHER DIE AND GO TO HELL THAN DO THAT.
I may be getting the crap shot out of me but while I'm trying to keep my plane flying, I'm trying to think on how I can kill my opponent or get a successful landing.
Pokie