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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on July 19, 2004, 12:57:51 AM
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Obviously there is a war going on but I feel that somehow there is a bit more to it..
Your thoughts?
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nothing different than any other time I have experienced in my lifetime.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
"...but I feel that somehow there is a bit more to it..
Your thoughts?"
How about yours?
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Not sure what you mean by militarized. Our military is smaller now than it was 10 years ago. Do you mean that more people seem to be speaking out for action against terrorists? That's a natural reaction to the attack we suffered on 9/11.
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Not nearly as much as the 80's.
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The USA spends $953.01 per person annually in defense. Only Israel and Singapore spend more per capita.
In 1999 (Latest yr I could find quickly) the USA spent 281 Billion. More than the next six countries combined. (Mainland China, Japan, France. UK, Russia, and Germany respectively.)
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More like a police state actually!
Its for sure the founding fathers would be throwing tea in the harbour by now!
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In every home a Squad Automatic Weapon! :D
dago
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Originally posted by Ghosth
More like a police state actually!
Its for sure the founding fathers would be throwing tea in the harbour by now!
Don't get me wrong here, I believe that our police force should be sufficient to ensure order and that they should be appropriately compensated. However, if we're going to talk about a "police state" we have to look at under which party that's most likely to occur. Ya gotta have police to have a police state right? Which candidate is promising to throw more money that way?
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Which candidate is akiron?
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Originally posted by Pongo
Which candidate is akiron?
Kerry.
"Kerry's speech also called for putting 100,000 new police on the streets"
http://www.newamerica.net/index.cfm?pg=article&DocID=1294
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So you are then equating hiring more police with creating a police state. Is this a fox newsism or did you come up with it yourself?
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LOL Pongo you are such a tool.
If you feel so strongly about this why even ask which candidate proposed it?
You were just asking so you could decide whether you were pro or con based on if it was Kerry or Bush who asked for these cops..
Nice obligatory bash at foxnews too. But I understand how you place so much weight on a media sources influence in this matter, seeing as how you get your political thoughts spoonfed to you by Micheal Moore and authors of libelous books... What a brainwashed loser you have been of late... Sad..
Go Kerry! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Pongo
So you are then equating hiring more police with creating a police state. Is this a fox newsism or did you come up with it yourself?
Ghosth brought it up. I was just pointing out the obvious, you can't have a police state without police. Personally, I'm not really concerned about it, but what do I know?
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If Fox News really hasnt explained the difference I will enlighten you. They would have to be secret police to be relevent in regards to a police state. You know. Like all the 100s of thousands of guys in the Department of Homeland security. And they need to be legally empowered to spy and comit espianage against the population of the country. You know like the Patriot Act.
beat cops dont make a police state. Especially when the moneys to hire them are distributed piece meal accross the country.
Just in case Fox News doenst explain the difference.
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Originally posted by Pongo
If Fox News really hasnt explained the difference I will enlighten you. They would have to be secret police to be relevent in regards to a police state. You know. Like all the 100s of thousands of guys in the Department of Homeland security. And they need to be legally empowered to spy and comit espianage against the population of the country. You know like the Patriot Act.
beat cops dont make a police state. Especially when the moneys to hire them are distributed piece meal accross the country.
Just in case Fox News doenst explain the difference.
What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.
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Originally posted by Pongo
If Fox News really hasnt explained the difference I will enlighten you. They would have to be secret police to be relevent in regards to a police state. You know. Like all the 100s of thousands of guys in the Department of Homeland security. And they need to be legally empowered to spy and comit espianage against the population of the country. You know like the Patriot Act.
beat cops dont make a police state. Especially when the moneys to hire them are distributed piece meal accross the country.
Just in case Fox News doenst explain the difference.
you need to read up on patriot act and dhs staffing.
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Originally posted by AKIron
What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.
When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.
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Originally posted by Pongo
When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.
Like I said, I'm not concerned about it. However, for the sake of argument I'll play Devil's Advocate. There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty. From their perspective additional police (was it 100,000 additional police for NYC alone that Kerry was proposing?) are only further repression by a nonrepresentative government.
A police state has to have a force unanswerable to the will of the people capable of instilling fear but not necessarily secret.
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Originally posted by Pongo
When I see a rational man that equates hiring more police with becoming a police state. I know that propoganda is at work somewhere. Since you apperanlty have a sub cranial subscription to fox news I assumed that was the source of your dishonest ignorance.
actually he specifically said he didnt...
Personally, I'm not really concerned about it, but what do I know?
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Originally posted by AKIron
What would you know about Fox News? Your government won't even let you watch it. Maybe you don't need any police at all to live in a police state. Just a repressive government and a society of sheep.
we can still get it through the internet...
police state is-
A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.
n : a country that maintains repressive control over the people by means of police (especially secret police)
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Originally posted by vorticon
we can still get it through the internet...
police state is-
A state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the people, especially by means of a secret police force.
n : a country that maintains repressive control over the people by means of police (especially secret police)
Well, guess ya need at least one cop then. ;)
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"There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty."
That is pretty good advocating..the devil would be proud.
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Originally posted by Pongo
"There are many in the US that already consider it to be a "police state", particularly among those in areas of abject poverty."
That is pretty good advocating..the devil would be proud.
you dont see a cop even if you need one
police state my arse
anyone who thinks its so has thier head up thier ass....
or aint from america.
fact.
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Originally posted by X2Lee
you dont see a cop even if you need one
police state my arse
anyone who thinks its so has thier head up thier ass....
or aint from america.
fact.
Tell that to those that burned down LA a decade ago, besides, donchya know, they're secret. ;)