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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SunTracker on July 20, 2004, 04:16:01 AM
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Long story short, there was someone bragging about killing an Iraqi. A Marine. My bs meter was going off, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
My question is: Is killing someone a traumatic event for most people? Do some 'normal' people have no trouble speaking of the event?
Note: He is a remf, Network Admin (in the Marines).
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Taking another life isn't something most people are proud of. You can be proud of the "event" due to it's consequences, such as wiping out a machine gun post to allow troops to pass safely. The personal act of killing a soldier is usually hard to stomach, though. It's a life.
Having no trouble speaking about the event doesn't always mean anything, though. It's how you FEEL about the event.
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Everyone reacts differently in their own way, and you might not be able to tell how a guy feels by the way he acts unless you're trainined to do so. I met a fellow over there who was depressed that he was the only troop in his team who didn't get a kill during the combat phase. I heard some of his guys ribbing him about it and laughing about how "the fat guy moved his head so you missed HA HA" or something like that. How any of them really feel is something only they know.
As for the remf part, normally this would throw a few BS points into his story, but in Iraq it's entirely possible. The war didn't really begin until it was over (as predicted), and there aren't any front lines for the remfs to be behind. Everyone gets shot at sooner or later, so yeah, it coulda happened they way he says it did.
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Well some say "That was awesome, let's do it again"... Go Marines!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv
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Originally posted by Staga
Well some say "That was awesome, let's do it again"... Go Marines!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv
looks edited Staga, but if not......YUCK!
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What would you expect those kids to say, Staga?
I guess you don't have to be psychic to predict certain posts in certain threads.
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Originally posted by Staga
Well some say "That was awesome, let's do it again"... Go Marines!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv
Enemy combatants. I'd cheer too if they were shooting at my guys moments before.
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Originally posted by Staga
Well some say "That was awesome, let's do it again"... Go Marines!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv
Although I don't support that war at all, I wouldn't give too much weight to what those young guys are saying only minutes after a firefight, with adrenaline still rushing in their blood.
Justified or not, they'll prolly have to deal later with the moral implications of the shooting of a wounded enemy. Some may brush it aside while others may have to carry this weight for the rest of their life.
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Originally posted by Staga
Well some say "That was awesome, let's do it again"... Go Marines!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv
Talk about your bad edits. Heck, that guy could have been talking about riding your sister.
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Not exactly, because there was a follow up segment on him after he came home. he was pretty distraught over the whole event.
If it were your sister martlet, maybe it was a bad edit, afterall...
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Not exactly, because there was a follow up segment on him after he came home. he was pretty distraught over the whole event.
If it were your sister martlet, maybe it was a bad edit, afterall...
Yes exactly. How about posting a link to that follow up segment?
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Taking a life is easy, its the dealing with it later in life thats a b1tch.
As far as Marines talking smack after a fire fight that is what they are trained to do. What makes the grass grow??
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Guess ya got to be there.
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Originally posted by -Concho-
Taking a life is easy, its the dealing with it later in life thats a b1tch.
As far as Marines talking smack after a fire fight that is what they are trained to do. What makes the grass grow??
trained to talk smack?
a combo of pee, beer and bbq sauce is what makes our grass grow......if it like it or not is another story :D
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Assuming that wounded Iraqi was returning fire, I'd probably cheer as well if I was in that situation. "He is dead, I am not".
I can't imagine not wanting the death of an enemy who was shooting at me moments before. War sucks.
Daniel
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Originally posted by Martlet
Yes exactly. How about posting a link to that follow up segment?
Sorry martlett, I don't have the time or interest in searching for it, for you, as it was months ago. it was on CNN I believe...look it up yourself, or do a google search.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Sorry martlett, I don't have the time or interest in searching for it, for you, as it was months ago. it was on CNN I believe...look it up yourself, or do a google search.
Wow - it must really be good then. Lets find it.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Wow - it must really be good then. Lets find it.
:lol
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This quite nicely illustrates the level of evidence an anti-war poster thinks he needs to get his message accepted as fact.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
This quite nicely illustrates the level of evidence an anti-war poster thinks he needs to get his message accepted as fact.
You want a higher standard of evidence for a left winger to post on this bbs then you require of a right wing president to invade a country and cause the deaths of 1000s.
Cool.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
Long story short, there was someone bragging about killing an Iraqi. A Marine. My bs meter was going off, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
My question is: Is killing someone a traumatic event for most people? Do some 'normal' people have no trouble speaking of the event?
Note: He is a remf, Network Admin (in the Marines).
It's not traumatic, mostly it's done at long range, normal people don't brag about it.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Sorry martlett, I don't have the time or interest in searching for it, for you, as it was months ago. it was on CNN I believe...look it up yourself, or do a google search.
I saw a follow up segment to the follow up segment. He was talking about what a horrible edit job that was, and how in fact he was repeating a conversation he heard some guy name Red Tail having about his rest stop adventures.
I'd look it up, but I don't have the time or the interest.
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Originally posted by Martlet
I saw a follow up segment to the follow up segment. He was talking about what a horrible edit job that was, and how in fact he was repeating a conversation he heard some guy name Red Tail having about his rest stop adventures.
I'd look it up, but I don't have the time or the interest.
Ah...there it is, the famous, "I disagree with you so you must be gay" connotation, that so many homophobic men toss around.
Your immaturity is so predictable it's sad. If you really want to look it up, it shouldn't be that difficult.
Regards.
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What did he do, install service pack 4 on the enemy?
;)
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Ah...there it is, the famous, "I disagree with you so you must be gay" connotation, that so many homophobic men toss around.
Your immaturity is so predictable it's sad. If you really want to look it up, it shouldn't be that difficult.
Regards.
Actually, it was the "I disagree with you, you cite a source in support of your argument, I ask you to produce it, you're "too tired", so I point out that you're a liar" connotation.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Actually, it was the "I disagree with you, you cite a source in support of your argument, I ask you to produce it, you're "too tired", so I point out that you're a liar" connotation.
works both ways..if you can't disprove it, then you are the liar
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Maybe it was a clean kill. Maybe he had witnesses see it go down in flames and the pilot ejected.
;) :D
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
works both ways..if you can't disprove it, then you are the liar
Do you realize how absolutely asinine that statement is?
I'm saying there was no follow up segment and he lied. You say "prove it"?
How? Do you suppose someone wrote a story about how there was no follow up segment? Maybe someone gave a speech specifically mentioning that there was no follow up segment?
If there WAS one like Yellow Back claimed, however, it should be fairly easy to post a link to it.