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Title: Its great to see America.
Post by: Maniac on July 21, 2004, 09:29:35 AM
Its great to be seeing you American citizens caring what the rest of the world thinks about you.

In the past you couldnt care less, its great that this is truly changing.

We have to give a big to the Internet for making this possible. People have the tool to enlighten themselfs now and get in touch with citizens from other countrys with other views and angles.

Having internet available in the US is djust as important as having internet available to the Chinese citizens.

for your changing efforts Americans, i apriciate it alot.
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Post by: ra on July 21, 2004, 09:55:20 AM
Dream on.
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Post by: Masherbrum on July 21, 2004, 09:56:56 AM
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Originally posted by Maniac
Its great to be seeing you American citizens caring what the rest of the world thinks about you.

In the past you couldnt care less, its great that this is truly changing.

We have to give a big to the Internet for making this possible. People have the tool to enlighten themselfs now and get in touch with citizens from other countrys with other views and angles.

Having internet available in the US is djust as important as having internet available to the Chinese citizens.

for your changing efforts Americans, i apriciate it alot.


If this is voiced worldwide, China is invading us from the West, France will invade us from the East, Mexico from the South.   Who would attack from the North? :rofl

Karaya
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Post by: lazs2 on July 21, 2004, 09:57:25 AM
It would be nice if other countries liked us but it is not very important.

lazs
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Post by: Wanker on July 21, 2004, 09:57:49 AM
Maniac, most of us have always cared about how the rest of the world perceives us.

And then there's people like RA who have never, and will never give a shreck what the rest of the world thinks about us.

Just remember that those kind of people are in the minority, although they are a very vocal minority.
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Post by: Saintaw on July 21, 2004, 09:59:59 AM
Maniac, you shouldn't be drinking during office hours, you know that? :)
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Post by: AKCasca on July 21, 2004, 10:06:18 AM
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Originally posted by banana
Maniac, most of us have always cared about how the rest of the world perceives us.

And then there's people like RA who have never, and will never give a shreck what the rest of the world thinks about us.

Just remember that those kind of people are in the minority, although they are a very vocal minority.



Have to disagree with you, most people in this country could give a damn about what Europe, SE Asia or bum**** Egypt think about this country. The business of living and dealing with our own problems takes precedence.
As Laz said,  it would be nice but ****em if they dont like us, would be the majority (when mommy wasnt watching what they said)
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Post by: Naso on July 21, 2004, 10:16:16 AM
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Originally posted by banana
Maniac, most of us have always cared about how the rest of the world perceives us.

And then there's people like RA who have never, and will never give a shreck what the rest of the world thinks about us.

Just remember that those kind of people are in the minority, although they are a very vocal minority.


Are you really sure ???? :confused:

Just read the precedent post.

:rolleyes:
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Post by: Shuckins on July 21, 2004, 10:18:30 AM
I have always cared about what other nations think about the U.S.  How we are perceived is important to me.  

Conversely, I also am concerned that other countries care about what I, as an American citizen think...and I think that the U.S.turns hostile countries into parking lots.

National security should never play second-fiddle to touchie-feelie international diplomacy.
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Post by: Wanker on July 21, 2004, 10:20:53 AM
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Originally posted by Naso
Are you really sure ???? :confused:

Just read the precedent post.

:rolleyes:


Yes, Naso, I still believe the majority of Americans are good people who care if the U.S. is a good global citizen.

Like I said, there is a minority of people who don't care, and they are very vocal. You will hear more from them in this thread than what is truly representational of "real world" America.

If you guys think that this BBS is America in microcosm, you are wrong. The majority of people on the BBS are right wing conservatives from the south.....and they DO NOT represent a true picture of America as a whole.
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Post by: Pongo on July 21, 2004, 10:22:12 AM
Canada was going to invade a month ago. But we realized that even though most of the US army is gone the NFL could kick our buts. So we have settled on an internet BBS assault!
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Post by: Naso on July 21, 2004, 10:25:14 AM
banana,

From the experiences that I have, having been 3 (or 4?) times in the States, having friends there, and having met many US people here, I used to believe like you, and I liked your country and your people.

But this has been before some very sad event happened, so I am fearing something has changed there, in the ol' USA.
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Post by: Wanker on July 21, 2004, 10:25:15 AM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
I have always cared about what other nations think about the U.S.  How we are perceived is important to me.  

Conversely, I also am concerned that other countries care about what I, as an American citizen think...and I think that the U.S.turns hostile countries into parking lots.

National security should never play second-fiddle to touchie-feelie international diplomacy.


This is very close to my feelings on the subject. Well said, shuckins.
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Post by: Sandman on July 21, 2004, 10:26:18 AM
I'm not sure that AKCasca or banana are correct. IMO, most Americans seem to think that most Americans share the same opinion, especially if it's one they happen to agree with.

I have my doubts.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 21, 2004, 10:28:13 AM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Canada was going to invade a month ago. But we realized that even though most of the US army is gone the NFL could kick our buts. So we have settled on an internet BBS assault!


Honesty is a beautiful thing! Pongo!  ;)

to Maniac for comparing the USA to totalitarian communist China.

But I tell you Europe is going to simply LOVE China when it becomes a full world power and starts drinking up that Mid East oil that Europe depends on soo much more than the USA.. And you will also love China's nunanced and sophisticated foreign policy!
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Post by: Shuckins on July 21, 2004, 10:28:30 AM
banana,

Didn't know Rip is a Southerner!  Wow!  Always knew there was something homey and down-to-earth about that cue ball!

Glad to hear it...sho'nuff!

On a more serious note...I think you'll find conservatives in large numbers throughout the South, the Midwest, the West (even in California), and even in the north.  We're no more vocal than those on the left side of the political spectrum.

Thanks for the comments!

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern
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Post by: JBA on July 21, 2004, 10:30:38 AM
Caligula said
"so what if the hates us, as long as the fear us"
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Post by: slimm50 on July 21, 2004, 10:31:03 AM
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Originally posted by Maniac
We have to give a big to the Internet for making this possible.

Our very own Al Gore invented the internet, you know. So, in a sense, America made it possible for you to appreciate us even more.;)
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Post by: Wotan on July 21, 2004, 10:33:19 AM
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Are you really sure ????


No he's not sure. He’s just spewing the left wing mantra "our world is our village".

Being "good people" has nothing to do with it. Being concerned over what some leftwing Euro socialists think won't change anything. It wont make them less Anti-American. banana just agrees with their left wing view.

Everyone I know doesn’t care anything about what the rest of the world thinks. It makes no difference at all in our lives.  But we are all southern right wingers nuts.

Anti-Americanism has always been part of Europe. Muslim extremist will always hate America.

Don’t kid yourselves over a few folks replying to you on this bbs. A good number of us won’t think twice about what the rest of you all think. It just doesn't matter.
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Post by: Citabria on July 21, 2004, 10:41:27 AM
but how many of you care what people on other planets think of you?

haha
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Post by: Mighty1 on July 21, 2004, 10:59:41 AM
I look at it like this...does France not liking me change my job? Family? friends?

No!

So why should I care?

Most hard working Americans have better things to do then to sit around worrying about what some whiney bellybutton country thinks of us.

Am I in the minority? Don't think so.
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Post by: CyranoAH on July 21, 2004, 11:00:57 AM
Well there's the United States, then there's Texas...
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Post by: AKIron on July 21, 2004, 11:09:02 AM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Well there's the United States, then there's Texas...


Damn straight! :cool:
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Post by: Otto on July 21, 2004, 11:10:50 AM
I care for the rest of the World as much as they care for me....
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Post by: ra on July 21, 2004, 11:11:42 AM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Well there's the United States, then there's Texas...

America doesn't care what Texas thinks either.
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Post by: Mark Luper on July 21, 2004, 11:12:31 AM
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Originally posted by banana
Maniac, most of us have always cared about how the rest of the world perceives us.

And then there's people like RA who have never, and will never give a shreck what the rest of the world thinks about us.

Just remember that those kind of people are in the minority, although they are a very vocal minority.


Yup, you are too liberal and all inclusive in who agrees with you on that. I would like to see other countries like us, most do envy us, but I could care less if they change their mind about us. I do not beleive in doing back flips to appease other countries.  I only hope our "true" alliles remain so and I hope we would be willing to go to some extremes to maintain that relationship. Most of the people in my aquaintance share a similar view.
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Post by: AKIron on July 21, 2004, 11:14:44 AM
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Originally posted by ra
America doesn't care what Texas thinks either.


and...
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Post by: Shuckins on July 21, 2004, 11:18:09 AM
Slimm,

Met with Al, Mike, Don and some of my other home boys the other day.

We sometimes talk politics, although Don is a hot-head and Al and Mike can be flakey at times.  Ya gotta handle them with kid gloves.

I asked Al about the Internet comment.  He said it was taken out of context and that all he had meant was that he had had some ideas about a world-wide network and had leant his support to its development.  He never meant to imply that he invented it.  He further stated that, in his opinion, the press often deliberately distorts things just to attract more viewers.  

Don agreed with that assessment, and asked Mike what he thought.  Mike stated that he had evidence that Bush flew the second plane into the south tower of the WTC.

Don kicked him in the groin.  Al, aghast,  said that such action was uncalled for, whereupon Don delivered an upper-cut to his jaw.

Bedlam ensued.  Don held his own against the two of them for awhile.  Mike tried to whistle up some help from his buds, Jesse, Sharpy, and Louis, but they told him to "handle your own damn fights you fat white mo-fo."

Eventually I had to step in and slap hell out of everybody to restore order.

Politics...sheesh!  Who needs it?
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Post by: straffo on July 21, 2004, 11:42:58 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Honesty is a beautiful thing! Pongo!  ;)

to Maniac for comparing the USA to totalitarian communist China.

But I tell you Europe is going to simply LOVE China when it becomes a full world power and starts drinking up that Mid East oil that Europe depends on soo much more than the USA.. And you will also love China's nunanced and sophisticated foreign policy!


I wonder how you manage to get that high without taking drugs.









PS : :p
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Post by: Jackal1 on July 21, 2004, 11:46:19 AM
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Originally posted by ra
America doesn't care what Texas thinks either.


 Report to the med station now or you will be late for basket weaving class.
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 21, 2004, 11:48:04 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
I wonder how you manage to get that high without taking drugs.



LOL I always knew all you bastiges posted from a script but this is silly...   :D
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Post by: straffo on July 21, 2004, 11:51:27 AM
Fact is that Saintaw and I are just Ripsnort's script he made a day he was very twisty minded :D
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 21, 2004, 11:52:57 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
Fact is that Saintaw and I are just Ripsnort's script he made a day he was very twisty minded :D


Not to mention both of your are French..
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Post by: mosgood on July 21, 2004, 12:09:24 PM
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Originally posted by banana
Yes, Naso, I still believe the majority of Americans are good people who care if the U.S. is a good global citizen.

Like I said, there is a minority of people who don't care, and they are very vocal. You will hear more from them in this thread than what is truly representational of "real world" America.

If you guys think that this BBS is America in microcosm, you are wrong. The majority of people on the BBS are right wing conservatives from the south.....and they DO NOT represent a true picture of America as a whole.


That's BS.  There are a lot of "good" american people that don't give a rats rear what the rest of the world thinks of them.  Not sure where you get you info but it's way off.  MOST americans couldn't care less.

btw... are you saying that to be good they have to care?  That's a load of crap.
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Post by: mauser on July 21, 2004, 01:39:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mighty1
I look at it like this...does France not liking me change my job? Family? friends?

No!

So why should I care?

Most hard working Americans have better things to do then to sit around worrying about what some whiney bellybutton country thinks of us.

Am I in the minority? Don't think so.


What he said.  My job, my family, working on my newly acquired home take up my entire day - and has for several years now that I've gotten out of school.  Honestly, I've got more important and pressing matters to think about than international relations.   And I wouldn't be upset one bit if it were the same way for other people around the world.  

Then again, I just realized my answer to this thread seems to make too much sense.  Gotta do a hook check... then after that...

mauser
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Post by: FUNKED1 on July 21, 2004, 01:47:10 PM
SAW IS NOT FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's Dutch.

Nice troll Tardiac!!!  :D
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Post by: Maniac on July 21, 2004, 01:50:00 PM
:aok
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Post by: lazs2 on July 21, 2004, 02:19:03 PM
banana... let's put this in perspective... I am sure that Americans care what people think of us but....

Do yu think they would want to be loved and part of the "global" society if it say.... cost em 10 cents extra a gallon of gas?    5 cents?    How bout the UN controlling our armies?   World court?  

lazs
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Post by: Saurdaukar on July 21, 2004, 02:29:26 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
Its great to be seeing you American citizens caring what the rest of the world thinks about you.

In the past you couldnt care less, its great that this is truly changing.

We have to give a big to the Internet for making this possible. People have the tool to enlighten themselfs now and get in touch with citizens from other countrys with other views and angles.

Having internet available in the US is djust as important as having internet available to the Chinese citizens.

for your changing efforts Americans, i apriciate it alot.


Troll with training wheels.

(Psst:  We dont give two ****s what y'all think.  If it flies, it dies.  Mwahahaha!!)
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Post by: mosgood on July 21, 2004, 02:39:13 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
That's BS.  There are a lot of "good" american people that don't give a rats rear what the rest of the world thinks of them.  Not sure where you get you info but it's way off.  MOST americans couldn't care less.

btw... are you saying that to be good they have to care?  That's a load of crap.


A TROLL!!!!

Damn... so that means I got hooked by the guy that got hooked???


that sucks!
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on July 21, 2004, 03:03:20 PM
"Most Americans" this, "Most Americans" that...

Damn, you guys obviously have millions of friends. I am now depressed I only have a handful.

Tell you what, I'll stick to talking about the Americans I know and you all stick to talking about the Americans you know and leave this "most" bull**** alone because there isn't one American that knows what "most" Americans think.

Hell, I don't even care if "most" Americans like me - they can kiss my bellybutton if they don't.
-SW
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Post by: cpxxx on July 21, 2004, 04:13:09 PM
Grunherz, China has already begun to suck up all the oil.  Perhaps in the end they will go and sort out the Middle East when the extremists try to take charge.

I agree that most Americans care little for what the rest of the world thinks of them.  Most countries are the same. But even before 911 many ordinary Americans I met felt much of the world hated America. They knew why too.  But too many Americans couldn't understand why they were attacked that September morning. It hardly matters what people in Europe think of America. But it does matter what Arabs think and most of them seem to hate America.  The 'war on terror' is the result. The Homeland Security Dept and all those new laws and the security scares are directly related to what some foreigners think of America.   Not caring isn't an option anymore.
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on July 21, 2004, 04:37:19 PM
Saw is Belgian
:)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 21, 2004, 04:47:47 PM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Saw is Belgian
:)


Belgian, whats that? Some sort of German/French half breed like the Dutch?





































:D
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Post by: ra on July 21, 2004, 05:23:27 PM
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But too many Americans couldn't understand why they were attacked that September morning.

Please explain it to us, we are listening.
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Post by: Saintaw on July 21, 2004, 05:25:57 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Not to mention both of your are French..

HEY!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS NOW !!! ;)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 21, 2004, 05:26:41 PM
Why do you hate the French saw?
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Post by: AKIron on July 21, 2004, 05:26:50 PM
It's pretty plain why a lot of middle easterners hate the US. They fear freedom. Others that despise us do so because they have been led to believe we are out to impose our will upon them. No mystery here.

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Originally posted by cpxxx
Grunherz, China has already begun to suck up all the oil.  Perhaps in the end they will go and sort out the Middle East when the extremists try to take charge.

I agree that most Americans care little for what the rest of the world thinks of them.  Most countries are the same. But even before 911 many ordinary Americans I met felt much of the world hated America. They knew why too.  But too many Americans couldn't understand why they were attacked that September morning. It hardly matters what people in Europe think of America. But it does matter what Arabs think and most of them seem to hate America.  The 'war on terror' is the result. The Homeland Security Dept and all those new laws and the security scares are directly related to what some foreigners think of America.   Not caring isn't an option anymore.
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Post by: cpxxx on July 21, 2004, 05:55:38 PM
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Originally posted by ra
Please explain it to us, we are listening.


What Akiron said but you knew that.
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Post by: demaw1 on July 21, 2004, 09:11:41 PM
I dont get it, America is the only country in the history of the world,that could have ruled the world...all of it.And yet we rebuilt it instead.Is everyone mad at us because we didnt do what most of your countries tried to do at one time or another in history?
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Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on July 21, 2004, 09:15:23 PM
Do you take the yellow bus to this message board demaw1? Wait, thats stupid... I never should have put that in the form of a question.
-SW
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Post by: Torque on July 21, 2004, 11:20:23 PM
Wulfie, your recent antics are cracking me up. Btw what happen to Creamo.?
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Post by: NUKE on July 21, 2004, 11:31:27 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
People have the tool to enlighten themselfs now and get in touch with citizens from other countrys with other views and angles.

 


hehehe :)

I wonder what other nation has a more diverse culture filled with citizens from other countries and of different cultures and views?

You say the internet is the tool used to enlighten us? Well we created the internet, so maybe it could be viewed the other way around. Maybe America, being so diverse and tolerent of other cultures and religion, fostered the environment which created the internet and which is now enlightening the world.
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Post by: Saintaw on July 22, 2004, 01:09:34 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why do you hate the French saw?

Except for Straffo :)

I don't "hate" them, but I do find them to be very "chauvinists" (like you, Americans), and that gets on my nerves. Your two nations are actualy very close regarding that.

It's also geneticaly engineered, we love the French as much as the English do :D
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Post by: Saintaw on July 22, 2004, 01:10:14 AM
SW, is it me, or is you sig getting longer everyday?
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 22, 2004, 01:58:25 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
SW, is it me, or is you sig getting longer everyday?


I had him double it just today.. :)
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Post by: Maniac on July 22, 2004, 02:12:47 AM
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Well we created the internet, so maybe it could be viewed the other way around. Maybe America, being so diverse and tolerent of other cultures and religion, fostered the environment which created the internet and which is now enlightening the world.


Nice troll.
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Post by: straffo on July 22, 2004, 02:20:56 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why do you hate the French saw?


Because a contrario to most of the anti-French poster in the O'club he lives among them.
So he know why and how to hate the French (I do also).
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Post by: straffo on July 22, 2004, 02:22:50 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
hehehe :)

I wonder what other nation has a more diverse culture filled with citizens from other countries and of different cultures and views?
 


France.

Now seriously do you thing in Europe we're not aware of the differences with our neightbour ?
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on July 22, 2004, 02:32:27 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
Because a contrario to most of the anti-French poster in the O'club he lives among them.
So he know why and how to hate the French (I do also).


I know the french well, I could smell them from 35,000 feet above as I flew to Croatia a few years ago...
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Post by: ramzey on July 22, 2004, 03:01:14 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I know the french well, I could smell them from 35,000 feet above as I flew to Croatia a few years ago...


you sure somone dont trow out burger  in front of the plane?:D
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Post by: DipStick on July 22, 2004, 03:03:04 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I know the french well, I could smell them from 35,000 feet above as I flew to Croatia a few years ago...

Ooooooooooooooh that's foul!

PS... What Crumb said.
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Post by: straffo on July 22, 2004, 03:45:35 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I know the french well, I could smell them from 35,000 feet above as I flew to Croatia a few years ago...


Me think you shouldn't remove your shoes in a plane especially after the Richard Reed affair :)
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Post by: Saintaw on July 22, 2004, 04:11:09 AM
I wonder what Croatian cheese smells like. nothing stinks as much as "Herve" cheese.
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Post by: Maniac on July 22, 2004, 07:02:41 AM
This thread turned out really good!

I posted it with a big smile on my face!

:D
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Post by: Wanker on July 22, 2004, 07:50:50 AM
Don't you people ever read any history?

We will reap what we sow. We are now in a period of time where America is the most powerful country in the world. We are also the most arrogant.  And yet we are not self sufficient in supplying the oil energy that we consume every day.

I never said we should let the U.N. control our destiny or our armed forces. I never said we should bend over backwards to make people love us or to be part of some mythical "world village".  Nice try to paint me as some stupid hippy liberal, though.

What we *do* need to be aware of, is that we are in a global economy, and it's important for us to maintain friendly relations with as many countries as possible. It will pay dividends in the future.

Y'all talk real manly about telling the world that we'll do whatever we please, thankyouverymuch. But what happens if we piss the Russians and Saudi's off by continuing to invade countries, and they cut our supply of oil off? Are we just going to go in and take over their countries to protect our oil? If we did that, we would be no better than the Japanese in 1941.  FDR cut the Japanese off from their deliveries of oil, which gave the army imperialists the excuse to take the southern route and invade the oil rich Dutch East Indies.

This is a serious issue which we best not take too lightly.  We are on the crest of the American wave, and we refuse to think about the day when we are no longer the world powerhouse we are today. One has to only go as far back as the British "Pax Britannica" period of the mid-19th century to learn some valuable lessons about world domination and the dangers of ignoring the future.

BTW, where's Miko2d when you need him?
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Post by: Mighty1 on July 22, 2004, 10:33:53 AM
The sky is falling the sky is falling........
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Post by: demaw1 on July 22, 2004, 07:49:34 PM
Aks re: bus

 sorry aks when i was little i had to walk as we couldnt afford the fare. now do you have anything intellegent to say or the bus still bummin you out?

banana re: crest of wave

 I think we are on the downhill side of that wave. i have seen many people in here say America is arrogant,since I think your post was reasonable can you explain how America is arrogant ?