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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: StSanta on November 29, 2000, 08:25:00 AM
How can I not respect you?

You bravely turn your tail and run!

Using the supermegaincredible endurance, at first glance of equality in e, even with a FW190A8; extend, run! For the love of god; a co alt co e fight vs ANY plane is BAD!

And indeed it is; for it requires afterthought and skill. Why use such unnecessary things when your speed and endurance removes the need?

Indeed, fight only on your terms always - this is sound tactics. Never ever get co alt with an enemy that you outturn, outroll at high speeds, outclimb and win HO's with.

Aye, it is with great respect I utter these words; never before has so much been achieved with the use of so little tactics and so small balls has so much been done by the Aces High P-51 "Latex Lady" bimbo drivers.

So, with a feeling of awe in my mind, this poor 190A8 driver produces this, for your enjyoment and pleasure.

<FINGER>

THE WAR IS ON! HORRIDO DEM SIEGER! DIE ALLIERTE SCHEINHUNDE!

 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: hblair on November 29, 2000, 08:28:00 AM
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! You tell 'em! Pony drivers are all pantiy waist wussies! True men fly Luftwaffe Iron!!

<turns tail and runs like a girlie man>
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: straffo on November 29, 2000, 08:29:00 AM
ya upset stsanta ?
grab another beer^h^h^h^hCarlsberg  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: funked on November 29, 2000, 08:37:00 AM
Just wait for the D-9 with MW 50 MUAAAAAAAHAHA!!!

PS, to us Spit V pilots, you are ALL RUNNING PANSIES!!!

(Except for Zekes, they are T&B Dweebs)

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 09:24:00 AM
*YAWN*

Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: RAM on November 29, 2000, 09:30:00 AM
Santa, you are right. To find decent P51 drivers who **know** how to **fight** (I say fight, that doesnt include the dive-fire burst-climb-buh-bye) in their ride is VERY strange.

The only one I've ever found is Hangtime. Maybe there are more but I've never met them...

All the rest only played the If-I-come-co-E-I-run game. Pissing, but when you see that, you know that you won another fight... (he who remains in the battlefield is the victor   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))

Oh, an the plane I most saw hugin ack was...yeah you guessed it, the pony.


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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Rickenbacker on November 29, 2000, 09:41:00 AM
Damn santa, see if I'll ever dive in to clear your tail in my "latex lady" again.

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: popeye on November 29, 2000, 10:20:00 AM
Had the great pleasure to run away from a Pony in my Yak the other night.  It was almost....poetic.    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 10:26:00 AM
Thats funny Popeye (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ahh...Ram and Santa...birds of a feather.

Some things never change (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ice
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Midnight on November 29, 2000, 11:01:00 AM
Such bad feelings on this subject.

Look here Santa, I respect the 190-A8, I despise the 190-D9. Both are tough planes and I guess you all deserve them if that's what you want to fly.

As for your comments, how else is the P-51D supposed to fly in the MA? It was built the way it was so it could escort long range bombers and kill LW birds at high altitude and high speed. At this mission, it excelled.

Unfortunately, in the MA there is very seldom high altitude bomber formations to escort, therefore it is in the P-51's best interest to stay high and fast a long as possible. If it is getting low or slow, it is time to extend and re-gain the advantage.

Why do you put flying smart in the same catagory as running and hiding? Do you keep your A8 in the fight when you know it has been compromised? Probably not.

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 11:13:00 AM
Hiyas Midnight (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Don't waste your time....these guys can only kill a 51 if it's parked. Their mentality is if you don't fight their fight, your a coward.

You will see them dead in your buffer long before they'll see you in theirs (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

They are proud LW...big heads...big mouths and lotsa cheap talk.

Cyas up! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ice
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: StSanta on November 29, 2000, 11:27:00 AM
BAH!

You couldn't fight your way out of a girl scout meeting, you P-51 drivers.

You don't even dare to fight the 190A8, a plane that has inferior performance in most areas.

Pantsy wussie allies, I tell ya!

And now I am gonna find me a P-51 that is "parked" d200 in front of me 10k up in the air   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

HORRIDO DEM SIEGER! LW PILOTS UNITE!

BTW Midnight, seriously I know what you're saying. I am just trying to get into the proper antagonistic mood.

But don't tell anyone I said that  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Duckwing6 on November 29, 2000, 11:28:00 AM
WOAAAA SANTA !!!

Now that's a BIG one !!! Let him loose some of his E .. yea easy easy .. there he's starting to wallow like a struck Pig!!
now .. NOW

REEELLLLL 'EM ALL IN  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Tzk tzk tzk
always this sportive fishing game

DW6
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 11:33:00 AM
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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Wardog on November 29, 2000, 11:34:00 AM
The p51s i run into engage in combat.. guess what.. The 109 drive dont engage even with a 4k alt advantage, they run away with alt advantage and come back with an 8k advantage.

This bores the crap outa me, none engaging 109 pilots so ill just land the damn plane & come up another field with alt and kill em.

<S> p51 pilots for fighting the fight.. As for non engaging 109 drives, enjoy the fresh air at 30k cause that all your gona see.

Dog out....
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Lephturn on November 29, 2000, 12:01:00 PM
Hey Kettle, I think the Pot is talkin' to you...

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Lephturn - Chief Trainer
A member of The Flying Pigs  http://www.flyingpigs.com (http://www.flyingpigs.com)
"A pig is a jolly companion,
Boar, sow, barrow, or gilt --
A pig is a pal, who'll boost your morale,
Though mountains may topple and tilt.
When they've blackballed, bamboozled, and burned you,
When they've turned on you, Tory and Whig,
Though you may be thrown over by Tabby and Rover,
You'll never go wrong with a pig, a pig,
You'll never go wrong with a pig!"
-- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow"
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: hblair on November 29, 2000, 12:05:00 PM
Santa, look what you've gone and done here! Even WD is dissin' the 109.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Oh well, I forgive, I know these pony pilots are some of the best, and they know how to hurt you. I might even take up the pony for a sortie or two.

I flew a heavy P47 last night, killed a couple acks, a hangar, then killed a couple of planes. I soon discovered the P47 was as heavy on the deck as it oughta be (not like last version). What a challenge! Can't do all that in my G10.
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 29, 2000, 12:25:00 PM
Hmm... wheres all those films of me whooping on the 13th TAS time after time when they had alt on me and I was lower? ;p

LW pilots are superior and win in outclassed aircraft!

Dummkoffs!

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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 (http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/sig.gif)

"It felt as if an angel was pushing..."
-Reponse of Gen. Adolf Galland after flying the fourth prototype Me 262 in May 1943.

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: AKDejaVu on November 29, 2000, 12:29:00 PM
<snif>...

I remember the days when runstang threads ran rampant.

<snif>

Ah.. memories.

AKDejaVu
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: StSanta on November 29, 2000, 01:20:00 PM
As I thought; the allied dweebs are getting desperate, attacking 109's.

I'm an a8 driver now, so that stuff can't hurt me.

Poor little 51 runstangs.

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: RAM on November 29, 2000, 02:04:00 PM
StSanta on V1.02:

"Fw190s are for sissy pilots"


StSanta on V1.04:

"I am now an A8 driver"
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Heheh nice metamorphosis,Stsanta...at this pace in 1.06 you will be a F4U1-C dweeb

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Yeager on November 29, 2000, 02:26:00 PM
I find the P51 difficult to use one on one in a close-in fight against G10s.  Ten times out of ten, the G10 goes vertical and usually wins (against me) with a better engine, tremendous rudder capability and vastly more potent armament.  This is why I prefer to fight them on my terms.  Usually from above and with superior numbers.  Speed is tricky and less useful since the G10 can outpace a lone 51 extending.  All other 109s dont seem to cause too much trouble.

190s arent a problem.

Yeager
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: bloom25 on November 29, 2000, 02:51:00 PM
I've found that the easiest planes to kill in the p51 are those that don't roll well at high speed.  Usually you can land a few hits with the anemic 50 cal, but then the bogey will start scissoring like crazy.  The planes that can't roll well (109, spit, p38) are usually unable to break away before the 50s have done serious damage to them.  The problem is that 109g10s can climb away from you if you don't get them on the first pass.  I'll usually continue to push the fight very aggressively, since they hold all the important advantages if you mess up on the bounce.  190s I'll fight co-e without hesitation, all they can do is out gun and out roll you.  If you can manage to slow down and let them scissor to their heart's content without overshooting them, they usually go down without too much trouble.  The N1k and Zero can give a p51 driver fits.  (At least me.)  If they are not alone and are paying attention, they can always evade your passes.  (This is when I wish I were flying a Yak or La5 so I could have an acceleration advantage.)

I have great respect for pilots who do well in the 190 and 109.  The 190 takes forever to get good altitude, and the 109 has little ammo and tricky handling.  The successful LW drivers are, if anything, far more patient than I could ever be.  (At least with the p51 when you make a mistake your tail or radiator is lost with the first ping.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )  I still believe the 109g10 is probably the best plane in the game, if flown correctly.  Like the p51, a patient pilot can get out of a fight if they wish.  In the 109s case though, usually they will have an advantage in altitude and can come back down and kill you.  In the p51 you would have to run ... *um* "extend" (range advantage helps here  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) until the enemy loses interest in you.  If you still have fuel you can then climb up, and come back again.

Ok, I'm done rambling.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: StSanta on November 29, 2000, 03:46:00 PM
RAM; I never called 190A8 drivers sissy; I called them suicidal.

To a spaniard like you I bet the two sound similar. And with your machoism, sissy = suicide  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 04:14:00 PM
Nath (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

You should have never posted your pic....I just can't seem to take ya seriously (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Ice
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: washedup on November 29, 2000, 04:28:00 PM
StSanta,

Not all pony drivers run.  I upped this morning in a pony from a base that was being attacked by a B17 covered by a niki and a P51.  I killed all three AND I was under E to them all the time.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

PS Bring on the Luftwobble planes any day... More targets <duck and cover>
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Hangtime on November 29, 2000, 04:40:00 PM
Nice troll Santa. <S!>

Truth is; I fly like crap. I get into places only my Bimbo Babe can pull me outta. Usually I just have to wait fer the other guy to mess up and then take a pound of flesh on my way outta dodge.

Sadly; with the pilot quality increasing so fast lately, my pound of flesh is being given; not taken.

*sigh* Guess I'll have to start hangin around in the TA to get a kill.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Oh, BTW Santa; yer slave built A8 is history should I find you AFK, takin a dump in the next room, with the sound off and I get three passes.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Tell Nath I log now when i see him on line. (hehehhehhe)

Hang


 
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Torque on November 29, 2000, 05:04:00 PM
You should have never posted your pic....I just can't seem to take ya seriously

Ice
you too eh, sorry funny.

Talk about running gurlymen that's all studmuffin09s do such wussies except fer HB and Drex and Saw.

Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: hazed- on November 29, 2000, 05:14:00 PM
Santa you always cheer me up with your posts  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
'brave sir robin' has clued me in to why i like yer humour  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

'Nice one centurion!' <S>


hazed  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Spatula on November 29, 2000, 06:21:00 PM
Boooohooooo, i just cry when an enemy uses the strengths of their planes - thats just not fair. DWEEEEB!!! I hate all those 109s that 'just spiral climb up to saftey' or 'out climb me' - boooohoooo...

Come on Santa, P51 pilots dont have all the same options a 109 pilot does and vice-versa. 109s cant run from ponies, ponies cant climb with 109s. I dont start a thread abusing 109 pilots cause they use their superior climb rate to win the day.

I recall many a very good fight me vs you (pony vs 109) you climb when you're in trouble, i have to use the speed of the pony - same thing.

BIG <SALUTE> to all the die-hard-core P51 fanatics who stick with it through thick and thin irrespective of the latest uber dweeb ride - you know who you are.


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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 29, 2000, 06:49:00 PM
 
Quote
You should have never posted your pic....I just can't seem to take ya seriously

i know, im just too secksi.
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 29, 2000, 06:57:00 PM
o, heres one:
 http://pobox2.zyan.com/~nath/films/2v1hangtime.ahf (http://pobox2.zyan.com/~nath/films/2v1hangtime.ahf)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: av8or on November 29, 2000, 08:34:00 PM
There is not much that i can say about this thread, but all i can say is that i am a decent pilot by far not the best (most of the people in this thread have killed me several times) but i have tried every plane in aces high to date.I find every plane to be useful in its own role and ever plane in every war i built for a certain role. 51's were built to be fast and fight high, not to turn fight personally i think the roll and turn stinks in the 51 but that is my opinion and i don't force opinions on anyone and that is all i see in these kinds of posts someone trying to force there opinions on everyone else. fly your plane and don't complain.     AV8
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 29, 2000, 09:37:00 PM
Nath....if that was a 2v1, who is Gunthr?

Nice try slick...I'll run my cam against every 190 and post them just for you babe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Keep tryin....someday you'll learn how to fly that thing instead of just wigglin the stick. Nice gunnery tho (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Bye Bye!

Ice
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 29, 2000, 09:59:00 PM
Ummm... Gunthr came into the fight after i already had gotten firing solution on Hangtime. I fought them from 13k to the deck THEN gunthr came.

Your guys must suck bad if my just 'wiggling the stick' made them keep missing and eventually leading to Hangtimes demise and another kill recorded on the rudder of my Gustav.

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: StSanta on November 30, 2000, 02:22:00 AM
Heheheh this thread is getting good.

Boo Spatula, whine to baby plane 109 boys, not me; ou will occasionally find me "spiral climbing" in the 190A8 but it usually only lasts til the enemy can control his laughter and get guns on me    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

I need to get better in the A8 though. The 51's easy prey in the G10 in few vs few engagements are way too fast for the A8.

And I'm REALLY hating this "uh oh the 190 is only 1k below me I better make a HO,. run like hell til he low on fuel then turn around and thwap him on the head when he's trying to rtb" tactics    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). Died a few times to it.

And no, I won't give up chasing P-51's. That's like asking a dog to give up chasing cars - sure it's stupid but it's inherent in me    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

But for all of you P-51 drivers, here's the complete lyrics:

"Bravely bold Sir Robin
brought forth from Camelot
He was not afraid to die
Oh brave Sir Robin
He was not at all afraid
to be killed in nasty ways
Brave brave brave brave Sir Robin

He was not a least bit scared
to be mashed into a pulp
Or to have his eyes dug out and his elbows broken
to have his kneecaps split and his body burned away
and his limbs all hacked and mangled brave Sir Robin
his head smashed in and his heart cut out
and his liver removed and bowels unplugged
and his nostrils raped and his nostrils burnt up
and his noodle...

<Sir Robin>"that's...that's enough music for now lads"

Brave Sir Robin ran away
bravely ran away away
When danger reared its ugly head
he bravely turned his tail and fled
brave Sir Robin turned about
apparently he chickened out
bravely taking to the feet
he beat a very brave retreat
brave because of BRAAAVE Sir Robin

To quote Duma quoting Hristos:

"TAKE THAT OPPORTUNISTS!"
   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
 
Gonna check copyright issues and see if I can up an mp3 otherwise, there is little Napster for..uhm...browsing.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
while(!bishRookQueue.isEmpty() && loggedOn()){
30mmDeathDIEDIEDIE(bishRookQueue.removeFront());
System.out.println("LW pilots are superior");
myPlane.performVictoryRoll();
}

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Duckwing6 on November 30, 2000, 02:32:00 AM
I've posted that song before Santa if ya want i'll send it too you mate  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Luke Skywalker on November 30, 2000, 03:18:00 AM
Well I haven't seen many P51s on the Main Arena. The few ones I have seen were higher than me, but that is my problem, not theirs, right?...

I hate to be lower than them...but then again, its my fault, not theirs   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


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Hey, dont shoot me! I'm on the light side!!
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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 30, 2000, 09:28:00 AM
Ahhh...I see.

Well, I took the time to look-up how badly you were kickin our tails....

nathbdp has 7 kills and has been killed 5 times against the ice squad.

Considering you are harder to find being just one little turd, and we, being a squad of older , more mature and handsome lads, I think we hold our own quite nicely  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Nice try!

Ice  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

PS...ice has 1 kill and has been killed 0 times against nathbdp.

Sorry, I don't have the cool films like you do...I'll try and remember to turn it on...you understand, me being old and simple minded.

Ltr



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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: BaneX on November 30, 2000, 11:41:00 AM
Hmmm.. lets see the only time I remember getting killed by Nath he had a good 10k advantage on me in a 205 other than that I don't think I've seen him at all  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Bane
13th TAS
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 30, 2000, 12:41:00 PM
Come on Ice, you have to play the game more than a couple hours a day to get some good films.

Anyway, thats beside the point. You changing the emphasis of your post must mean you agree that I kicked Hangtime and thunders arse in 2v1. ;p

thx, drive through.


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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 (http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/sig.gif)

"It felt as if an angel was pushing..."
-Reponse of Gen. Adolf Galland after flying the fourth prototype Me 262 in May 1943.

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Ice on November 30, 2000, 04:15:00 PM
I think having a big head is a dangerous thing...I don't think you kicked anyones arse, rather Hang slipped up and you got lucky in that you got the shot and had help with Thunder. Now I understand that when you're young, your chest sticks out further than when old and seasoned and many I respect have spoken highly of you and your skills. Still, I look forward to the day when we meet...I have learned that being humbled is a healthy thing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Cyas in the MA hotshot!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ice

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Thunder on November 30, 2000, 05:17:00 PM
Young NathBDP! May I remind you in TOUR 10 that Thunder has Killed NathBDP 3 times and NathBDP has killed Thunder 2 times. Not Exactly walking all over 13th TAS! Or would you like a re-count! Maybe HTC has a few dimpled KILL Ballots you are hoping for! I only fly a P-51 and that lil 109G and your other rides are usually TURNERS! You got some good moves but you AIN'T imortal yet!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) <S>

Thunder
13TAS
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Rodney on November 30, 2000, 05:20:00 PM
G'day,

Not sure if it's been posted before, but check out www.montypython.net (http://www.montypython.net)  for some mp3 wav's and such. Great site!

Cheers,


Rod
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Thunder on November 30, 2000, 07:00:00 PM
NathBDP,
You're are excellent pilot and I respect your flying ability! You fly that 109G10
as well as any in the game. But I still
feel the need to poke some fun at you! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

<S>
Thunder
 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/nathspoof.jpg)  

 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/texted.jpg)  

Another scalp on my belt!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 30, 2000, 07:05:00 PM
hahahahah

You saved my pic, laff, that shows how important I am to you, I took that pic off my FTP server a couple weeks ago...
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Hangtime on November 30, 2000, 07:08:00 PM
LOL... I recall that fight.. tho I have not checked the films.

Grunz bolted; left Nath alone and unprotected down low; tangoing with Thunder. I let Grunz go (he just kept grabbin away); and came down to give 'ol Thunder a hand. Thunder was doin the B n Z bit; I rolled my sleeves up and saddled that 109 up. Hammered away at him; but between poor aim and messed up gun dispersion I was unable to make it stick. After a spectacular scissors reverse move on naths part (He does stuff in a 109 I've never seen anyone else in any plane do..) I lost the saddle and went defensive.

I recall starting an extension/drag to set him up for Thunders comeback, but that's when soccer-boy Grunz showed up again... and Thunder was off about d3; assuming I had Nath bagged; gettin set for Grunz. If I remember that one right; I augered... mad as hell. I always get pissed when my wingie wanders away... not Thunders fault tho, he ahd problems of his own. The fault mine; for missing Nath.

Nath, ol son; you fly a hell of a fight. Don't ever recall besting you.. in any circumstances. I have a healthy respect for you abilities, but repectfully suggest that the edge of the envelope you nomally fly in is well beyond my poor abilities to track or visualise.

In essence I think I'm flying an airplane; bound by the laws of physics and the dynamics of flight. Your evasive patterns and manuver profiles defy all of those basic precepts that are ingrained in me by the dogma of air combat as I know it.. you bring something new to the fight.

You seem to flying in a diffrent medium than air; in a vehicle unbound by stress dynamics (roll rate reversals and direction changes that are beyond the flight capabilities of anything I ever saw fly) which I must in lack of knowledge attribute to my poor frame rate; poor grahics; poor processor and the vagaries of a 56k modem connect. Or it could be just my tired old eyes and slow as pork old man reflexes.

<S!> Nath. Nice job.

Hang

Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 30, 2000, 07:10:00 PM
just fyi, the 109G10 and 190A8 aren't exactly turners.

All those kills you have against me aren't when I was fighting you, rather you shot me when I wasn't paying attention to you.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Thats cool though, cuz I know by heart that all the times I've encountered 13th TAS at disadvantage I've won... I recall a fight around A29 area a few weeks ago where I was chasing thunder on the deck then Yeager came up behind me (was 2v1 from the get go), I killed Yeager then dispatched thunder.  I'm sure you remember this.

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Nath_____
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
 (http://www.angelfire.com/nt/regoch/sig.gif)

"It felt as if an angel was pushing..."
-Reponse of Gen. Adolf Galland after flying the fourth prototype Me 262 in May 1943.

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Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Nath-BDP on November 30, 2000, 07:13:00 PM
<S> Hang... imo this thread was conceived to start a bs contest. ;p

Talking a bit of smack never hurt anyone.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: washedup on November 30, 2000, 07:46:00 PM
Where oh where did this thread get hijacked?  I thought it was about our valiant pony riding brethren...
Title: Brave Sir Robin P-51 drivers
Post by: Hangtime on November 30, 2000, 08:32:00 PM
LOL Washed-Up.. yer right. It started out as a lament against ponys that run; but turned into a chest thumpin, using films of ponys that didn't.

Oh well.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)