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Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Blixen on July 22, 2004, 06:22:25 PM
(http://www.todo-aviones.com.ar/francia/d520/DW520.jpg)   says its a d520 any got info on it what country?
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Karnak on July 22, 2004, 06:23:59 PM
It is French.  Probably the best French fighter of WWII and had the highest one month production totals of any aircraft in WWII.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Blixen on July 22, 2004, 06:26:44 PM
thanks maybe ht should add it since theres no french fighters:)
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: ra on July 22, 2004, 06:30:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
It is French.  Probably the best French fighter of WWII and had the highest one month production totals of any aircraft in WWII.

What does that mean?
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Krusty on July 22, 2004, 06:31:55 PM
You forget....


Quote
Probably the best French fighter of WWII


Doesn't mean it could do jack squat :P

I remember in "The Royal Air Force at War" it mentions a sortie of a single hurricane over France as the war opened. It was attacked by about half a dozen of these and none of them touched it.


If six of the buggers can't take a single hurc mk1 when they have the advantage, I don't want it in AH2, lmao!
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Blixen on July 22, 2004, 06:34:19 PM
found this this ***** climbs to 13 in 5 minhttp://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/dewod520.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/dewod520.html)
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Karnak on July 22, 2004, 06:44:01 PM
Krusty,

Not true. The D.520 gave a very good accounting of itself in the Battle of France.

IIRC it could do 320mph and was armed with one Hispano MK I 20mm cannon and two 7.7mm machine guns.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: J_A_B on July 22, 2004, 07:03:59 PM
D.520 fits in nicely with other 1940-era aircraft.  It also saw some use resisting operation TORCH against F4F's if I'm not mistaken.


It would be hopelessly outclassed in the MA but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be added.   I think it would be a good thing to add.


J_A_B
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Blixen on July 22, 2004, 07:11:19 PM
rgr that siad it was used by germans and italians aswell would be good historical fighter:aok:aok
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Angus on July 23, 2004, 05:17:26 AM
Necessary for battle of France scenarios.
A good addition for early North African  scenarios, then fighting for the other side (Vichy)
An addition for Finland (They had some)
Remember, this is a very nimble early-war plane with a nose Cannon....
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 25, 2004, 01:38:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
You forget....


 

Doesn't mean it could do jack squat :P

I remember in "The Royal Air Force at War" it mentions a sortie of a single hurricane over France as the war opened. It was attacked by about half a dozen of these and none of them touched it.


If six of the buggers can't take a single hurc mk1 when they have the advantage, I don't want it in AH2, lmao!


S. Sakai dodged 15 f6fs in his zeke ... F6 sucks:D
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: gripen on July 25, 2004, 03:43:14 AM
Angus,
Finland had no D.520 but MS.406s.

gripen
Title: Re: found pics of this plane
Post by: ramzey on July 25, 2004, 04:47:25 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Blixen
(http://www.todo-aviones.com.ar/francia/d520/DW520.jpg)   says its a d520 any got info on it what country?


Devotine D520 ;) used during Battle of france , get several victories.
This picture show D520 captured by LW and used for tranning in many LW traning units ( about 100 of them).
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: rogerdee on July 25, 2004, 05:11:31 AM
some  of  these  aircraft  also flew  with the  romanian air force along  with  hurricans  me109s  and  russian aircraft.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Flyboy on July 25, 2004, 05:18:46 AM
pretty plane, looks alot like the yak.

(http://www.vvs-regia-avions.com/Avions/D520-026.jpg)
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Angus on July 25, 2004, 06:49:33 AM
"Angus,
Finland had no D.520 but MS.406s.

gripen"

Sorry, got them mixed.
Was close though.

Do you have more info on the Ms 406?
Title: Re: found pics of this plane
Post by: HoHun on July 25, 2004, 07:29:54 AM
Hi Blixen,

>says its a d520 any got info on it what country?

Eric Brown in "Testing for Combat" commented on the D.520.

Features:

- RPM automatically regulated by throttle
- 1 20 mm engine cannon, 4 7.5 mm wing machine guns

Advantages:

- Good performance
- Climb rate comparable to or better than Me 109E

Disadvantages:

- Automatic RPM control leads to overspeeding in dives
- Engine cuts out under negative G
- Poor yaw stability on power changes or turbulence -> poor gunnery platform
- Elevator trim gets stuck at high diving speeds
- Abrupt stall with virtually no warning
- Difficult spin recovery
- Poor rudder effectiveness before touchdown
- Tendency for ground loops due to wide landing gear
- Speed inferior to Me 109E

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Staga on July 25, 2004, 07:56:18 AM
WWIIOL has Dewoitine D.520 modelled; Not the best plane down low but with little alt it's quite similar with Bf109E and I even gave a 109F hard times with it before that 109 dived away :)
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Cerceuilvolant on July 25, 2004, 11:50:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
You forget....


 

Doesn't mean it could do jack squat :P

I remember in "The Royal Air Force at War" it mentions a sortie of a single hurricane over France as the war opened. It was attacked by about half a dozen of these and none of them touched it.


If six of the buggers can't take a single hurc mk1 when they have the advantage, I don't want it in AH2, lmao!


Strange, the first D520s were fully operationnal in April 1940 :aok
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: Thrawn on July 25, 2004, 02:01:19 PM
Geez, it would be nice if HTC added this plane soon.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: SELECTOR on July 25, 2004, 06:10:38 PM
you cant use the words "French" and "fighter" in the same sentence.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: gripen on July 25, 2004, 06:12:15 PM
Angus,
In fact I don't know any good book on the MS.406 written in english. There  is one good book written in French but I can't remember the name. "Lentäjän Näkökulma II" by Jukka Raunio contains a good chapter on the MS.406 but it's written in Finnish.

gripen
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: eilif on July 26, 2004, 05:23:53 PM
kinda reminds me of a cross between a yak and a corsair, since the cockpit is so far back, must have quite the engine.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: GScholz on July 26, 2004, 07:38:51 PM
SELECTOR, stop trolling.
Title: found pics of this plane
Post by: GScholz on July 26, 2004, 07:40:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eilif
kinda reminds me of a cross between a yak and a corsair, since the cockpit is so far back, must have quite the engine.


Probably has the fuel tank between the engine and cockpit like in the F4U.