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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on July 22, 2004, 11:06:44 PM
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Having been here a week, I have a question...
Why does it seem that everyone employed in the service industries (janitors, housekeeping, maids, gardener's, etc.), are Mexican?
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Same in California and Arizona......wonder what they all have in common?
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Originally posted by NUKE
Same in California and Arizona......wonder what they all have in common?
I'm a California native. It's not this obvious. Plenty of non-Hispanics cleaning toilets.
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Im a California native as well. If they are not hispanics, they probably are Asian. At least the Asians are more likely to be legal citizens.
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Do you mean Mexican or do you mean Hispanic, Sandman?
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Mexican is a subset of Hispanic... I should rephrase my first post to Hispanic as I am unsure of their origin.
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Sand, what part of Texas?
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Dallas/Fort Worth
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Really common in Amarillo.
My honest opinon is no one else wants to work that hard for little pay.
Out of my 15 years of living here, I have yet to see a white construction worker.
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Well, like California, Texas was settled by Mexicans. The resident population of American hispanics is very high, and the number of legal and illegal Mexicans and Central/South Americans is also high. Depending upon the circles you run in, you will see just as many middle class and wealthy Hispanics as you will see mowing the yard. In short, it is Tejas, what do you expect amigo?
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Texas has a VERY large border with Mexico, as does Arizona. Texas has about 5 billion little towns in and around the border. Makes for an attractive entry point I'd bet.
About 500,000 sneak across the southern border each year, and I would guess many are going through Texas.
Chit, Texas has so many small towns and roads connecting them, it's almost sickening.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Mexican is a subset of Hispanic... I should rephrase my first post to Hispanic as I am unsure of their origin.
Sand....because I like you I will educate you like a coworker of mine did once.
Hispanic really means being of hispanic origin....meaning the island of hispanolia (SP) that means you are either puerto rican or domincan republic.
I'm not sure how much truth it holds but he corrects everyone in the shop he hears use that phrase.
On another note...i'm not sure were the term "latino" comes from because my simple mind equates that to Latin....and not to spain or mexico.
Anyhow....mexicans work alot of those jobs in Arizona texas and S cali because they are hard workers and not ashamed to make an honest buck by cleaning a toilet.
If you think about it alot of our immegrent (SP again...sorry i've been drinking) ancestors did alot of the same things. They took the watermelon jobs and worked hard to provide for thier familys.....hopfully their kids did better than them and their kids did better than them and so on
welp that's just my take on it anyways.
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Gunslinger, that is not correct. Both the island of Hispaniola and hispanic share the same root-Spanish. Hispanic is of Spanish-American stock, no matter what country in the New World you are talking about.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Sand....because I like you I will educate you like a coworker of mine did once.
Your coworker would probably disagree with this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_American), this (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hispanic), this (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hispanic), and this (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hispanic), etc.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Your coworker would probably disagree with this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_American), this (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hispanic), this (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hispanic), and this (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hispanic), etc.
OOPS i was wrong....it was Haiti and DR.
(http://www.activecabarete.com/info/images/map-hispaniola-physical.jpg)
but who are we to tell a puerto rican he's wrong? :cool:
good links though....against the wishes of MEO (military equal opertunity) i'm gonna email these to him just to see his reaction.
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Estes is right. For what it pays you get Mexicans that primarily apply for those jobs. It doesn't require a great amount of speaking english to get the job done. Those that are bi-lingual usually rise thru the ranks pretty fast.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'm a California native. It's not this obvious. Plenty of non-Hispanics cleaning toilets.
how many times do i have to tell you. You live in the middle of nowhere. If you live where i live which was close to the airshow spot btw you see them all the time flipping burgers and cleaning toilets. the white tennagers get all the jobs at stater bros. etc.
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Originally posted by Estes
Out of my 15 years of living here, I have yet to see a white construction worker.
Obviously you have never been to Haltom City.:D
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Originally posted by Sandman
Having been here a week, I have a question...
Why does it seem that everyone employed in the service industries (janitors, housekeeping, maids, gardener's, etc.), are Mexican?
Maybe because Mexico is right across the border and it`s so very easy to get into Texas with the unsecured borders, ya think?
They can hop into Texas, get a job of low wages fast, work and take the money home to their family. These low wages when taken back to Mexico equals quite a sum in their country.
You can`t blame the Mexican people for doing this to assure the survial of their families and to make life a little easier for them. What it does though is make things tough for the blue collar worker in Texas. He can`t compete with the low wages that an illegal will work for.
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Obviously you have never been to Haltom City.
You live in Haltom?
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Originally posted by rpm371
Estes is right. For what it pays you get Mexicans that primarily apply for those jobs. It doesn't require a great amount of speaking english to get the job done. Those that are bi-lingual usually rise thru the ranks pretty fast.
Perhaps that and 80% of the population being Hispanic. At least it sure seems that way. But I wouldn't make a huge deal out of it. The majority of industrial labor is also Hispanic ... at least round these parts.
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the better you fit in the better the job you will have..
fitting in may mean something as simple as speaking the language and being a citizen of the country you are in. It may simply mean being there legally and having all the right paperwork.
If you don't have the basics there will be plenty of people waiting to take advantage.
For all of us there is the check cashing place and the rent to won furniture places and the no money down car lots that charge 20% interest and have cars that cost 5 times what they are worth.
If you are illegal, uneducated or a drug addict or gambler or loser who has let his credit slip to nothing... there is an army of people out there willing to fleece you.
lazs
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Originally posted by Slash27
Obviously you have never been to Haltom City.
You live in Haltom?
No not in Haltom City but in the Mid Cities.
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Sandman just a little question.
why is it that in the east,north east ,south,just about anywhere but the west ,do you see only whites and blacks doing the jobs you mentioned? just wondering.
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Originally posted by demaw1
Sandman just a little question.
why is it that in the east,north east ,south,just about anywhere but the west ,do you see only whites and blacks doing the jobs you mentioned? just wondering.
no boarders they can come across.
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Why does it seem that everyone employed in the service industries (janitors, housekeeping, maids, gardener's, etc.), are Mexican?
Because no one will hire Americans when there are Hispanics willing to work for less pay. In other words, they are doing the jobs "Americans won't do" (for Mexican wages). Poor, uneducated, unskilled Americans are being pushed aside because the federal gov't neglects its responsibility to control our borders. Both political parties are guilty in this travesty.
ra
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No not it Haltom City but in the Mid Cities.
rgr that, I work down there.
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Originally posted by unix
Obviously you have never been to Haltom City.:D
I have been there, many times:)
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I live in SA, and the same situation is here. A very large Mexican-American population. The types of jobs you mention are almost exclusively performed by Mex-American wage workers. But, I shoudl say that there are many very successfull Mex-American business people as well. I work in DOD and my boss (Mrs Montalvo) is a GS-14. She gets "paid".
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Originally posted by ra
Because no one will hire Americans when there are Hispanics willing to work for less pay. In other words, they are doing the jobs "Americans won't do" (for Mexican wages). Poor, uneducated, unskilled Americans are being pushed aside because the federal gov't neglects its responsibility to control our borders. Both political parties are guilty in this travesty.
ra
Right on!:aok
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The Mexicans cleaning our toilets and doing our chores isn't such a bad thing, but I just can't resist...
THEY TOOK 'ER JERBS!!!
...Anyway, I live in the Houston area, and I've seen 2 janitors that weren't Mexican. Not a bad thing, but i bet it's strange for Northerners who vacation here.
Oh, and if you're going to be here for a few more days, visit a city called Corpus Christi on the Gulf Coast. It's a very nice place.
And by the way... I don't have an accent. None whatsoever. My dad's yelled at me because of this :rofl .
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Not one mention of New Mexico, where the "Anglos" are the "new guys".......
ABQ founded in the 1500s
Gunns
Noxious caps removal
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One reason that Anglos hire those illegal Aliens making better-than-minimum-wages(figure 8$ph for that "mescian" blowing leaves), is that those guys will show up everyday on time and work.