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Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 24, 2004, 01:09:13 AM
yep thats about it

happens kinda more frequently than i care to be comfortable with...hell happened tonight when i sqeezed off my first round in a tiger, bam disco!!!

starting to get afraid of upping any perk rides any more because i might get discoed
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Scrap on July 24, 2004, 01:58:13 AM
Yup, me too.  tonight in the MA.  Hot on a P38, me in D9.  Pull tirgger... CTD. Nuff said.


It happened to one of the JBs in the SEA tonight too.   I think it was 35.  Anyhoo, this seems to be a widespread problem now.  Once again, nuff said.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: jodgi on July 24, 2004, 02:00:27 AM
I've had that happen as well but only 2 times out of maybe hundreds. One of the CTD's was with a panzr.

I have Mitsu's soundpack moved from AH1.

It happened with patch 6.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Scrap on July 24, 2004, 03:35:32 AM
Just did it offline in a Tempest.  2nd time for me ever.  This is on a fresh DL of AHII.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: FDutchmn on July 24, 2004, 04:42:01 AM
This happened to a lot of players in the Friday Squad Ops tonight (in the Special Events Arena), including myself...
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: ramzey on July 24, 2004, 04:48:03 AM
allways when i push trigger my fps drop under 20 fps
thats not happend before
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: OOZ662 on July 24, 2004, 05:56:20 AM
I posted a couple below this one; I think it's caused by the muzzle flare animation. Although; Mitsu might be doin it too.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 24, 2004, 11:40:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by OOZ662
I posted a couple below this one; I think it's caused by the muzzle flare animation. Although; Mitsu might be doin it too.


im not running mitshu

never got into it, tryed it once but i was so used to useing the ah defult sounds, hearing new ones screwed me all up
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 24, 2004, 11:41:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ramzey
allways when i push trigger my fps drop under 20 fps
thats not happend before


i have this problem too
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 24, 2004, 11:43:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FDutchmn
This happened to a lot of players in the Friday Squad Ops tonight (in the Special Events Arena), including myself...


ohh i know i was there, didnt happen to me, but i kind of expect it in special events now, if you remember in ah1 or at least from my experiances, i used to get discoed in ah1 special events as soon as the field was open and i hit the tower button, guess it was too many of us doing the smae thing at once
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Waffle on July 25, 2004, 03:06:24 AM
I was in the FN (friday night) ops when I read about folks CTD when pulling triggers. I was in a val - pulling a trigger wasn't goona help me much...lol

Anyway - later that evening I was in MA and had it happen to me twice. Once in a 110 on the runway pulling a cannon round off -
and the other I beleive in a hurricane.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 25, 2004, 02:29:02 PM
ive had it from both ends....

i fire, CTD
but then i was in DA, fired at a squady, and he CTD'ed instead of me, so it seems to happen both ways

most (i would say ALL, because i dont really fly planes without cannons.....) the time when i CTD its cannon fire
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 25, 2004, 06:01:51 PM
seems to be something to do with anytime you hit a button, any button, i was heading out to a spawn point today in my tiger and was getting myself set up when i hit esc to bring up my map, bam disco....

this is happenening way too frequently now, im losing a lot of perk's

what is going on with these disco's high tech:confused:
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Widewing on July 26, 2004, 12:26:38 AM
Happened to me once each of the past two nights. Line up for the easy kill, squeeze the trigger and instant desk top.

I've lost 11 aircraft and vehicles to CDTs and FE freezes this tour, about 2/3 of my losses...  :mad:

My regards,

Widewing
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: JB35 on July 26, 2004, 04:59:00 AM
~S~ All AHII Beta Testers
Happened to me for the first time in SE flying the Val . Saturday , hit trigger and next thin i saw was my desktop , hmmmmmmm  id say bring back AHI till all the bugs are fixed in AHII , but thats me.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 26, 2004, 06:18:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by JB35
~S~ All AHII Beta Testers
Happened to me for the first time in SE flying the Val . Saturday , hit trigger and next thin i saw was my desktop , hmmmmmmm  id say bring back AHI till all the bugs are fixed in AHII , but thats me.


yup.........give people a choice

a normal AHII arena, or a AHI arena with lets say a 100 player limit
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Mugzeee on July 26, 2004, 08:32:13 AM
I just was in the MA...In formation B17s over nme CV...Puffy ack....F4F fired about 6 or 8 rounds in me..I jumped to the gun..lined em up..squeezed the trigger.. and INSTANT CTD!!@!!
FIX THIS FRIKIN GAME!!!!!@  :P
I was a little steamed while typing :D
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: hitech on July 26, 2004, 09:25:49 AM
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 26, 2004, 09:34:34 AM
hmm i dont remeber it being only when i first logged into the ma.

but on my last encounter in a tiger i had just logged into the ma and upped tiger and drove all the way out to the spawn point before fireing off my first shell and thats a long ways:cool:
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Sikboy on July 26, 2004, 09:38:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


Might not be worth anything, but...

Having had the arena switch/CTD hit me last week, I made sure that my squad all completely exited the game before coming into the SEA before squad ops. Then, as soon as we were airborn, I had everyone test fire their guns. We didn't suffer any CTDs.

After Squad Ops, we returned to the MA, and at least one of my guys didn't back all the way out and suffered a CTD at first trigger pull.

-Sik
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 26, 2004, 11:08:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


that would explain my CTD's when i *change* to CT arena, but normaly no, i go straight to MA, sometimes its the first round i shoot in the 1st plane, sometimes its the 2nd plane, sometimes its the 10th plane, but it WILL happen at least once a day to me :(
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Drano on July 26, 2004, 11:08:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


The two times it's happened to me were on the first hop after I'd switched from the CT and SEA to the MA.

First time the guys were tellin me about it on VOX so I pulled the trigger and fired a couple of rounds. There was a delay--long enough for me to say "well I'm still....." Klunk! CTD.

Second time was just this past Friday night after the FSO. Left the SEA for the MA. Flew quite a while, lined up on a low Spit, squeezed the trigger--klunk!

       Drano
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: RTR on July 26, 2004, 12:00:03 PM
Hitech, this has been happening to me as well. Started with patch 6. (not sure if its the patch, but never had this happen prior).
In reference to your question about switching arena's, it just happened to me again, and yes I did just hop out of ma and enter TA. It happened on first pull of trigger, and with a mossie.

IIRC this does seem to happen with me on first pull of trigger after entering an arena (but I am not 100% sure....I will watch for it and report).

cheers,

RTR
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Soda on July 26, 2004, 12:25:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


Has only happened to me after I switch arenas. In AH1 used to happen when I hit "fly" from the clipboard after a switch, now it happens when I pull the trigger.

-Soda
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: jodgi on July 26, 2004, 01:45:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


No, it happened after playing in the MA for quite a while.

I had a situation where I was in a panzer and pulled the trigger, the screen froze showing the muzzle flash. I had to hard reset my machine.

This has only happened to me 3 times, 2 in plane, 1 in pnzr.
Title: la
Post by: dragoon on July 26, 2004, 02:15:24 PM
happens to me too, pull trigger and boom. not so much here as of late though
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Waffle on July 26, 2004, 03:44:25 PM
Just noticed when I got back into MA from SEA..

Haven't had it happen to me since then. Maybe I'll try jumping arenas and see if that causes it to happen again.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Mugzeee on July 26, 2004, 05:02:47 PM
MA is the only Arena i fly in these days.
First trigger Pull in that plane...But not that session.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Widewing on July 26, 2004, 06:01:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


I can't recall the circumstances of the first CDT I had, but last night it did occur on my first sortie after leaving the TA.

My  regards,

Widewing
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Scrap on July 26, 2004, 08:46:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Scrap
Just did it offline in a Tempest.  2nd time for me ever.  This is on a fresh DL of AHII.


Hitech...  Don't want to toot my own horn here by quoting myself, but...

This happens both offline and online.  It has only occured to me only in a D9 in the MA.  I rarely switch arenas (only off to SEA every once in a friday).   I have had 3 trigger related CTDs in the last week or so.  Each time they result in a wierd "collapsing of the screen." Like someone is shutting curtains horizontally on the game.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Jasta on July 26, 2004, 08:56:30 PM
I had one after switching arenas from MA to DA. Other than that, Ive had one while just flying offline. No arena switch.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: FDutchmn on July 27, 2004, 01:32:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


I changed from the MA to the SEA.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 27, 2004, 08:53:36 AM
heres another instance:

last night the 68th and aka's group got together for a little noe mission to the bish 37, there were about 20 or so of us, well we upped from 21 and flew like 4 or 5 sectors east towards 37, half of us in lanc's the other in 110's and a couple goons. well we get to within a sector of target and BAM!!! "lost connection with tcp"
discoed!!!:mad: !!! so i logg back on and say "wtf i just got discoed" and find out that 9 to 10 other player's in our little group also got discoed at the exact same time:confused: ??

don't know what it means? but we were all strait and level useing auto level when it happened, and at about 100 feet off the deck. no one had to push any buttons either.. just discoed a bunch of us in the same sector at the exact same time.. first time for me :eek:


so was this a disco or a cdt?

no message appeared just got shot back to windows and had to  reopen ah again
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: hitech on July 27, 2004, 09:49:23 AM
Devil: Please don't confuse disco issuses with ctd's.

HiTech
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Flit on July 27, 2004, 10:15:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech

 Yes, from MA to CT
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 27, 2004, 10:16:16 AM
call me stupid or just illiterate to the acronims used here:confused:  but what is cdt's?
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: whels on July 27, 2004, 10:35:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


ive had 4 or 5 dump to desktops.

3 with gun fire  2 just looking around.

P51  5 kills passed a enemy b17 raid, as i passed
through switching views got a hard lock had to reboot.
F4U-1 flying level no friendly or enemy near, think i hit
escape for map and CTD.

A8 2 times, and F4U-1  1st instant i fired guns CTD.


all mine came with MA being only arena ive been in.
Stock sounds, 3/4s sound accel
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 27, 2004, 10:41:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
call me stupid or just illiterate to the acronims used here:confused:  but what is cdt's?


its CTD

Crash To Desktop
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 28, 2004, 03:28:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Overlag
its CTD

Crash To Desktop


arent they one in the same? disco's, and ctd's? every time i get discoed, ah2 always closes out and i automatically return to windows
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: FDutchmn on July 28, 2004, 03:41:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
arent they one in the same? disco's, and ctd's? every time i get discoed, ah2 always closes out and i automatically return to windows


No.  Disco's usually ends up in a message prompted.  AH2 closes out only after you click OK.  CTD just ends AH2 without warning.

The difference?  Disco's are usually not an application error.  It could be a number of things including network failure.

CTD's are generally thought of as application error.
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 28, 2004, 05:12:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
heres another instance:

last night the 68th and aka's group got together for a little noe mission to the bish 37, there were about 20 or so of us, well we upped from 21 and flew like 4 or 5 sectors east towards 37, half of us in lanc's the other in 110's and a couple goons. well we get to within a sector of target and BAM!!! "lost connection with tcp"
discoed!!!:mad: !!! so i logg back on and say "wtf i just got discoed" and find out that 9 to 10 other player's in our little group also got discoed at the exact same time:confused: ??

don't know what it means? but we were all strait and level useing auto level when it happened, and at about 100 feet off the deck. no one had to push any buttons either.. just discoed a bunch of us in the same sector at the exact same time.. first time for me :eek


so was this a disco or a cdt?

no message appeared just got shot back to windows and had to  reopen ah again
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 28, 2004, 05:13:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Did everyone reporting this CTD i.e. On first triger pull, change arenas before it happened?

HiTech


because
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 28, 2004, 05:13:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Devil: Please don't confuse disco issuses with ctd's.

HiTech


they said:confused:
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 28, 2004, 07:10:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
so was this a disco or a cdt?

no message appeared just got shot back to windows and had to  reopen ah again


thats a CTD because the game crashed...and you ended up at the desktop. i thought it was rather simple really....

and 68th seem to cause alot of this with there NOE lanc/110 raids....i remember defending 2 of your missions and both times CTDing.......

Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
because


err reread what he said.... basicaly 90% of the pull trigger then CTD is because the person SWITCHED arenas before playing...
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 29, 2004, 07:37:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Overlag
thats a CTD because the game crashed...and you ended up at the desktop. i thought it was rather simple really....

and 68th seem to cause alot of this with there NOE lanc/110 raids....i remember defending 2 of your missions and both times CTDing.......

 

err reread what he said.... basicaly 90% of the pull trigger then CTD is because the person SWITCHED arenas before playing...


oh i though he was saying it wasnt a ctd... alright, so will it get fixed is the next question?
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: hitech on July 29, 2004, 09:53:32 AM
Devil: Your still confusing me, this is why I asked to not mix the issues. In your post you say you got the message "lost connection with tcp", the deal is I don't know of such a message.

There is a host connection lost message box.

There is also a lost UDP switching to TCP message.

If you got either of those it is a Disco. I.E. a communication failure.

So did you get one of those messages?


The resone I asked you not to mix the issues, is the answere to you last question.

Of course we will fix the problem of the CTD's, but It is not an easy task to find the problem , when I havn't been able to reproduce it on my computer. So I look for comonalities between people who have had the CTD's to get an idea where to start looking. When you post an unrelated problem as the same thing, it makes it much more difficult for me to track it down.


HiTech
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 29, 2004, 10:22:15 AM
im willing to say my CTD's are with CANNON planes only... never had one in a plane without cannons. Unless someone is firing cannons AT me, sometimes that CTD's me (and the guy firing)
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 29, 2004, 10:22:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hitech
Devil: Your still confusing me, this is why I asked to not mix the issues. In your post you say you got the message "lost connection with tcp", the deal is I don't know of such a message.

There is a host connection lost message box.

There is also a lost UDP switching to TCP message.

If you got either of those it is a Disco. I.E. a communication failure.

So did you get one of those messages?
HiTech


i get the not receiveing updates switching to tcp?? i think everytime i log on. (does this mean theres no updates availble or theres something wrong??) sorry side question

on a couple occasions i got the lost connection message and the experiance that i posted about with the multiple ejections, i didnt get any message, was just shot back to windows
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: Overlag on July 29, 2004, 10:34:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by 68DevilM
i get the not receiveing updates switching to tcp?? i think everytime i log on. (does this mean theres no updates availble or theres something wrong??) sorry side question

on a couple occasions i got the lost connection message and the experiance that i posted about with the multiple ejections, i didnt get any message, was just shot back to windows


as hitech said, your mixing the issue

the lost TCP is when the loading the textures takes too long and the arena (or the game) times you out.......

this thread is about people that pull the tigger and CTD
Title: pull the trigger disco bug
Post by: 68DevilM on July 29, 2004, 03:50:38 PM
ur right got off topic

ok back to pull trigger:aok

ps yes this has happens to my self from time to time and fellow pilots:D