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Title: AH2 and TrackIR support?
Post by: jmr on July 25, 2004, 02:16:09 AM
Hi I just downloaded AH2 for the first time but does it have native support for Track IR?
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: jodgi on July 25, 2004, 06:00:49 AM
No, there's no support yet.

HTC is aware of TIR but they have plenty of more pressing matters to attend to.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Edbert on July 25, 2004, 07:41:06 AM
FWIW, I also talked to Wayne over at NaturalPoint and he said that he and Dale have been in contact with each other. He (Wayne) is convinced that getting the code written would be relatively easy, so I told him (Wayne) that since HT has so much on his (HT's) plate right now that NaturalPoint should dedicate some programming resources to the job. All in order to sell more units of course. He (Wayne) said they were considering that, but there is no AH-SDK or anything like that.

I am waiting as patiently as I can for the support to be added. TrackIR is a very cool device, and using it in IL2 makes a HUGE difference in both SA and immersion.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: jodgi on July 25, 2004, 08:20:55 AM
I was afraid that I would lose the variable head position in AH when using TIR. There are ways of getting TIR to work in enhanced mode already, but the sensitivity isn't good and most importantly you lose the six view that is achieved by using the keypad views.

Now I've seen a successful implementation of both TIR and variable head position in Targetware's software. They even "stole" the headposition feature from AH, but HTC's way is still the best.

The best of both worlds is possible and doable.

Patience.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Pollock on July 25, 2004, 11:02:05 AM
Now I've seen a successful implementation of both TIR and variable head position in Targetware's software. They even "stole" the headposition feature from AH, but HTC's way is still the best.

Jodgi,

What software is this? I would like to use my Tir2 with ah2 but have hit brick walls with track mapper and tir2joy.  Is there a simple install solution? I am really horrid when it comes to tweaking programs.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: jodgi on July 25, 2004, 11:24:38 AM
I know of no other solution than the tir2joy and trackmapper setups with AH. I've tried them, got them to work and gone back to normal viewkeys.

Trackmapper just gets too disorienting for me. The tir2joy solution doesn't provide a clear six view.

(Targetware is a sim, btw)
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: bustr on July 26, 2004, 04:18:25 PM
I have the trackIR 3 Pro. Because of its speed and the more granular control provided with 3.11 version of the software, TrackMapper works rather well for me. I've had to slow down the response on the axis and make the center dead zone large. But it works and the view transitions are no worse than rapidly snaping your eyes from rear view to side view while driving a car.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Balsy on July 28, 2004, 06:44:18 PM
Pyros software update.. update... says their working on TrackIR support!
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Edbert on July 29, 2004, 07:15:13 AM
I have it from a good source (who asked to not be named) that Native TIR support may be out in the next release. I assume that to mean 2.1 not patch 7. Still no date on that but 2 weeks may not be wrong :D
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: XtrmeJ on July 29, 2004, 08:20:02 AM
TrackIR will be great, hear good things about it. Think I'm gonna give it a go.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Biggles on July 30, 2004, 01:32:12 AM
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Originally posted by bustr
I have the trackIR 3 Pro. Because of its speed and the more granular control provided with 3.11 version of the software, TrackMapper works rather well for me. I've had to slow down the response on the axis and make the center dead zone large. But it works and the view transitions are no worse than rapidly snaping your eyes from rear view to side view while driving a car.


Hey, can you send me your trackmapper .ttk file use you use for AH2? I've got trackIR 3 Pro, too. and 3.11

Thanks...

P.S. all of a sudden I'm remember Windows for Workgroups. ugh
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: bustr on July 30, 2004, 07:18:02 PM
Biggles,

Just use the native TrackIR support in the latest release of AHII,,it's finally here, just been posted today..........:)
Title: Too much wine, or too much sun?
Post by: beet1e on July 31, 2004, 06:52:52 AM
OK, I admit it - I'm an old fart who has trouble keeping up with these new developments. At least I upgraded my PC for AH2. :p

Can someone please tell me - in 5 lines or less - what IS TrackIR, and why all the fuss about it? Not trolling - just want to know.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Revvin on July 31, 2004, 07:49:55 AM
Alan> Imagine glancing down to the bottom quarter of your monitor screen and your in-game 'head' looking down at the instrument panel, imagine looking at the left quarter of your monitor and looking over your shoulder or out over your left wing before moving your view quickly to the other side to look at a con as you rolled past him..that is why TrackIR is so much fun to use it increses the immersion.

The TrackIR device is like a web cam that sits on top of your monitor and tracks an adhesive reflective dot that can be fixed to your forehead, glasses frame or mic boom. Worth every penny and I don't fly a sim without it.

OK so that was 6 lines but you're an old fart stuck in your ways and will take more convincing ;)
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Eagler on July 31, 2004, 08:24:13 AM
it works well
Title: Re: Too much wine, or too much sun?
Post by: ALF on July 31, 2004, 11:58:35 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
OK, I admit it - I'm an old fart ....
Can someone please tell me - in 5 lines or less - what IS TrackIR, and why all the fuss about it?  


I love sims that let me fly in air
But hat-switch views are at best fair
So I bough track ir
Now its more fun by far
Cause whenever my head turns I look there.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: Biggles on July 31, 2004, 02:35:47 PM
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Originally posted by bustr
Biggles,

Just use the native TrackIR support in the latest release of AHII,,it's finally here, just been posted today..........:)


Yep, thanks. Works great now! Can't wait to wring it out. I tried it offline and it fealt much better than the previous mouseview tracking. I like how when it senses you coming back to center to line up a shot it seems to "snap" to center, which is a big help. This might actually work very well.
Title: AH2 and TrackIR support
Post by: beet1e on July 31, 2004, 05:30:50 PM
Kevin!  
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Originally posted by Revvin
OK so that was 6 lines but you're an old fart stuck in your ways and will take more convincing ;)
:lol:lol
Title: Re: Too much wine, or too much sun?
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on July 31, 2004, 06:02:02 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
OK, I admit it - I'm an old fart who has trouble keeping up with these new developments. At least I upgraded my PC for AH2. :p

Can someone please tell me - in 5 lines or less - what IS TrackIR, and why all the fuss about it? Not trolling - just want to know.


Basically it's a sensor that system that allows you to "look" around yr cockpit without using any keys or hats. You have a IR dot - mine's on my mic - and a sensor on yr desk.

As you move yr head your view chnages, turn your head right and the viewing angle pans right, yr eye's stay forward on the screen but moving yr head moves your viewpoint.

It's a must in IL2, not so sure it's needed in AH but am going to try it this weekend - costs about £100 in the UK.