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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Preon1 on July 26, 2004, 07:09:20 AM
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I just heard a report on NPR regarding John Kerry's appearance at last night's Red Sox vs Yankees game. They played the audio when the announcer introduced John Kerry and he threw out the first pitch. The audio was filled with boo's from the fans and the pitch apparently never made it to the plate.
Does anybody have access to the footage from MLB.com? I'd love to see that clip.
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Maybe Mr Black shot the baseball out of Kerry's hand, and that's why it looked like a girl throw?
Les
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"Greeted by a mixture of boos and cheers, Kerry ceremonially threw the first pitch of the game to Will Pumyea, 23, of Woburn, Mass., a military police officer with the Massachusetts National Guard who returned recently from Iraq. Pumyea is "a supporter of mine," Kerry told reporters. His throw was low and short. The ball got by Pumyea, who was wearing military fatigues."
I have always dreamed that if I got to throw the first pitch, it would be like Kevin Kline in "Dave".
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Hey, this would be front page news and the top story on Peter Jennings commentary show had Bush not been able to get the ball to the plate.
How come we cant find any pictures or any video of this?
Must be all those commercials Im seeing for CNN's "John Kerry: Born to Run" getting in the way.
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This is the only image I can find...
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/25/dems.main/story.kerry.baseball.1.ap.jpg)
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(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040726/capt.sge.qbg08.260704104000.photo00.default-384x268.jpg)
(http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/07/25/kerry-pitch-ap.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040726/capt.sge.qcd49.260704124038.photo02.default-274x384.jpg)
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Saw the video...
Mixture of cheers and boos, and yes he threw like a girl.
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My man takes Levitra...
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/25/dems.main/story.kerry.baseball.1.ap.jpg)
Stay in the game. Ask your Doctor.
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what do you want from a girlie man?
now compare that to the strike Bush threw in the 01 WS
(http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/200000/204700/204721/Products/3598158.jpg)
(http://newsfeed.tcm.ie/images/people/presidentbushbaseballAP.JPG)
(http://members.chello.at/bruno.preschern/0465.jpg)
(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/mlb/2001/1030/photo/a_bush_i.jpg)
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Stick Bush and Kerry in a ring with gloves, Bush would knock that wimp out within the first 30 seconds.
We should have a national debate, then the "ring" prior to any election. :)
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Yeah choose your future president by how he throwed a ball...
Figures :rolleyes:
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Dad didnt play catch with you either?
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LMFao..a cheese eat'n Surrender monkey puts his 1 cent in?...lmfao..there are so many jokes about French gov..If i were a frog i would just stfu ...
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...the French....and the Axis of Weasels...
"There always there when they need us"
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Dad didnt play catch with you either?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Dad didnt play catch with you either?
Now THAT's funny!
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LMFao..a cheese eat'n Surrender monkey puts his 1 cent in?...lmfao..there are so many jokes about French gov..If i were a frog i would just stfu ...
So do we have with Bush, my friend... But it's almost too easy with him that i'm a bit ashamed :D
For the insults, i'll let them pass and go as it must be a moment of pure stupidity as we all have once in a week. :p
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Originally posted by Ouaibe
Yeah choose your future president by how he throwed a ball...
Figures :rolleyes:
How a man throws a ball may be an indication as to what kind of childhood he had, and subsequently what kind of a man he is now. Personally, I don't know many American males who never had a catch with thier father growing up. Sports is one of the primary venues that we use to teach our children such concepts as honesty, integrity, fair play, and respect.
What do we know about John Kerry's childhood? He spent a lot of time moving around? He spent a lot of time in boarding schools? His bio pretty much starts when he graduated from Yale, so we really have to make our own judgements.
My judgement from the first pitch is that his childhood is at the very least unorthodox (for an American). I add that to the time before the Dem primary in MA when we was asked the price of the gallon of gasoline and he didn't know, and the morning of the NH primary when he did a photo-op cooking breakfast and couldn't flip a pancake.
John Kerry claims to be a man of the people when lacks some of the most common traits found in the people in our culture. It's like the french electing Chirac even though he showered on a regular basis.
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Originally posted by Preon1
How a man throws a ball may be an indication as to what kind of childhood he had, and subsequently what kind of a man he is now. Personally, I don't know many American males who never had a catch with thier father growing up. Sports is one of the primary venues that we use to teach our children such concepts as honesty, integrity, fair play, and respect.
What do we know about John Kerry's childhood? He spent a lot of time moving around? He spent a lot of time in boarding schools? His bio pretty much starts when he graduated from Yale, so we really have to make our own judgements.
My judgement from the first pitch is that his childhood is at the very least unorthodox (for an American). I add that to the time before the Dem primary in MA when we was asked the price of the gallon of gasoline and he didn't know, and the morning of the NH primary when he did a photo-op cooking breakfast and couldn't flip a pancake.
John Kerry claims to be a man of the people when lacks some of the most common traits found in the people in our culture. It's like the french electing Chirac even though he showered on a regular basis.
Lamest troll ever.
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Originally posted by hawker238
Lamest troll ever.
I don't think so. He has a good point.
Would I vote for someone based on whether they can throw a baseball? No. But he hasn't shown many (if any) examples on how he can relate to me or the majority of Americans in any other way.
What is John Kerry? What has he been? A decorated vet... ok that's seen as a positive (except to Laz) but what else has he been? Where has he worked? Has he been a politician his whole life? I havent heard of him being anything else. So how does he relate to me or the rest of Americans? The only time I've seen him do anything that I have done is throw a baseball. And he did it in a way that makes it obviouse that he's never learned how to do it. Soooo.... how can he relate to me? Or the rest of average america?
I have no love for Bush but John Kerry is looking more and more like a loser every time I see him on TV. And I'v been trying to like the guy.
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But it's almost too easy with him that i'm a bit ashamed
why would you be ashamed?..you are not an American
If I was a frenchy..I woudl hide ...Chirac? LMFAO..How do you pick your President? Backroom shady deals? Or how they use the BLOOD OF AMERICANS to further there political and finacial situation..I find it truly DISGUSTING ..and will never spend a cent on your country..till you change your ways..There has been so much uncovered about the French Gov and French businesses there and how they have been stabbing the USA and its allies in the back it makes me sick..
The list of Russian entities accused of accepting bribes from Saddam goes to the heart of the Russian financial and political establishment and includes the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Russian Communist Party, Lukoil, Yukos, Gasprom, the Russian Orthodox Church, and the chief of the President's Bureau. The list of French names includes former Interior Minister Charles Pasqua.
The close ties between Russian and French politicians and the Iraqi regime may have been an important factor in influencing their governments' decision to oppose Hussein's removal from power. They also highlight the close triangular working relationships among Paris, Moscow, and Baghdad and the huge French and Russian financial interests in pre-liberation Iraq. Prior to the regime change in April 2003, French and Russian oil companies possessed oil contracts with the Saddam Hussein regime that covered roughly 40 percent of the country's oil wealth.8
http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/bg1772.cfm
it goes farther..but..ya..what a friend france is...
you french live in a glass house...
and insults?..which one is an insult?...Can insults be true?..Yes they can..and if it offends you...thats your problem not mine
cheeses eatn?... yes you eat cheese
Im not sure where the monkey comes from..but its a great quote from Willy from the Simpsons
I am very sick of the bashing of my President Bush..especially from ones whos own country has done NOTHING... well not only nothing but has fought against us and the war on terrorism...and for what..pure love in there hearts...no godddammoney
the US and our real Allies have put a whoopasss on the scum of the earth..and we continue to do so..We have got the Axis of Evil to have second thougths on there black mail and other tactis....Would Libya give up there WMDs if we let the Axis Of Weasels run the USA...hell no
The French and the Ger mans are trying to stick it to us again. No, not over Iraq — over China.
So why are the Europeans doing this?Two reasons: To balance American global power and — tah dah! — to make money.
Paris and Berlin have long pushed for a multipolar world, in which the United States' overwhelming power is balanced (read: weakened) by other power centers (i.e., poles) such as the EU, China and Russia.
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed071904a.cfm
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Those predisposed to favor Bush will say that Kerry's lack of throwing ability represents a character flaw and demonstrates his horrendous upbringing and girly attributes.
Those predisposed to favor Kerry will say that Kerry's lack of throwing ability doesn't really matter and that we don't judge candidates by athletic prowess.
weeeeeeeeee!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Those predisposed to favor Bush will say that Kerry's lack of throwing ability represents a character flaw and demonstrates his horrendous upbringing and girly attributes.
Those predisposed to favor Kerry will say that Kerry's lack of throwing ability doesn't really matter and that we don't judge candidates by athletic prowess.
weeeeeeeeee!
-- Todd/Leviathn
Nonono!
Kerry actually possesses a hellacious fastball and a bender like the lucky charms rainbow. He was just taking it easy on the poor tired soldier just returned from overseas.
(option 3)
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Maybe Kerry is better at catching. ;)
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Aren't those the same fans that have re-elected Ted Kennedy about 10 times?
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btw..juts read the report of Ted " King of the Road" Kennedy"..
You knwo he didnt report the accident till the next day?... walked rigth by a fire station after rolling the car into the creek with that girl inside?
ITs is truly insane to read that report...and see this..."man" in a powerful seat in the USA...ahhh the horrah
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Originally posted by AKIron
Maybe Kerry is better at catching. ;)
:lol :rofl :lol :rofl Well, he *was* on a boat with other guys for a spell in SE Asia....:eek:
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Stick Bush and Kerry in a ring with gloves, Bush would knock that wimp out within the first 30 seconds.
We should have a national debate, then the "ring" prior to any election. :)
Why stick them in a ring with me? :lol
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http://www.ytedk.com/index.htm
lmfao..look at the postcard
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they boo-ed him BEFORE his girly man throw
me thinks if he had to do it over again, he wouldn't drive within 5 miles of that stadium
the guy is a tool and a half
JFK = just - for - kerry
LANDSLIDE BUSH!! :)
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I have a Ted Kennedy car. 69 Delta 88. That sucker is .455 fast and runs good to this day. Original engine condition, but it's lost it's looks. That was a hip car back then. Nowadays it's a poor man's red neck special, with enough dents that people get out of your way. It would be at home in the road warrior movie. It's the kind of car you'd probably see on the road after a nuclear war. It already looks like that.
Les
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We need a video of this girlie throw dammit!!
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why would you be ashamed?..you are not an American... blablabla.... Would Libya give up there WMDs if we let the Axis Of Weasels run the USA...hell no
^ hate inside, I won't discuss with you unless you'll tone down (which probably means anymore, but it won't be a loss for you and for me...)
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true dat
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LMAO thats too funny. I think that throw is an insult to girls. I know my GF could throw alot harder and faster then that. Looks more like the throw of some queen that's had too many operations gone wrong.
...-Gixer
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A side effect of Botox injections, perhaps?
Maybe an old Vietnam injury, too.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
We need a video of this girlie throw dammit!!
not really :)
the reciever was not good either :D
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Originally posted by Preon1
I just heard a report on NPR regarding John Kerry's appearance at last night's Red Sox vs Yankees game. They played the audio when the announcer introduced John Kerry and he threw out the first pitch. The audio was filled with boo's from the fans and the pitch apparently never made it to the plate.
Does anybody have access to the footage from MLB.com? I'd love to see that clip.
Preon, where' the heck you've been hiding yourself? Didn't know you were back to reading the BBs. IM us sometime. :)
Okay, hijack over.
And I'll throw my political 2 cents in this thread and cover them all. Frankly, I avoid the typical two party system, I refuse to register in any political party, instead voting for the best candidate regardless, or sometimes in spite of, their political party. It's funny, I grew up in Maine and everyone had their own political views, but they were pretty quiet about them and just went and voted, didn't make a huge fuss. Here in Oklahoma, I'd hide if I were a democrat or at least tell no one, because it seems like everyone I meet here is an outspoken republican. Is it just me or is that true of this area of the country in general?
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I'm sure Arnold could throw the ball better than either of the two... maybe he should be elected? :D
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Originally posted by Preon1
John Kerry claims to be a man of the people when lacks some of the most common traits found in the people in our culture.
Still not as bad as George Bush Sr. never having seen a supermarket check-out scanner before.
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Originally posted by Fishu
I'm sure Arnold could throw the ball better than either of the two... maybe he should be elected? :D
All Euros throw like chicks. :)
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And yeah, it is definitely a chick throw in those pics of Kerry. It's all elbow. Looks like he's trying to shoot a free throw.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Maybe Kerry is better at catching. ;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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The things you moron's actually believe.....
Still not as bad as George Bush Sr. never having seen a supermarket check-out scanner before.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/bushscan.htm
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Check it out
http://msnvideo.msn.com/video
type " getting to know kerry" in video search and you can see it there.
Geez wasn't even on the mound, and couldnt reach home.:(
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This isn't really news except that there's a few pictures of Kerry running around posing with a football... looking like the athlete. I wonder if he knows how to throw that?
Not knowing how to throw a football or baseball is no big deal right up until you pretend you can.
BTW... "Throw's like a girl". Why aren't people all over that screaming homophobe? Where's all those politically correct Californians like Airhead, Groinhurts and Mathtard when you need em?
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Originally posted by Lizking
The things you moron's actually believe.....
Still not as bad as George Bush Sr. never having seen a supermarket check-out scanner before.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/bushscan.htm
Yup, STOOPID. That thing was pretty widely reported, it wasn't like a spam mail or some obscure op-ed piece.
Too bad we didn't have Snopes in 1992.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Maybe Kerry is better at catching. ;)
~spewwwwww~
culero (wiping monitor :))
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Originally posted by doobs
Geez wasn't even on the mound, and couldnt reach home.:(
Bush practiced, and he couldn't make it either.
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Updated: Friday April 06, 2001 11:49 PM
Flashes went off all over Miller Park as President Bush threw out the first pitch. AP
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Access to America's finest practice facilities didn't prepare President Bush for Miller Park: His first pitch was a major league bust.
The president's ceremonial first pitch at the Milwaukee Brewers' new stadium skipped in the dirt before thumping into the mitt of Brewers manager Davey Lopes. Bush froze in his follow-through for a moment, then shrugged his shoulders.
Ball. Way too low. A bit outside.
Afraid it would turn out this way, the president had tried to lower expectations before taking the mound. "The split-finger is sometimes not meant to reach the plate," Bush joked in the Brewers' locker room before the game.
He had practiced with an aide last weekend at the presidential retreat in Camp David, Md., and again Thursday on the South Lawn of the White House -- a respite, no doubt, from the standoff in China.
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Originally posted by Mini D
This isn't really news except that there's a few pictures of Kerry running around posing with a football... looking like the athlete. I wonder if he knows how to throw that?
Not knowing how to throw a football or baseball is no big deal right up until you pretend you can.
BTW... "Throw's like a girl". Why aren't people all over that screaming homophobe? Where's all those politically correct Californians like Airhead, Groinhurts and Mathtard when you need em?
Actually the correct term would be Misogynist., not Homophobe.
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BOSTON - John Kerry bounced the ceremonial first pitch during last night's Red Sox-Yankees game at Fenway Park, but he said he was just going easy on the National Guard soldier and Iraq war veteran standing in as catcher.
"I held back," Mr. Kerry told reporters early this morning, on the plane ride after the game. "He was very nervous. I tried to lob it gently."
And the catcher didn't have a knuckle ball glove... otherwise he'd have thrown his knuckle ball. Yeah thats it.
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i throw better than he does damn it:mad:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Actually the correct term would be Misogynist., not Homophobe.
It was more of a play on the current "girlyman" accusations of homophobia MT.
I simply view it as degrading to women and not to be tollerated.
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Hey, it's only the great American passtime. And the soldier was the person who was supposed the throw in the pitch but Kerry being much more important than him got to interject himself into that guys glory. And the guy didn't miss the catch. Kerry effed up the throw so bad that it bounced up off the ground and hit the guys glove. NOBODY could have caught that ball. Contrast that with Bush throwing in the game ball at the World Series right after 9/11 :) STEEEEERIKE! :D
And it's not a reason not to vote for Kerry. Kerry is reason enough not to vote for Kerry.
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Originally posted by Athena3
Preon, where' the heck you've been hiding yourself? Didn't know you were back to reading the BBs. IM us sometime. :)
Okay, hijack over.
And I'll throw my political 2 cents in this thread and cover them all. Frankly, I avoid the typical two party system, I refuse to register in any political party, instead voting for the best candidate regardless, or sometimes in spite of, their political party. It's funny, I grew up in Maine and everyone had their own political views, but they were pretty quiet about them and just went and voted, didn't make a huge fuss. Here in Oklahoma, I'd hide if I were a democrat or at least tell no one, because it seems like everyone I meet here is an outspoken republican. Is it just me or is that true of this area of the country in general?
It all completely depends. The further away from OKC or Tulsa you are the more outspoken republicans there are. In Norman, OKC, Edmond with college campuses there are more outspoken democrats. Are you guys stationed at Tinker or Lance AFB? I think there is another as well in Altus.
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BOSTON - John Kerry bounced the ceremonial first pitch during last night's Red Sox-Yankees game at Fenway Park, but he said he was just going easy on the National Guard soldier and Iraq war veteran standing in as catcher.
"I held back," Mr. Kerry told reporters early this morning, on the plane ride after the game. "He was very nervous. I tried to lob it gently."
Will this man ever admit to doing anything wrong? Must EVERYTHING be spinned to make him look as favourable as possible? He is the mother of all ****tards.
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why didn't he just tell em...
" I would like to throw out the ball but I throw like a girl and will have to lie to cover it up so.... no thanks"
lazs
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Will this man ever admit to doing anything wrong? Must EVERYTHING be spinned to make him look as favourable as possible? He is the mother of all ****tards.
If that's all he has left for a spin, he's in for a LONG 3 months
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So what? Good God this is a stupid thread.
Kerry apparently played hockey in college. I'd like to see GWB lace up the skates and play a man's game.
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Originally posted by Munkii
It all completely depends. The further away from OKC or Tulsa you are the more outspoken republicans there are. In Norman, OKC, Edmond with college campuses there are more outspoken democrats. Are you guys stationed at Tinker or Lance AFB? I think there is another as well in Altus.
We're at Vance, northern OK. No real colleges of size around here.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Will this man ever admit to doing anything wrong? Must EVERYTHING be spinned to make him look as favourable as possible? He is the mother of all ****tards.
I thought this thread was about Kerry... not Bush ;)
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Is John Kerry a girlscout?
He throws like one.
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Originally posted by Athena3
We're at Vance, northern OK. No real colleges of size around here.
Ahh Vance that's what I meant. Enid?
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Originally posted by Munkii
Ahh Vance that's what I meant. Enid?
Yep, beautiful enid. Actually I shouldn't complain, it's still bigger than my hometown.
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You're forgetting that Mr. Kerry can throw a football very well (has a good bomb arm), and he plays hockey.
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Originally posted by Fruda
You're forgetting that Mr. Kerry can throw a football very well (has a good bomb arm), and he plays hockey.
he also bicycles.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
he also bicycles.:rolleyes:
LOL don't rolls your eyes at Kerry riding a bike. this week Bush fell of his again :lol
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this week Bush fell of his again
Tyler Hamilton crashed a few weeks ago. So why does falling off a bike make Kerry's curveball acceptable?
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Originally posted by Mini D
It was more of a play on the current "girlyman" accusations of homophobia MT.
I simply view it as degrading to women and not to be tollerated.
Dang! Funked was right. You ARE one of those "gotta have the last word" kinda guys. Aren't ya?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Tyler Hamilton crashed a few weeks ago. So why does falling off a bike make Kerry's curveball acceptable?
Nice spin Holden.
And I'm sure that many many big leag baseball pitchers have thrown a ball thats hit the ground before getting to the catcher. Both examples... yours and mine are exagurations of the point.
My comment was that you can't knock Kerry for his riding prowess when Bush keeps falling off his own.
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Originally posted by Stridr417
So what? Good God this is a stupid thread.
Kerry apparently played hockey in college. I'd like to see GWB lace up the skates and play a man's game.
Hockey?? A MAN'S game?? Give me a break- hockey is for frustrated figure skaters. Real men play baseball, football or basketball- or get into pro wrestling.
I'll tell you something else, Whale Breath- if there were any money in hockey, the way there is in other professional sports, nobody would have ever heard of Wayne Gretsky. He'd be carving little totem poles to sell to the tourists off the cruise ships.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Dang! Funked was right. You ARE one of those "gotta have the last word" kinda guys. Aren't ya?
Is this meant to be the last word MT?
I said that in jest. I don't really see that in your reply. Or... am I missing something here?
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MiniD, you ALWAYS get in the last word. Admit it.
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You must be tired dude. It was a perfect set up right down the pipe slow pitch you could get the meat of the bat on....
All you needed to do was say "Yes".
LOL
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Originally posted by Preon1
It's like the french electing Chirac even though he showered on a regular basis.
Can I use this as my new sig line? Please?:D
BTW, in those pics, Kerry looks like he's chunking a hangernade (That's Alabama for "handgrenade").
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You must be tired dude. It was a perfect set up right down the pipe slow pitch you could get the meat of the bat on....
All you needed to do was say "Yes".
LOL
I guess I did miss it then. It seemed a bit out of left field. Now... I'm just hoping you don't reply to this so that I don't have to reply to that reply.
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ok
:)
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damn you.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Hockey?? A MAN'S game?? Give me a break- hockey is for frustrated figure skaters. Real men play baseball, football or basketball- or get into pro wrestling.
I'll tell you something else, Whale Breath- if there were any money in hockey, the way there is in other professional sports, nobody would have ever heard of Wayne Gretsky. He'd be carving little totem poles to sell to the tourists off the cruise ships.
So.... hockey players aren't real men because there's no money in their sport? Name another sport where you can kick someones ass, take a two minute break, then get back in the game.
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(http://www.pbase.com/image/32540566.jpg)
This photo appeared in a story in this week's Sporting News. In the article, the author notes,
"News reports indicated that Kerry, in anticipation of the great honor , had practiced throwing pitches to aides. If so, those aides would have well served their man by saying, 'Er, sir, maybe we should have Teresa do it.'
As Kerry came out tof the Red Sox dugout to do the first-pitch honors, he carried the ball in a way that foreshadowed the achievement to come. He carried it pressed against his palm with his fingers wrapped all the way around it. Kerry didn't go all the way to the mound. Perhaps he took a touch of advice from aides who had seen him warm up. He stopped maybe 45 feet from home plate. From there he threw the first pitch. I say 'threw' in the kindest possible way.
Here's what Kerry did: He raised his right arm to its full height. From up there, in an athletic movement seldom seen on a baseball field, he let the stiffened arm fall forward. At the same time, he splayed open his fingers in a way that allowed the ball to fall out. It bumped against the ground short of the catcher and in the right hand batter's box...
President Bush threw a World Series strike from 60 feet, 6 inches while wearing body armor the month after 9/11. And he threw another strike opening this season in St. Louis. So if we need a fastball at Osama bin Laden's ear, I know which guy I want on the mound."
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That's it, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! The election is decided. Kerry's dirt dobber vs. W's cruise missile. Dems can try again in 2008 -- Hillary surely can do better.
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If he throws grenades that well, I know how he was wounded.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If he throws grenades that well, I know how he was wounded.
Sig material... almost enough to knock off Grun and Boroda. ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Stick Bush and Kerry in a ring with gloves, Bush would knock that wimp out within the first 30 seconds.
Ya , Then Kerry find a way to BS his way into receiving another Purple Hart ! ..... and what ever else he could get out of it ......
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Originally posted by Airhead
Hockey?? A MAN'S game?? Give me a break- hockey is for frustrated figure skaters. Real men play baseball, football or basketball- or get into pro wrestling.
I'll tell you something else, Whale Breath- if there were any money in hockey, the way there is in other professional sports, nobody would have ever heard of Wayne Gretsky. He'd be carving little totem poles to sell to the tourists off the cruise ships.
lmao You must be joking..