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Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Eagler on July 27, 2004, 12:49:40 PM
tonite on fox

Moore meets The O'Reilly Factor

don't usually watch it but this one should be entertaining

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96207,00.html
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: DJ111 on July 27, 2004, 12:50:16 PM
Gotta record this one, it's gonna be good.

:D
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: AKIron on July 27, 2004, 12:54:32 PM
I like Bill, wouldn't miss this one for anything.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Weavling on July 27, 2004, 01:33:23 PM
Moore is comming out of hiding?  This I gotta see!
Title: he did that last night
Post by: Eagler on July 27, 2004, 01:38:38 PM
(http://www.foxnews.com/photo_essay/photoessay_77_images/moore_450.jpg)

even in the "Dumacrat President Box"
(http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc7.jpg)

amazing ...
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Mighty1 on July 27, 2004, 01:55:16 PM
What's with this dick weed anyway?

He now plans to go to Bush's home county and show his movie in a football stadium because no theatre will show it.

The man is being as rude as you can get. Even for a liberal this is bad.

Dick with ears! (http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/27/fahrenheit.911.crawford.ap/index.html)
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: MrLars on July 27, 2004, 03:47:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mighty1
What's with this dick weed anyway?

He now plans to go to Bush's home county and show his movie in a football stadium because no theatre will show it.



Nice try, he's showing it at the stadium because there's no theater in Crawford.

The nearest theater to Crawford is 12 miles away in Woodway, the next two nearest are in Waco at 14 miles distance.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Mighty1 on July 27, 2004, 04:00:16 PM
So?

Why does he HAVE to show it in Crawford?

It's just another personal attack on Bush.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 27, 2004, 04:08:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MrLars
Nice try, he's showing it at the stadium because there's no theater in Crawford.

The nearest theater to Crawford is 12 miles away in Woodway, the next two nearest are in Waco at 14 miles distance.


Granted thats a long walk for Moore, but if residents of Bush's home town want to see their man bashed Im sure they, like any good Texan, wouldnt mind a measly 12 miles.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Sandman on July 27, 2004, 05:15:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mighty1
So?

Why does he HAVE to show it in Crawford?

It's just another personal attack on Bush.


It's not like he's forcing the residents of Crawford to go see it.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: demaw1 on July 27, 2004, 05:25:59 PM
Waco?    Waco?  better not go there heard Reno still has snipers there.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: type_char on July 27, 2004, 06:26:34 PM
I still havent seen Ferenheit 911. Is there a book? Anyways I'll see it when its on DVD but then Ferenheit 911 II will be out, Micheal More Strikes Back.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Lizking on July 27, 2004, 06:29:05 PM
Those good old boy ranchers in Crawford are likely to kick MM's bellybutton if he shows up in person.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Fruda on July 27, 2004, 06:52:26 PM
You call MM rude? What Bush has done to this country is far more than rude.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: muckmaw on July 27, 2004, 08:45:59 PM
Worst.....Troll.....Evar!

BTW anyone notice MM looks AND sounds like....

(http://www.3e.org/nota/archives/pix/cbg.jpg)


(http://realityshifters.com/media/cslmichaelmoore2003.jpg)
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 27, 2004, 08:54:37 PM
(http://simpsonovi.comics.cz/media/Obrazky/Springfield/images/Quimby.jpg)
Mayor Quimby seems strangely familiar too. Can't place it...
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 27, 2004, 09:06:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MrLars
Nice try, he's showing it at the stadium because there's no theater in Crawford.

The nearest theater to Crawford is 12 miles away in Woodway, the next two nearest are in Waco at 14 miles distance.



lol :rofl   Dude 12 or 14 miles in Texas is around the corner.  Hell I've stayed in places where the nearest gas station or store was 50 miles away.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: demaw1 on July 27, 2004, 09:12:42 PM
Fruda....re:    bush

   Ok , tell me 1 thing you believe bush has done to this country that is evil.  No diatribe or rambling on just 1 thing cause I can only concentrate on 1 thing at a time ......thanks
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 27, 2004, 09:16:15 PM
But doesn't matter if it is only 500 yards. You know what the point was Udie,  MM wanted to show it in Crawford.  

Political reality is all about the image and the sound bite and Woodway doesn't make it because if he showed it in Woodway it would not be in Crawford
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 09:21:48 PM
demaw- i wouldn't say bush has made any evil choices. he has just made many poor ones, regarding the economy, environment, international policy and health care. which adds up to one poor choice for a president.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: demaw1 on July 27, 2004, 09:28:31 PM
Nhttila...reply

    Ok what part of 1 subject didnt you understand....lol just kidding. Serious now 1 thing ,like he killed all the fishes south of mason/dixon line. something tangable on any 1 subject....thanks
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 09:33:37 PM
hehe.

how about retracting from the kyoto treaty?

i'm not a liberal btw. i voted for bush in the first election, certainly not going to do so again.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 09:36:29 PM
or we can go health care. during clinton's reign, 2.3 million people gained health care. under bush's- 3.8 million lost it.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: muckmaw on July 27, 2004, 09:49:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NHattila
or we can go health care. during clinton's reign, 2.3 million people gained health care. under bush's- 3.8 million lost it.


Do you have a source for these numbers?

Link?
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 09:51:48 PM
U.S census bureau. under health care.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 27, 2004, 10:03:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NHattila
or we can go health care. during clinton's reign, 2.3 million people gained health care. under bush's- 3.8 million lost it.


BS....

 90% of the medical procedures I've had came before I ever had insurance.  As a matter of fact the only time I've ever paid for medical service has been since I've had insurance.

 Holden,  yup no argument there.  I was just commenting on the 12/14 mile thing.  If people in Crawford wanted to see the movie chances are they drove the 14 miles to see it just like they do with every other movie they want to see.  It will be interesting to see what happens in Crawford!
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 10:06:51 PM
then tax payors are fronting your bills. that's not what that statement was referring to. not talking medicare here. health care is never free.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 27, 2004, 10:22:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NHattila
or we can go health care. during clinton's reign, 2.3 million people gained health care. under bush's- 3.8 million lost it.



Quote
Originally posted by NHattila
then tax payors are fronting your bills. that's not what that statement was referring to. not talking medicare here. health care is never free.
 



 Sorry dude not going to let you change your argument, too late!  I don't believe the 3.8 million number but that doesn't matter anyway.  I just love the typical liberal bull**** tactic of changing thier argument.

 I lost my insurance a couple of months ago.  My fault, not Bush's.  I'd like some proof that Bush cost 3.8 million Americans thier health care too, though I have a feeling I'll be waiting a very very long time for that proof.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 10:30:39 PM
there was no argument change, nor am i a liberal. medicare isn't really health insurance that the census bureau was referring to. it was referring to non-government funded types.

and the US census bureau is an institution controlled by the liberals. so they just make numbers up. :rolleyes:

why is it that texans must get so defensive over bush? i was just giving what maw was asking for, and you go and try for a personal attack. now i remember why i hardly ever post on this BBS.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: demaw1 on July 27, 2004, 10:42:06 PM
NHattila.......kyoto treaty.

   Left or right makes no difference ,I take up the challange.Thanks for responding.

  The treaty would really hurt the economy of the u.s. It also was I believe a way to lower the standard of living in the u.s. You see europe believes in equality we so far we believe in liberty.Its sad but that is changing to. Since you cant bring other countries up to our standard of living the  idea is to bring us down.Also the treaty would make some of our constitution/bill of rights null and void.I didnt say all just some, as it would give the world court the final say in somethings.I wish good people like you could just understand what is going on in geo politics and that some of this stuff might sound good but would in truth be harmful to you and me.China was exempt for how long I dont know,Russia under putin would not sign it,which had nothing to do with us.Please understand the world is doing its best to do away with our courts and put us under international courts system.They do that and they will sometime ;you can kiss liberty good by.The people that are really pushing this in this country are democrat leaders and sorry to say some republicans.It has to do with the 1 world goverment stuff which is slowly coming about.Right now syria is head of human rights committee in U.n. What does this have to do with treaty you ask?A lot, but cant go into it.I could tell You 1 thing that should scare hell out of you but this is already to long.

 Thing is whats the use,when so many people can say bush is as evil as hitler this country is just waiting to die.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 27, 2004, 10:50:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NHattila
there was no argument change, nor am i a liberal. medicare isn't really health insurance that the census bureau was referring to. it was referring to non-government funded types.

and the US census bureau is an institution controlled by the liberals. so they just make numbers up. :rolleyes:

why is it that texans must get so defensive over bush? i was just giving what maw was asking for, and you go and try for a personal attack. now i remember why i hardly ever post on this BBS.




 see there you go again.  I never said one word about medicare,  I've never used it and wouldn't know how to.  I never used it on any doctor visit before I had insurance, including surgery.  Who said anything about the census bureau?  (BTW I never got counted in the 2000 census)  

 As far as my defending Bush, it has nothing to do with me being Texan.   But when you say he cost 3.8 million Americans thier health care I'm going to call bullsh*t.  I'm going to wait for that proof.....

Just caught the personal attack part :lol   dude you're way too thin skinned for this board.   Please show me where I attacked you personally :lol   Though I know I'll be waiting for a while on that too because I didn't.

paranoia will destroy ya.....:aok
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: NHattila on July 27, 2004, 10:58:12 PM
yeah, i never said bush was an evil man, he is just making decisions he feels is right. good points on the kyoto treaty, have the same arguments with my friends. they have made same points as you. i didn't necessaily agree with the whole thing, but the basic theory of it was good IMO, but theory doesn't work in reality.

and the UN is a whole different story...perhaps a political nightmare that is to busy playing political power games to get anything done.

i'd type more ,but one arm is in a sling and worthless and the other has a broken finger. damn mountain bikes. this one finger punching get's annoying. yeah udie, i might be jumping the gun a little much, but i'm on some strong pain meds and had 2 beers. not thinking too clearly ;)
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: midnight Target on July 27, 2004, 10:58:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by demaw1
NHattila.......kyoto treaty.

   Left or right makes no difference ,I take up the challange.Thanks for responding.

  The treaty would really hurt the economy of the u.s. It also was I believe a way to lower the standard of living in the u.s. You see europe believes in equality we so far we believe in liberty.Its sad but that is changing to. Since you cant bring other countries up to our standard of living the  idea is to bring us down.Also the treaty would make some of our constitution/bill of rights null and void.I didnt say all just some, as it would give the world court the final say in somethings.I wish good people like you could just understand what is going on in geo politics and that some of this stuff might sound good but would in truth be harmful to you and me.China was exempt for how long I dont know,Russia under putin would not sign it,which had nothing to do with us.Please understand the world is doing its best to do away with our courts and put us under international courts system.They do that and they will sometime ;you can kiss liberty good by.The people that are really pushing this in this country are democrat leaders and sorry to say some republicans.It has to do with the 1 world goverment stuff which is slowly coming about.Right now syria is head of human rights committee in U.n. What does this have to do with treaty you ask?A lot, but cant go into it.I could tell You 1 thing that should scare hell out of you but this is already to long.

 Thing is whats the use,when so many people can say bush is as evil as hitler this country is just waiting to die.


Two words....

Punctuation
Paragraphs
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 27, 2004, 11:10:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NHattila

i'd type more ,but one arm is in a sling and worthless and the other has a broken finger. damn mountain bikes. this one finger punching get's annoying. yeah udie, i might be jumping the gun a little much, but i'm on some strong pain meds and had 2 beers. not thinking too clearly ;)




 well that would explain it then!  Don't drink with your meds maaaaan.  I say that seriously and not just because I'm newly sober.  But because I lost a friend a couple of months ago when she mixed xanax and alcohol.   She died as a result.
Title: back to the spin zone
Post by: Eagler on July 28, 2004, 05:18:18 AM
did O'Rielly take a happy pill or something?

what a night to go soft...

"would you sacrifice your child for Iraq"?

of course not nor would I "sacrifice my son to put out the fire at the abandon building" if he died in the line of duty as a fireman

or

"sacrifice my son to arrest the crack addict pimp" who pulled a gun and blew his head off at the traffic stop after running a red light ... he as a police officer died in the "line of duty"

no one is sending "their children" anywhere. they are adults who "chose" the military as their profession knowing the risks well before Iraq hit the radar screen..

they died in the "line of duty" and their sacrifice should not be spit upon by the likes of moore-on

that is two things most libs don't get ... "line of duty" and "sacrifice"

and then to shake his hand...

freakin bill, what a wimp
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Ripsnort on July 28, 2004, 07:34:22 AM
Typcial "put them on the defense" tactic that MM used. Very good execution too.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: mosgood on July 28, 2004, 08:33:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Udie
BS....

 90% of the medical procedures I've had came before I ever had insurance.  As a matter of fact the only time I've ever paid for medical service has been since I've had insurance.

 


Ya lost me.  What does that have to do with anything in the post you quoted?
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Bodhi on July 28, 2004, 09:04:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by demaw1
Thing is whats the use,when so many people can say bush is as evil as hitler this country is just waiting to die.


This country will cease to exist in it's current form and most likely break off into seperate factions within the next 75 years.  That you can blame on the progress of multi-culturalism.  People are too busy being anything but American.... the melting pot is dead.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Udie on July 28, 2004, 07:33:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mosgood
Ya lost me.  What does that have to do with anything in the post you quoted?



 read it again.  He said Bush caused 3.8 million people to lose thier healthcare.  That's not possible in the USA as you can go to just about any hospital and get healthcare even if you don't have money or insurance.  I know because most of the medical procedures I've had done were done well before I had any sort of insurance.

 Go to Ben Taub Hospital in Houston and look at all the illegals waiting in line for the "free" healthcare.  Ok not just illegals some Americans too.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: AWMac on July 28, 2004, 07:49:30 PM
Yadda ya wanna bet that Kerry thinks that Osamma Bin Laden is just misunderstood.... or just a bad childhood upbring.... ?

Kerry is a fool..... seen him today on the tube pattin and slappin the backs of his Democrat Vet Buddies...Like a 12 pack of Michael Moores....:rofl......Guess the Democraps forgot that Kerry protested the Nam War and tossed some medals over the White House gate... or were they his medals?   :rolleyes:
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Nash on July 28, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
lol Bill got pwned.

Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: demaw1 on July 28, 2004, 08:36:17 PM
My dear and well  respected MIDNIGHT.

   Darn thought you would have read my last post to you about my typing habits,oh well.

  Yes I know Iknow about the spelling,which I would give me a on and all the other stuff you and xtoronto have said about my what english skills.1. I deal with so many illigal aliens now that my limited english skills are warping.Try oh nevermind.
  2. I work hard all day, yes am paid well but getting older.like to come home relax sometimes goof around in here and not have to worry ABOUT HOW I TYPE SPELL SIT OR ANYTHING ELSE. now I am sorry I offend you and toronto but I dont want to take time to
 redo[ this and that] sometimes. Also I grew up and went to school in compton,know that doesnt mean anything to you but,some of my schooling during that time was emm,lets just say inturrupted. And yes my finger hit wrong letter on last word and no I am not going to change it........................... .........................lol
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Toad on July 28, 2004, 08:38:08 PM
I watched it. IMO, nobody got owned. It was incredibly boring overall. I expected better questions and definitely better follow-up questions from both. Bleah.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Nash on July 28, 2004, 08:43:19 PM
And that's why Bill got pwned.

It was his turf, and you can bet that all day the make-up chicks were giving him corner-like Rockyesque back rubs with his producer shouting in his face "You're the champ, Bill! Get him!"

Then he flailed about like a wet paper bag.

pwnage.

demaw: I sympathize with the gramatical stuff. I suck at spelling etc. also.

Just a suggestion... Plant your curser in a random location within your post three times, hitting the enter key each time. This will at least turn blackish looking walls of text into grey which is easier to digest.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Toad on July 28, 2004, 08:47:35 PM
We must have different definitions of owned.

Home field advantage or not, it was an uninspired performance by both parties.

Analogy? Like maybe the two last place teams in the NFL playing the last game of the season to a 3-3 tie then everybody agrees to just skip the overtime and go home.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Nash on July 28, 2004, 08:55:38 PM
Mike sold a coupla more tickets, Bill didn't draw blood, and dittoheads the nation over wet their beds last night. He got pwned.

Your expectations for a man walking into O'Rilley's studio (of all people) with the name 'Micheal Moore' and walking out of said studio with the result as what actually went down are too great, methinks.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Toad on July 28, 2004, 08:58:41 PM
Hey, if viewing it that way gives you a warm fuzzy, go for it.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Nash on July 28, 2004, 09:01:17 PM
lol... it's all ridiculous as it is... The only folks who ever thought different are the guys towards the top of this thread.

Ever imagine you'd be stepping in to defend the O'shrilly factor?

m'neither.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Toad on July 28, 2004, 09:03:46 PM
Yet another misconception. I'm not defending or promoting it. I doubt it I watch it 3X in a month and then only when there's a guest I want to know more about.

I just said I found it boring. Neither one of them put in an interesting performance.

Pretty much like the entire BBS of late, now that I think about it.  ;)
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: Nash on July 28, 2004, 09:06:18 PM
Just saying that "boring"= good result for Mike.

Yeah, I concur with the "BBS of late" comment wholeheartedly.
Title: No Spin Zone
Post by: AKIron on July 28, 2004, 09:12:34 PM
I was disappointed. Nothing new, both see it their own way and it's clear nothing will ever change that. I enjoyed Bill's interview with Al Sharpton much more.