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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nilsen on July 29, 2004, 06:55:32 AM
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(http://www.nrk.no/img/392845.jpeg)
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mmm Halibut...
still have about 15 pounds left in my freezer from my last trip... how much did it weigh?
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Nice little piggy.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040728/capt.gaem10107282301.hogzilla_gaem101.jpg)
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I went on a deep-sea fishing trip while in Panama city. Our boat probably caught 200+ fish. And not a single fish survived. Once reeled to the surface (from 80 feet or more) the fishs' instestines would pop out of its body. Fish that had to legally be thrown back were eaten by dolphins as soon as they hit the water. Saltwater fishing is definately more brutal than freshwater fishing.
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Sweet catches on both pics! Insande fish/pig. You havnt encounterd something scary till ya come face to face with a boar. :D
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Originally posted by SunTracker
I went on a deep-sea fishing trip while in Panama city. Our boat probably caught 200+ fish. And not a single fish survived. Once reeled to the surface (from 80 feet or more) the fishs' instestines would pop out of its body. Fish that had to legally be thrown back were eaten by dolphins as soon as they hit the water. Saltwater fishing is definately more brutal than freshwater fishing.
You are reeling them up too fast. you have to allow them to equalize pressure if you intend to release. Take your time, it's more challenging.
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We couldnt take our time, there were too many people on the boat, the fish would tangle everyones lines.
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Originally posted by storch
You are reeling them up too fast. you have to allow them to equalize pressure if you intend to release. Take your time, it's more challenging.
Exactly. Those fish you are catching are at fairly deep depths. Wreeling them up to quick puts incredible stress on the fish's body with the extreme and rapid change in pressure. The fish's body is adapted to the high pressure not the low, so when ya wreel em up to fast, their insides burst since they don't have to sustain the great pressure any more. Thus you get fish guts. Fishing 101. :)
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Originally posted by Habu
Nice little piggy.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040728/capt.gaem10107282301.hogzilla_gaem101.jpg)
What kind of tackle and bait did you use....
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
mmm Halibut...
still have about 15 pounds left in my freezer from my last trip... how much did it weigh?
160kg
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Originally posted by SunTracker
We couldnt take our time, there were too many people on the boat, the fish would tangle everyones lines.
Bummer. Our rules are two per boat (21's to 26's) We all have more fun that way and there is a guaranteed tow back if the undesireable occurs. BUT, all my friends have boats so it's easy to say.
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Originally posted by Ripper29
What kind of tackle and bait did you use....
Actually the picture is not me it is from the news wire. That pig is probably the largest ferel pig ever. You can read the story here.
Big Pig (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_re_us/hogzilla)
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Originally posted by Habu
Nice little piggy.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040728/capt.gaem10107282301.hogzilla_gaem101.jpg)
Ohh... theres one more the wont be comming to the con this year :(
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Originally posted by Habu
Actually the picture is not me it is from the news wire. That pig is probably the largest ferel pig ever. You can read the story here.
Big Pig (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_re_us/hogzilla)
I was going to say that no way that was a feral hog.
A couple of obvious points. The man is photo is back two or three feet thereby making the animal appear larger. Also the man is in a pit.
That is still one big pig.
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Storch that man is just behind the hog with his arm on the leg and his foot is only in the hole up to his ankle.
BUT anyway it is entirely possible that the hog was that big. There have been several "Hogzilla" types killed about an hour west and south from where I live. They have been found to be descendants of Eurasian boars that were brought over to the States by farmers in the early twentieth century.
If there was a way to trace wild hog family lineage back you would likely find that many of these "wild hogs" are mixed breeds between farm raised and escaped hogs. With some that have family that go back to the time of Hernando De Soto when he made his trek through the Southeastern United States in 1539.
These sorts of animals tend to live in areas near lots of water like a swampy region and cause massive amounts of damage to the area they move through.
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I'm with Storch on this one.
The Pig is focused in crystal clear but the man behind it is not (not talking about the face which might have been blurred deliberately). I'm going to take a stab at this (wild guess), I'll bet a P&S type camera was used. They just don't have the tight depth of field a fast lens on a 35mm film or DSLR camera has. The man and the Pig aren't in the same depth of field. I'm only going by the photo details but looking closely, it appears the man's hand isn't actually touching the pig as it appears to be a posed photo. The man is probably closer to 10 feet behind the pig.
The article claims the pig to be 12 feet long, no way. I'd say closer to 4-6 feet in length.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I'm with Storch on this one.
The Pig is focused in crystal clear but the man behind it is not (not talking about the face which might have been blurred deliberately). I'm going to take a stab at this (wild guess), I'll bet a P&S type camera was used. They just don't have the tight depth of field a fast lens on a 35mm film or DSLR camera has. The man and the Pig aren't in the same depth of field. I'm only going by the photo details but looking closely, it appears the man's hand isn't actually touching the pig as it appears to be a posed photo. The man is probably closer to 10 feet behind the pig.
The article claims the pig to be 12 feet long, no way. I'd say closer to 4-6 feet in length.
That was my basis for the hypothesis, the focus. That may be a 500lb pig. I've been shooting feral pig since the 1960s all over Florida. The biggest ones were in the 300lb range and that's a monster feral hog. The biggest ones are shot behind the agricultural packing plants in the rural counties. I've seen 1000lb hogs but never in the wild. Gotta call BS on this one.
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Originally posted by Reschke
If there was a way to trace wild hog family lineage back you would likely find that many of these "wild hogs" are mixed breeds between farm raised and escaped hogs.
Thats why they are called feral hogs, boars are a different animal than feral or "wild hogs".
Im a bit skeptical about the pig here though, if you read the story him and his hunting partner were the only ones to see the thing. They didnt call anyone else to come look at it, they buried it on the property. They give a good reason on why he wouldnt want the meat but as far as mounting the head animals with much larger heads are mounted on a regular basis. These facts made me wonder about the validity of it, I mean if there is a question why cant they just go dig up the pig and prove it.
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He he he I just realize something, there is nothing in here that wont be argued about lol......Personaly I dont even think it is a pig.
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Although the original link and pictures are no longer on the linked site there is a new story regarding the monster hog on the wire today.
Hogzilla was real (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20050322/ap_on_re_us/hogzilla)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050321/capt.ny11203212155.hogzilla_unveiled_ny112.jpg)
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Originally posted by SunTracker
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Saltwater fishing is definately more brutal than freshwater fishing.
As with most in-general statements on many subjects, this is BS.
Take a look at the "Culero yada yada" (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146031) thread started by Steve. Ignore our arguments if you like, see the pics Lizking posted when we started talking fishing.
The bay I'm inviting him (and would welcome others here) to is about 150 square miles of hypersaline water (one of 3 of this type in the world) and its average depth is less than 2 feet. One of his pics shows clearly the depth of water I refer to that we fish in commonly. Catch and release without trauma to sportfish is a common practice here.
culero
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In the pig pic, notice the angle of the shadow behind the man's right leg. Now notice the lack of any shadow on the man caused by the pig.
It is my opinion that the pig is in the foreground, no where near the man.
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Notice, the dude is standing a good eight to ten feet behind the fish. Ditto the guy with the boar. Common trick many nimrods use to take a more impressive picture.
Seen it done a thousand times.
Yawn.
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Did you read the article? They dug it up and measured and weighted the body.
The pig was real.
Read first. Type later.
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Originally posted by Habu
Although the original link and pictures are no longer on the linked site there is a new story regarding the monster hog on the wire today.
Hogzilla was real (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=7&u=/ap/20050322/ap_on_re_us/hogzilla)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050321/capt.ny11203212155.hogzilla_unveiled_ny112.jpg)
Heehee. I posted about this a couple of days ago as topic "Hogzilla exumed".
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So Culero, your argument that saltwater fishing is more humane and less harmful than freshwater fishing is: Showing a bunch of fish that have been caught with no plans on releasing them.
Well heres my evidence-(1) Freshwater fishing implements catch and release, (2) I have seen first hand how many fish survive on deep sea party boats, and also from saltwater fishing piers (3) I have pictures and videos (that I took myself) of how reefs are devoid of large fish and that they are even devoid of numerous fish.
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yes jackal I also saw the segment on hogzilla on national geographic. I was amazed that a feral hog could attain that size. feral hogs don't pause to eat for long, they are constantly on the go and are quite fit. perhaps there is a produce packaging facility nearby or the good residents of the area are feeding these animals and hoping to attract hunters. the man who killed hogzilla is a guide afterall. I still say bravosierra to the whole affair.
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Originally posted by SunTracker
I went on a deep-sea fishing trip while in Panama city.
I hear the fishing gets better when you get outside the city a ways.
-Sik
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Habu...read MY post. I was commenting on the trick of sportsmen standing behind their catch or kill to make it look more impressive.
Read the article...the hog wasn't as big by two feet of length and 200 pounds of the claimed weight.
I've seen quite a few feral hogs in my day...some that went well over 500 pounds. It may be big and very unusual but it isn't quite the monster that it has been made out to be.
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They also noted the super swine didn't quite live up to the 1,000-pound, 12-foot hype generated when Hogzilla was caught on a farm last summer and photographed hanging from a backhoe.
Donning biohazard suits to exhume the behemoth's smelly remains, the experts estimated Hogzilla was probably only 7 1/2 to 8 feet long, and weighed about 800 pounds.
That is from the article. Not 12 feet. The hog and the guide were not in the same focal plane in that image as they try to fool us into the hog being bigger than it actually was.
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The Stingray in my picture has a 4' body length, 6 foot width, with an 18" stinger; she weighed at least 150#, and had you stepped on her, the most likely outcome would be a drowning, as you could not pull the barbed stinger out of your leg while she fled to deeper water.
I have a 2" scar from a little stingray that hit bone on my ankle, and have "kicked up" 3-4' stingrays while gigging flounder. I have also castnetted mantas in the 12-14' range (their wing swirls on the surface look just like 2# mullet swirls, 8-10' apart), that had I not used the proper method would also have drowned me.
I have had my boat rubbed by whale sharks, had 500 pound tiger sharks leap completely over the cockpit, and been followed by 15' hammerheads while swimming. I have had Marlin run out 1500 yards of line before I could grab the rod and sit in the fighting chair and had unknown fish break 130 class boat rods (3/4" solid fiberglass).
I still like to flyfish for bass and bream in freshwater, though.
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I have had my boat rubbed by whale sharks, had 500 pound tiger sharks leap completely over the cockpit, and been followed by 15' hammerheads while swimming. I have had Marlin run out 1500 yards of line before I could grab the rod and sit in the fighting chair and had unknown fish break 130 class boat rods (3/4" solid fiberglass).
Congratulations, I see that you have passed 'Fish Stories 101' in college.