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Title: the speculation game
Post by: SELECTOR on July 29, 2004, 07:10:14 AM
2 new planes, 1 new tank..
what do you think?

plane 1.. new mossy
plane 2.. new p38
tank.. sherman..

first correct answer wins nothing:aok
Title: Re: the speculation game
Post by: whels on July 29, 2004, 08:42:11 AM
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
2 new planes, 1 new tank..
what do you think?

plane 1.. new mossy
plane 2.. new p38
tank.. sherman..

first correct answer wins nothing:aok


Ki84
early P38  or B24/B25
T34
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Post by: XtrmeJ on July 29, 2004, 08:44:43 AM
B29 (or some other bomber, B24 Maybe)
P38 (my greatest hopes)
Sherman Tank
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Post by: Kweassa on July 29, 2004, 08:57:03 AM
Ki-84
 P-38G/F or Yak-9M
 T-34 or Sherman
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Post by: XtrmeJ on July 29, 2004, 09:00:17 AM
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Ki-84
 P-38G/F or Yak-9M
 T-34 or Sherman


I hope your right on the tank. I'd rather have a T-34 then a Sherman. But we do need some American tanks. Either would do nicely.
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Post by: Blooz on July 29, 2004, 09:14:37 AM
German Heinkel 111

Japanese Betty bomber

King Tiger tank
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Post by: Jasta on July 29, 2004, 09:23:27 AM
He 111

Ki-84 LaLa killer

T-34
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Post by: Pongo on July 29, 2004, 10:14:34 AM
Ki 84
M4A3-75
TU2
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Post by: Karnak on July 29, 2004, 10:15:19 AM
I don't think that it will be a new version of an aircraft already in AH.  Pyro said that they would start updating the existing aircraft in versions beyond v2.01 and it doesn't make sense to add a P-38 or Mossie and not update the P-38 and Mossie already in AH.

I'll bet:

Ki-84-I-Ko Hayate "Frank"
Me410B-2 Hornisse
M4A3 E8 General Sherman



I'm real soft on the Me410.  I'd say Tu-2S or Pe-2FT otherwise.
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Post by: Furball on July 29, 2004, 12:49:31 PM
there is already enough american junk in the game, i hope its something from Russia/Japan (or british but im biased).

I'm hoping MiG-3U as a/c but i'm pretty sure its not. (my biased hope is that it is a B.35 Mossie, Spitfire L.F.V/IX/XIV or XVI, Beaufighter, Halifax III, Gloster Meteor III or a Gloster Gladiator)

As for tank its probably a Sherman - if it is i hope its the Firefly.  Be really nice if it is a T-34!
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Post by: YUCCA on July 29, 2004, 12:56:41 PM
Though TU2 was around till the 50's :P

I would like to see-

Bomber- B24
GV- sherman
Fighter- P47N or a beaufighter

:)
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Post by: Adogg on July 29, 2004, 01:01:47 PM
I'd love to see a beaufighter.
Firefly would be nice.
B-24 or He111
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Post by: OIO on July 29, 2004, 01:12:35 PM
id probably re-subscribe if it was a P-38J.

at least for a month or 2 until the autoretract crapola makes me quit again lol.
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Post by: Karnak on July 29, 2004, 01:19:50 PM
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Originally posted by OIO
id probably re-subscribe if it was a P-38J.

at least for a month or 2 until the autoretract crapola makes me quit again lol.

What is it about the P-38J that makes so many P-38 fans cream?

Why do you want your flaps to break?

It isn't reality.  It isn't like they would have held you from accelerating if they hadn't retracted.  The way a computer program looks at it is not "the preasure is getting higher, higher, ok, too high, retract flaps".  The computer simply has "if airspeed == x, retract flaps".  All your proposed change would do is look like this "if airspeed == x, break flaps".
Title: the speculation game
Post by: thrila on July 29, 2004, 01:58:44 PM
I believe it will be-

Ki84
A russian bomber
Sherman or T34
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Post by: Raptor on July 29, 2004, 02:06:56 PM
I have a strong feeling the ki-84 will be the new fighter and sherman the new tank
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Post by: Grits on July 29, 2004, 03:52:51 PM
Ki84
Yak9-M
Sherman M4E8
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Post by: Krusty on July 29, 2004, 06:56:28 PM
I'm hoping for:


Pe2 or Tu2 (russian medium bomber)
He111H or B-25B/C
portable 88mm flak vehicle! YEAH BABY! :P
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Post by: simshell on July 29, 2004, 07:42:53 PM
why does everbody think a KI84 is coming?
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Post by: United on July 29, 2004, 07:46:55 PM
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Originally posted by simshell
why does everbody think a KI84 is coming?

There was a huge 4-6 page thread concerning Ki84 performance charts, facts, and other sorts.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68547&highlight=Ki84
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Post by: Widewing on July 29, 2004, 07:53:04 PM
P-51A/A-36

Ki-84

76mm Sherman (could be late M4A3 or the "Easy 8)

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: United on July 29, 2004, 07:54:51 PM
Im betting Ki-84, Pe-2, a variation of the sherman.

Id much rather have a B-24 though :D
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Post by: Glasses on July 29, 2004, 09:24:51 PM
They better give  us the Ki-84 or I'll unleash my flying parachuting midgets upon the offices of HTC, and knaw Pyro's ankles in rage!!
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Post by: Wadke on July 30, 2004, 12:15:58 AM
Fighter: KI-84 Hayate
Bomber: Pe-8 or He-111
Tank: Sherman Firefly or T-34 or maybe a Su-152 :)
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Post by: Heiliger on July 30, 2004, 05:45:53 AM
I think it will probably be:

Fighter: KI-84
Bomber: B-24
Tank: Sherman or T-34


I hope for these (I can dream can't I?):

Fighter: He 219
Bomber: He 111
Tank: Not really tanks, but a Puma or SU-85 might be cool.
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Post by: Tails on July 30, 2004, 06:26:25 AM
Me-410 Hornisse....


I dont care what else we get, as long as we get a Hornisse :D
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Post by: OIO on July 30, 2004, 10:52:09 AM
The 38J is faster and lighter than the L model. Aka, accelerates better.

As for the other part, its been discussed to death. Do a search.
Title: the speculation game
Post by: SELECTOR on July 30, 2004, 06:03:53 PM
any one taking the p39 bet?
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Post by: Krusty on July 30, 2004, 06:39:50 PM
P39 would be a good early war plane
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Post by: simshell on July 30, 2004, 11:52:19 PM
il take that bet:p
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Post by: Krusty on July 31, 2004, 12:17:55 AM
But we REALLY need more early war bombers.
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Post by: Stang on August 01, 2004, 01:12:24 AM
I love these threads lol... no matter what we THINK they are making, HTC already knows, so just wait and quit trying to play AH Nostradamus!   :D

Frank would be nice to kill the lala though, and an early war 38 would strike fear in the hearts of the lame  :lol
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Post by: B17Skull12 on August 01, 2004, 02:26:40 AM
He111.  BoB would be made with this plane.
Ki84
I would pray jadgedpanther or panther but it ill nevar happen.
T34:(
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Post by: Stratocaster on August 01, 2004, 06:26:47 AM
WE ALL KNOW ITS A SHERMAN!... and another thing.. I hate that damn KI84 its ugly and its weird.. why cant we have the b24! or JU-87G!
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Post by: Mugzeee on August 01, 2004, 08:59:32 AM
Ki84 Frank.
He111
Sherman
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Post by: MOIL on August 01, 2004, 02:44:03 PM
Sherman ?

Thought you guys said this was a "flight sim"   why would HTC waste thier time modeling and adding an "afterthought" :rolleyes:
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Post by: Krusty on August 01, 2004, 03:57:48 PM
What the hell is with all the Ki84 requests?? If it isn't bad enough to already have the revamped Zero, you have the N1K2, the frank is as powerful and as fast as a N1K2 but turns as tight as a zero! What the hell kinda game you folks want? You GOT the zero AND the N1K2, why do you want an uber uber fighter mixed from the two? Dudes, just fly the planes we got, stop trying to make it impossible for people to ever kill you by wanting better planes, just fly better.

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Post by: Krusty on August 01, 2004, 04:34:29 PM
I wouldn't mind the Handley Page Heyford... if they could model it properly LMAO
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Post by: vorticon on August 01, 2004, 04:49:30 PM
ki84
re 2005
pe2
t-34
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Post by: Furball on August 01, 2004, 05:07:25 PM
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Originally posted by memnon

2 The Handley Page Halifax


whats so funny about the halifax?

(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/bomber/halifax/halif_infl.jpg)
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Post by: Krusty on August 01, 2004, 05:23:17 PM
But why add another "heavy"? The Halifax had a 13k load (where the lanc has a 14k) and flies about the same with the same performance as the lancaster. What's the point? New planes should *differ* from old ones somehow.
Title: Re: the speculation game
Post by: 68DevilM on August 01, 2004, 10:05:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SELECTOR
2 new planes, 1 new tank..
what do you think?

plane 1.. new mossy
plane 2.. new p38
tank.. sherman..

first correct answer wins nothing:aok


dont care about the planes, give me faster tank with a big turett!!!

Armament: 90 mm Antitank Gun
Crew: 5
Armor (max.): 12 - 50 mm
Speed (max.): 50 km/hr
Dimensions: ???
Weight: 28 ton

not so fast but a good fire power
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/357_1091414957_m36.jpg)

Armament: 90 mm Gun, MG
Crew: 5
Armor (max.): 102 mm
Speed (max.): 32 km/hr
Dimensions: 8.79 x 3.50 x 2.77 m
Weight: 41.7 ton

again, a good gun, and great armor
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/357_1091415055_pershing_1.jpg)

Armament: 76 mm Antitank gun, MG
Crew: 5
Armor (max.): 7 - 12 mm
Speed (max.): 80 km/hr
Dimensions: ???
Weight: 18 ton

this hellcat is from hell, you can out run a m3 and kill a tiger with one round!!!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/357_1091415201_m18.jpg)

ill give the sherman this. it does look cool, and i dont have the stats for range on the shermon, dont know the range on it gun?
Armament: 105 mm Gun, MG
Crew: 5
Armor (max.): 25 - 65 mm
Speed (max.): 40 km/hr
Dimensions: 6.16 x 2.67 x 2.79 m
Weight: 33 ton

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/357_1091415308_sherman_105.jpg)
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Post by: Mad38cat on August 02, 2004, 12:00:32 AM
Hmmm.....most shermans had a 75mm gun, and wimpy armor, so i would go fo the T-34, new bomber i would like to see would be the He 111 - just because it was used extensively by germany, the new fighter....thats a tough one....how bout a MIG-3, just because i think the MIG company should be represented here...since it is one of the largest aircraft companies.
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Post by: B17Skull12 on August 02, 2004, 12:07:04 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
whats so funny about the halifax?

(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/bomber/halifax/halif_infl.jpg)
hehehe, me and frined for a long timeargued which was better; B17 or Halifax.  I chuckle at the sight of one remeber how we would arguing during luch which was better.  Btw still say the 17 was better:D
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Post by: Tilt on August 02, 2004, 08:37:52 AM
Instinctively I would agree with many that based upon past discussions here

Ki 84 (HTC knows it would have mass MA appeal)

Tu2 (HTC were obviously planning for it at a previous stage)

Sherman (More mass appeal and slightly more popular than the T 34)

But with an eye to AH2 TOD then they may be looking to strengthen the 1944 WETO plane set.

Fighters be come a quandry then as its either model variations on existing stuff or the likes of the P39 which I would not have thought popular but could be argued as a valid. Or they may let their eye wander off TOD for this one.

Bombers then start to focus on the B24.

Sherman varients are  still valid
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Post by: -tronski- on August 02, 2004, 08:47:16 AM
Ahhhh the ubiquitous plane poll....


Having consulted the spirit guides the following images appeared....

Ki-84 (a gimme)
Firefly
Beaufighter Mk21/TF MkX or Gloster Meteor

 Tronsky
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Post by: thrila on August 02, 2004, 09:12:44 AM
Krusty, I don't believe that everyone that says the next plane will be the ki84 wants it.  My "what i want list" is a lot different to what i think will be modelled.


If i had my way it would be

Spit LF IX/ VIII
Seafire L III
Beaufighter
and maybe even the gloster gladiator and  swordfish.:)


Just saw tronski's post- a firefly would be nice too.:)
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Post by: Krusty on August 02, 2004, 11:14:37 AM
Heh.. I "want" an F7F Tigercat, ceiling 40,000+, speed 440+ 1x torp centerline and 2x 1k eggs under wing roots, 4x 50cal + 4x20mm to boot! 180 or so were delivered before the war ended (the rest were canceled).

About half of those were special  2-seat night fighters.
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Post by: Furball on August 02, 2004, 11:56:07 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Heh.. I "want" an F7F Tigercat, ceiling 40,000+, speed 440+ 1x torp centerline and 2x 1k eggs under wing roots, 4x 50cal + 4x20mm to boot! 180 or so were delivered before the war ended (the rest were canceled).

About half of those were special  2-seat night fighters.


if you yanks get your tigerpoop, i want a DeHavilland Hornet.. :D
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Post by: Canaris on August 02, 2004, 01:01:56 PM
Id like to see the Glostus Meteor, and early P38, and the T34.

Canaris
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Post by: Krusty on August 02, 2004, 01:16:15 PM
Actually for the Brits I think the Whirlwind would be in order, it's the equivelant of the f7f I'd think (late, twin engine design that didn't really see much if any combat)
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Post by: Karnak on August 02, 2004, 03:29:34 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Actually for the Brits I think the Whirlwind would be in order, it's the equivelant of the f7f I'd think (late, twin engine design that didn't really see much if any combat)

:confused:
Whirlwind entered service in 1940 and was withdrawn from service in 1941 (or very early 1942, I don't quite recall).
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Post by: Krusty on August 02, 2004, 04:24:54 PM
I thought it entered service, was plagued by problems, and only became operational (truly operational) towards the end of the war? I *might* be wrong.
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Post by: Karnak on August 02, 2004, 04:34:15 PM
No, it was an early war bird that didn't pan out and was canceled.

Westland wanted to replace it's Peregrines with Merlins, but given the cost of doing so the RAF opted to cancel it.  There was no further developement.
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Post by: SELECTOR on August 02, 2004, 05:12:59 PM
whirlwind had the potential to become a great aircraft.. unfortunatly at the time, efforts were put into other projects..
if i recall, it never got the engines it needed to become an outstanding plane...
it did see quite a bit of action though
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Post by: SELECTOR on August 02, 2004, 05:15:15 PM
another plane worth a mention is the supermarine spitefull..
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Post by: Krusty on August 02, 2004, 05:21:18 PM
The spiteful was the predecessor of the spitfire, right? And wasn't the spitfire in production until well after the war? Thus wasn't the spiteful a post-war plane?


(No, I honestly don't know, that's how I logically thought of it, but I'm really asking, wasn't it post-war?)