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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Adogg on July 29, 2004, 01:55:18 PM
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Reflector gunsights...
what was their advantage over iron sights?
How did they work?
Best,
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with iron sights ya gotta make sure your lined up. And dont mirror sights act like sunglasses and keep a little sunlight out?
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Reflector sights still had to lined up. They elminated head positional error because the pilot could not see the sight unless his head was in proper firing position. Iron sights allowed the shooter to fall victim to improper sight alignment. If his head was off to one side or the other the gun solution would be destroyed.
Both the USAAF, RAF, and the Luftwaffe developed gyroscopic or "predictor" gunsights. They both were very similar in function. Niether one worked well at all if you pulled any G's.
http://www.429sqn.ca/acmgs.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-th.html
That information about the Luftwaffe's ez42 gyroscopic gunsight not working as well is inaccurate. Pips Priller of JG26 tested the sight and concluded that the technology was it's infancy and needed work. He did not feel the "new growth" of Luftwaffe pilots would be able to handle waiting until the A/C was not under G's to shoot.
Crumpp
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The main advantage of a reflector sight is the ability to focus on the target while still seeing the sight in focus. Whatever distance the pilot focuses on the sight appears at the same distance. Modern HUDs are essentially reflector sights with the added ability to display information, and now we also have reflector sights on handguns called red-dot sights.
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There was an intermediate stage between iron and reflector sights - the Aldis tube. This was in effect a telescopic sight which didn't magnify - but when the pilot looked through it he saw a ring or similar aiming mark superimposed on the target, with both being in focus. It became the standard British fighter sight by the end of WW1, and was used by the Germans when they cold capture them.
A reflector sight essentially does the same job, but it's much more compact.
Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk) and Discussion forum (http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/)
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In the Classic series on the 262, the EZ42 is mentioned. It notes that the lead computing function was disabled because of problems. Most 262 pilots were not rookies. The Feb 45 attack on Dresden destroyed the Ziess(sp??) factory that was making a vital part for the EZ42 stopping production of the sight.
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Milo,
All the leading gyroscopic gunsight's developed during World War II had the same problem. Pulling G's would mess up the sollution.
Crumpp
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Originally posted by Crumpp
Milo,
All the leading gyroscopic gunsight's developed during World War II had the same problem. Pulling G's would mess up the sollution.
Crumpp
Nothing to do with pulling Gs.
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Yes Milo, it was.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yes Milo, it was.
NO lapdog., not in the 262
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Yes MiloMoron, it was.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Yes MiloMoron, it was.
LOL, Col Klink's lap dog yapping again.
see Vol 2 of the 262 series.:)
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Oh the "The man on TV said so!" argument. :rolleyes:
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If I remeber it right now, the K14 gyrogunsight demand a constant G pull for a moment (~5secs?) to give accurate impactpoint (in certain range?).
Any suddend G changes during targeting time and a new targeting procedure from the begining was needed.
BTW the pilot need to give (dial in) the target wing lenght (109, 110, 190 etc) before aiming procedure.
Maybe I remember it wrong. Need to re-find those K14 links.
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Your correct xjazz. I just like watchin Milo make an A** out of himself.
Crumpp
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Originally posted by Crumpp
Your correct xjazz. I just like watchin Milo make an A** out of himself.
Still with the reading comprehension problem Crumpet? And you with English as your primary language. :( :(
I never said what you said was wrong, :rolleyes: only that in the 262, for the few that were installed, had the sight disabled to function as a reflector sight and it was not because of Gs.
Now who looks like the bunghole now Crumpet? :aok
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Me thinks Milo needs a girlfriend. :p
Just put him on 'Ignore', Crumpp. Saves a lots of typing.
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Originally posted by VO101_Isegrim
Me thinks Milo needs a girlfriend. :p
Just put him on 'Ignore', Crumpp. Saves a lots of typing.
She is at work so I have time to comment on more of your manure.:).
Barbi, you should get one. It would do much for your disposition .:) Do you know what a woman is? Me knows that you don't.:aok
Now go chase some ambulances.