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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nash on July 29, 2004, 09:57:13 PM
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And, if I can borrow a phrase from Rude, I am sorry.
Republicans... Life as you knew it is over.
I just witnessed a guy become President months before an election even took place.
Do not, however, despair for a moment..
Because it's about to get a lot better.
My heartfelt to a nation that produces such men. You oughta be proud and for this reason you are indeed, the envy of the rest of the world.
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You just keep posting so we can see that avatar, we can put up with that nonsense in the post for the avatar.
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I've heard he said "Thank you" excessively and stumbled over his words as well.
As Mr. Wolf said the Pulp Fiction garage scene. "Let's not start sucking eah other's d&*k's quite yet". Kerry hasn't won s^&t yet.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Nash
And, if I can borrow a phrase from Rude, I am sorry.
Republicans... Life as you knew it is over.
I just witnessed a guy become President months before an election even took place.
Do not, however, despair for a moment..
Because it's about to get a lot better.
My heartfelt to a nation that produces such men. You oughta be proud and for this reason you are indeed, the envy of the rest of the world.
I'll go see this speech that so impressed you...
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Slam dunk
Yes he stumbled, honest stumbles - not for a lack of a thesaurus.
No "evil dooooers." He came across as honest and principled, not synthetic and schooled by a caravan of SUV's racing to a Texas ranch to school some moron alcoholic in world geography.
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omg.
anyone who agree's woth Mr. Kerry is Loco en cabasa.
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11:04 EDT and I just watched Kerry botch up what was turning out to be a very successful convention.
The debates are going to be akin to a Bevis and Butthead episode.
How can you possibly think Kerry did what he needed to do? This was his opportunity to tell the country what he stood for and he said nothing.
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Then you weren't listening.
Shack! Mr. Kerry
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OK Nash and MT, fair question, I think:
Would you care to list a few of the things in the speech that you found so powerful?
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>>This was his opportunity to tell the country what he stood for and he said nothing.
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HE SAID NOTHING??? Did you miss the part about outsourcing or did you just not understand it? What has George W. done to deter outsourcing???
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I was impressed, He spoke better then I think I have ever heard him.
Now on to the debates, They will be interesting.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Then you weren't listening.
Shack! Mr. Kerry
I was listening very intently.
What did he say in your estimation?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Would you care to list a few of the things in the speech that you found so powerful?
Google it then spend a few minutes trying to marginalize it, then head back here to mock it.
I dunno man...
Just watch it.
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Did not, did too!
Think I'll wait 'til November 2
to see who won, who made good his claims
but argue on and fan the flames
we've nothing else to do
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It was his best speech so far, but he was still weak, and he lost the election when he called for national health care. He will drop from now out in the polls, watch.
Also, did you watch it on CNN? At the end, when the balloons are supposed to drop and the confetti, they somehow got the stage director miked to the main feed. He kept saying, "the balloons, where are the balloons", "hold the confetti, Jesus, guys, no damned confetti", and finally, when the ballons still didn't drop, he said, "What the phluck!, where are the balloons!" CNN will be paying a big fine, and someone lost thier job tonight. Funny, though.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
>>This was his opportunity to tell the country what he stood for and he said nothing.
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HE SAID NOTHING??? Did you miss the part about outsourcing or did you just not understand it? What has George W. done to deter outsourcing???
I'm not watching either convention, but protectionism sucks.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
OK Nash and MT, fair question, I think:
Would you care to list a few of the things in the speech that you found so powerful?
His call to take the high road in the election, his commitment to build the military and end the "backdoor draft", his call to improve health care especially drug benefits for the elderly....
His pronouncement that OLD GLORY had no political party...
off the top of my head.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I'm not watching either convention, but protectionism sucks.
I disagree, Most of our nations history has been focused on protectinisn it was not untill resently that we started this global market crap,
All the global market meens is an end to any kind of vodoo econimics.
Just becasuse the upper class is making money does not mean it will trickle down any more, not the trickeling is going over seas
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(http://www.johnkerry.com/images/banner/072904_optimists.jpg)
Help is on the way!
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To capsulize some of what he said...
He would create an exit strategy when having to go to war. He wouldn't rely on some dumb notion that Iraqis would be pelting us with roses as we strolled off as liberators. See many roses in Iraq these days?
He would close the tax loopholes for companies that outsource jobs to place like India. Have you called a support line lately? Chances are you're talking to someone in India.
He would allow importing drugs from Canada - the pharmecutical companies are gonna love that one.
He would cross party lines in building a staff - I sense a cabinet position for Tom McCain.
Need more?
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
Did you miss the part about outsourcing or did you just not understand it? What has George W. done to deter outsourcing???
I heard it, I understood it.
I'm not sure he understood why the steel worker lost his job and the entire factory was shipped to another country though.
Do you?
Nor did I hear his solution to the problem other than
I strongly believe that America's workers can compete with anyone in the world as long as we have a fair and level playing field.
if you give the American worker a fair playing field, there's nobody in the world the American worker can't compete against.
(One of those quotes is from Kerry tonight and the other is from Bush 7 months ago. Interesting, eh? All we need is "fair trade". Hey, Nash & Thrawn, what do you think of the US's approach to "fair trade"? How's this all gonna work, you think?)
Fair trade is going to save all our high-paying jobs? Go ahead, make the case. I'll let Nash and Thrawn and a few other non-US folks clear the issue up for you most likely. ;)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
his commitment to build the military and end the "backdoor draft",
I have to admit I LOL when he said this one. I'm so dense I thought we paid the Guard and Reserve to actually be on standby to engage with the Regulars when necessary in time of conflict.
Apparently, I missed the part of the contract that says the Guard and Reserve either can't be used in combat/wartime or are limited to some nebulous number of days when called to active duty.
Can you help me here, MT?
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Originally posted by Toad
I heard it, I understood it.
I'm not sure he understood why the steel worker lost his job and the entire factory was shipped to another country though.
Do you?
US labor cost: $20 hr
3rd world labor cost: $20 a month
US factory profit: 10%
3rd world factory profit: 90%
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Originally posted by rpm371
(http://www.johnkerry.com/images/banner/072904_optimists.jpg)
Help is on the way!
God that chin is almost as obscene as Elway's or Leno's.
Karaya
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how is Kerry going to fix that rpm?
I mean so you tax companies who go overseas. The company is not going to eat that expensive so they either cut staff or cut staff and send more overseas.
Does he mean to put tariffs on stuff coming from overseas to? I really am confused on this.
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Originally posted by rpm371
US labor cost: $20 hr
3rd world labor cost: $20 a month
US factory profit: 10%
3rd world factory profit: 90%
Kerry will change this how? Honestly, how will he adress that reality?
Isnt Kerry also promising to raise the minimum wage? How will this help the jobs situation at home?
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I heard alot of hot air
empty promises, impossible to fullfill - words the hopeless wanted to hear, not realizing why things are they way they are and that the world is not a 30 minute sitcom, jerry springer or oprah show..
I saw a dumbacrat "war hero - war hater" (LOL that is so funny in itself it defies reason) who was speaking to a bunch of brain dead ppl in the audience who think just because herman said it, it will be so ...
I would want him to win just so I can see him crap out those 100k+ telecom jobs that burst with the bubble in 2000 - LOL
"AMERICA CAN DO BETTER"
no crap herman, who can't do better at anything at anytime ??
hot air double talk
all things even (which would never be with mr flip/flop and his side kick robin the ambulance chaser) the obvious fact our enemies want this guy to win is enough for me NOT to want him to
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My goodness.
This thread has just DIED!
All for lack of an explanation on "fair trade" saving our jobs and how the Guard can be "drafted".
Where are the Snowden's of yesteryear?
Mt? Nash? Tweety? RPM? Help us here? Give us insight into the "plan"!
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Originally posted by Nash
And, if I can borrow a phrase from Rude, I am sorry.
Republicans... Life as you knew it is over.
I just witnessed a guy become President months before an election even took place.
Do not, however, despair for a moment..
Because it's about to get a lot better.
My heartfelt to a nation that produces such men. You oughta be proud and for this reason you are indeed, the envy of the rest of the world.
So it's gonna be a shock when Bush is elected in a landslide.
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Originally posted by Toad
Where are the Snowden's of yesteryear?
(http://www.pogbird.com/ebay/snowden13.jpg)
just sold a butt load of them on ebay :)
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>>Mt? Nash? Tweety? RPM? Help us here? Give us insight into the "plan"!
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I would but I just typed a long response to a misplaced thread in the General Discussion group. While typing, the thread was locked - not moved - so my long typing went into the bit bucket, and I'm a little peeeeeeo'd :D
That was an unusual thing to do though - usually misplaced threads are moved, not locked.
Hey aint gota hit me with a brick - I can take a hint! :aok
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Will the real john kerry please stand up.
John kerry returns from vietnam,says he commited war crimes,throws his medals away,calls fellow soldiers baby killers.
Tonite calls fellow soldiers band of brothers.
John kerry votes against every weapon system that would help to save the lives of our soldiers including ones in use now.
Tonight promises every soldier a rifle and bullet proof vest.
John kerry promised to make sure if he says wmd are there then they will be.
John kerrys statement on senate floor and else where; We know for sure saddam has wmds and are reasonably sure he has or is close to producing a nuclear weapon.This cannot stand. [paraphaseing]
John kerry stands proud and salutes flag delagates go crazy,
John kerry talks with pride of his service in the nam,delagates go crazy
Many of the delagates are same people that spit on our vietnam vets and burned old glory. go figure.
John kerry says people who make 200,000 a year are rich and I am going to tax hell out of them.
People who vote for him are complete fools,who do you think buys the lux, cars, boats,new washer and dryers, take the vacations,have 5 cell phones,buys new beds every 2 years.put additions on there houses.etc. Yes please vote for him and vote yourself right out of a job.some body builds or makes all these things.maybe that some body is you.Remember the lux. tax on boats,within 1 and a half years there was only 1 company left building them thousands people lost good paying jobs.
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That "back door draft" thing... could it have ANYTHING at all to do with this?
The 'Peace Dividend' Returns to Haunt Us (http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Defensewatch_012904_Peace,00.html)
When the Cold War ended in 1992 the Armed Forces end-strength was 2.1 million, with about 772,000 in the Army. Following these reductions the numbers are about 1.3 million total, with 489,000 Army personnel.
Ya think?
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did anyone hear this:
http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc.mp3
DNC CONVENTION DIRECTOR DON MISCHER AIRED ON CNN AS KERRY ENDS SPEECH, HEARD WORLDWIDE: 'No confetti. No confetti yet. Go balloons. Go balloons. More Ballons. All balloons. All balloons. Come on guys, let's move it! Jesus. We need more balloons. I want all balloons to go, whoopee! No confetti. No confetti. No confetti. I want more balloons. What's happening to the balloons? We need more balloons. We need all of them coming down! Balloons. Balloons. Balloons. What's happening! They're not coming down. All balloons. Where the hell! Nothing is falling. What the fu*k are you guys doing up there? We want more balloons coming down. More balloons. More balloons'...
'WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU GUYS DOING UP THERE'
LOL
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Yeah, the Interceptor vest comment was a cheap shot too.
If you read the development/procurement history of the vest, it's clear that it wasn't really anyone's fault that the whole force wasn't equipped before 9/11.
Well, unless Congress wants to take the blame for failing to fund it at a higher level, right Senator? ;)
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Retarded...
First it was Kerry's ill-advised personal role in designing press passes and now he's chairman of the baloon committee.
Keep digging.
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I still am confused...anyone help me out with my questions?
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I heard it, it was nothing to do with Kerry, it was just funny. I wonder if it will cost CNN a half a mil. I know that Don Mischer is toast:
DNC CONVENTION DIRECTOR DON MISCHER AIRED ON CNN AS KERRY ENDS SPEECH, HEARD WORLDWIDE: 'No confetti. No confetti yet. Go balloons. Go balloons. More Ballons. All balloons. All balloons. Come on guys, let's move it! Jesus. We need more balloons. I want all balloons to go, whoopee! No confetti. No confetti. No confetti. I want more balloons. What's happening to the balloons? We need more balloons. We need all of them coming down! Balloons. Balloons. Balloons. What's happening! They're not coming down. All balloons. Where the hell! Nothing is falling. What the fu*k are you guys doing up there? We want more balloons coming down. More balloons. More balloons'...
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Dnil:
No, no one is going to help you out.
See, Kerry said some things in that speech that were just stupid, like the "back door draft" comment.
However it sounds good to those that don't really think about what he said.
To be fair, you'll hear similar fatuous nonsense out of Bush in NYC too.
It's just politicians playing to their favorite electorate, people who don't actually listen and then don't actually think.
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Originally posted by Toad
That "back door draft" thing... could it have ANYTHING at all to do with this?
The 'Peace Dividend' Returns to Haunt Us (http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Defensewatch_012904_Peace,00.html)
Ya think?
that was slick willie "downsizing the government" ..
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I don't see how anyone could be enthrawled with Kerry, it doesn't make sense to me. What has Kerry done with all his years in the Senate?
Kerry repulses me.
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Democrats.. God love em, noone else will.
Karaya
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How is he going to fix it? Looks like you didn't listen to the speech, did you?
That's OK, you can find the full text of it at JohnKerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html)
(http://shop3.kerrygear.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kerallysign.gif)
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Originally posted by rpm371
How is he going to fix it? Looks like you didn't listen to the speech, did you?
That's OK, you can find the full text of it at JohnKerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html)
(http://shop3.kerrygear.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/kerallysign.gif)
Why dictate a SPEECH, when you READ the Transcript? But to think all this time I was listening to it?!
Karaya
Give it up, he's a tool.
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Tweety bird.....Exit strategy.
anyone and i mean anyone that has studied just a tiny bit of battle strategy would know the moment the first round is fired all previous strategys are no longer viable..guess the Lt. missed that class.
Out sourceing started in 1997,the gov,sent english teachers to places like india to teach english then gave tax credits to certain companys to teach the workers how to do certain jobs...thing is some other compines started doing same thing and here we are.President in 1997...Clinton...
Tell us tweety, the last important drug canada or mexico invented.Most drugs are invented in America and there fore there is a high cost in r and d.
You cant tax companies that go over seas all they have to do is merge with a european union japanese or canadain company and us gov. cant touch them.ya kerry voted for this bill to and wonder who signed it into law. why you think so much merging has gone on.
YOU know must of u know so little about geo politics and history its sad.If you want proof you look it up maybe you all can do in 10 minutes what it has taken me years to learn .more power to ya.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Why dictate a SPEECH, when you READ the Transcript? But to think all this time I was listening to it?!
Huh? :confused:
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Originally posted by rpm371
Huh? :confused:
Let's spell it out for you. The PURPOSE of LIVE SPEECH is to HEAR IT, not to READ IT LATER.
Karaya
I thought the cussing at the end was a nice touch to the party of Jackprettythanges.
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This is the problem I have. Deep down in my soul, I believe the Iraq war is a war of revenge. And I really cant fault George W. for that. Saddam DID put a bounty on his father's head. His father SHOULD have went to Bahgdad (or so the Hawks thought). And George W. was schooled, crammed, and sythesized by the group of "Hawks" (from the first Bush's administration) arriving in the dead of night in Texas. But he did a half- donkey (gotta watch that censor) job. He had NO exit plan. He sold us a bill of goods. We'd be welcomed as liberators and waltz out on a bed of roses. There IS NO EXIT from Iraq. We will be there forever, and we will constantly take casualties. Someone, anyone, tell me how the United States can EVER leave Iraq. It can't be done. We are the new Israeli army, and Iraq is the new Gaza strip. You know - maybe - just maybe, his father was smarter when he resisted the Hawks in the first Bush administration who told him to go to Baghdad. Maybe he knew, if we did, we could never leave.
And now we can never leave.
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LOL RPM. He surely didn't provide any workable solution for "fixing" the job loss situation.
close the tax loopholes that reward companies for shipping our jobs overseas
Yeah, you bet; raise their dang TAXES! That'll endear them to the US! Close enough and you'll simply cause the entire company to move out of US tax jursidiction. Curval over in Bermuda can explain this to you.
we will reward companies that create and keep good paying jobs where they belong
Oh? So we'll like... subsidize them or something? :rofl That might be a problem when he goes around to our world trading partners and tries to
trade and compete in the world. But our plan calls for a fair playing field – because if you give the American worker a fair playing field, there's nobody in the world the American worker can't compete against.
Subsidizing our industries isn't exactly "leveling the playing field" from say a ... Canadian point of view, is it Thrawn?
And
there's nobody in the world the American worker can't compete against
right?
Surely not that Chinese steel worker that gets $20/month (your number) and whose country has MFN status with the US right? And we can absolutely count on the Chinese to scrupulously follow the "fair trade" rules themselves in any event.
How long is it going to take you guys to figure it out?
Springsteen told ya in '84.
Now Main Street's whitewashed windows and vacant stores
Seems like there ain't nobody wants to come down here no more
They're closing down the textile mill across the railroad tracks
Foreman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back to your hometown
Nobody's going to change it.. not Bush or Kerry. It's the "world economy" everybody wanted. Get used to it.
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WE MUST NEVAR FORGOT, BOOSH IS HILTER, LIKE KERRY SAID!!!1
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TWEETY......REVENGE
I dont think it was revenge for 1 thing there is another reason we went in very hush hush. Gee I am a nobody that has read a lot of history and warfare history since 6 th grade I pretty much came to same conclusion bush did before he did .I wasnt taught by hawks, doves or tweety birds. We were treated as liberators and there were flowers ask anyone who was there.
there is so much going on there that is good but you dont here that.Even that great liberal geraldo R. says so.
There are 3 ways I know to get out it just isnt that hard.gees tweety sometimes I think you all give the muslims the power of a god.
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You must not have understood what Springsteen was writing about. He was talking of the industrial decay that occured in the 80's and is happening again. Altho he endorses no candidates, he seems to not care for Dubya much.
Springsteen has been openly critical of the Bush administration.
A May 26 speech by Gore criticizing Bush is reprinted on Springsteen's Web site, http://www.brucespringsteen.net, preceded by a message from The Boss.
"A few weeks ago at N.Y.U. Al Gore gave one of the most important speeches I've heard in a long time," Springsteen tells fans. "The issues it raises need to be considered by every American concerned with the direction our country is headed in. It's my pleasure to reprint it here for my fans."
The speech is then quoted: "George W. Bush promised us a foreign policy with humility. Instead, he has brought us humiliation in the eyes of the world."
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Where'd that textile mill go, RPM?
Seen any textiles around lately that say "Made in China" on the tag?
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Yep, I'd like to see more that say "Made in the USA". That's why I'm voting Kerry/Edwards.
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Edwards gave a better speech....but then again edwards has a personality. Not to mention he actually sounded like he will FIGHT the war on terror.
Kerry sounded like he was going to form the best committe EVAR and with the support of france we will make some arrests.
maybe kerry's flip flop video says more than his speech did.
BUT.....he's speaking to his crowd so his opinion at the time has to fit the crowd......does he even have an opinion on the war on terror?
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RPM.....try reading once in a while the dems are pushing much harder for 1 world gov than repubs. Along with th E.U. they are the force that will bring it about if its to be.I already said outsourcing started under clinton what did you not understand about that? or you just dont what to understand. Darn rpm you are goofy at best humility went out the window when the towers came down...you dont understand that?
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Thes best part is that Kerry will change his views about 5 more times between now and November.
Anyone who votes for someone who does not maintain a steady belief is a fool.
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Demaw, I didn't know Bill Clinton was running for office again. All of us want OBL and the rest of Al-Queda brought to justice. Nice attempt at a troll, but poor choice of bait.
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still didnt answer the questions I asked rpm....toad tried and I appreciate it.
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"And I will appoint an Attorney General who actually upholds the Constitution of the United States."
Great...I feel another Janet Reno otw. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzalez.
"We will add 40,000 active duty troops — not in Iraq, but to strengthen American forces that are now overstretched, overextended, and under pressure. We will double our special forces to conduct anti-terrorist operations."
Congress has already voted and approved this.
"You don't value families by kicking kids out of after school programs and taking cops off our streets, so that Enron can get another tax break."
Huh?? Can someone explain that last one? What does Enron have to do with that?
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what is truely scary is the fact a boner like skerry kerry can have a following at all ..
who was it skerry or boy robin which stated that they would never allow another terrorist attack in the US again?
that is one for the video archives ...
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Originally posted by rpm371
Yep, I'd like to see more that say "Made in the USA". That's why I'm voting Kerry/Edwards.
Yeah, wouldn't we all.
However, it's not going to change no matter who you vote for or which guy happens to win.
The President isn't going to change the loss of "good" jobs to overseas competition.
Well, not if he really sticks to "fair trade" policy.
You simply choose to ignore the facts. For various reasons, goods can be made far more cheaply in underdeveloped countries. If you have a "fair trade" policy, there's no way we can compete if we comply with "fair trade" rules.
Now, if you want to you can subsidize our industry. That'll keep jobs here. But it's not "fair trade", that's "protectionism".
See the problem yet?
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I still remember Billy "Now with this Health Care Card anyone will be able to get medical treatment", that was around the end of his first 100 days in 1993. Nothing ever materialized. When Democrats get on their soapboxes, I'm always reminded of the sound that my parents' Cuckoo Clock makes.
Masher
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Originally posted by demaw1
Tell us tweety, the last important drug canada or mexico invented.Most drugs are invented in America and there fore there is a high cost in r and d.
Companies don't throw out all thier equipment and kill their trained scientists every time they finish a drug project and start over with retards that need to be trained again.
R & D costs DO NOT justify MOST of the prices charged for drugs. The monopoly on distribution is why they can do it.
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Originally posted by Toad
I have to admit I LOL when he said this one. I'm so dense I thought we paid the Guard and Reserve to actually be on standby to engage with the Regulars when necessary in time of conflict.
Apparently, I missed the part of the contract that says the Guard and Reserve either can't be used in combat/wartime or are limited to some nebulous number of days when called to active duty.
My thoughts, exactly. He was simply pandering to the mothers and fathers of the whiners (and to the whiners themselves) who joined the reserves/ guard for the extra income or for educational benefits, etc and didn't actually think they might have to fulfill their end of the bargain.
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Originally posted by mosgood
Companies don't throw out all thier equipment and kill their trained scientists every time they finish a drug project and start over with retards that need to be trained again.
R & D costs DO NOT justify MOST of the prices charged for drugs. The monopoly on distribution is why they can do it.
It maybe high drug costs are becasue of r&d but the problem I have is Y are they cheaper every else but here, The Us community is taking it up the bellybutton with a baseball bat, while the rest of the world gets cheaper drugs. then they want laws passed so americains have to buy the drugs made in americal from other countries to lower the costs. Tell Me does this make sense???????
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I think Nash was trolling. I agree with Lizking, asking for Socialized Medicine was bad ju-ju. Any thoughts I had to vote for Kerry just left.
Toad laid it out well too... no specifics from Kerry, but when you look at what he said... just rhetoric. Worse, dishonest rhetoric. It's the Moore approach, hammer 'em with emotion. "Made in America!" "Socialized Medicine!" "Free the Whales!"
My consistant view on Kerry is he is a poll-driven presidential candidate.
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Ok so he is a uniter and not a divider...where have we heard this before.
He is taking the highroad...fine...great, all his supporters ie. hollywood, special interest groups will do the mudslinging instead. Just for clarification...mudslinging has been a part of american politics since the start, I don't enjoy it, but I see through it.
He proposed things that Bush already has on the table.
So he is going to tax us more AND have national health care...ok so will the price of housing, gasoline, milk, food etc go down...i doubt it so I can buy even less with my money now. Not that it is all that great to biggin with, but my purchasing power will go from middle class to lower-middle class.
So he is going to bring repubs in the cabinet...how many 1 or 2? Let me see who else has done that.
I don't like Bush, but Kerry is no better and a bit worse IMO.
and Edwards speech was better.
Personal Voting record
Bush '92
Clinton '96
Bush '00
'04? whoever pisses me off the least
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Ah Democrats and Republicans fighting over whose team is better. Fantastic, reminds me of high school. A bunch of dumb blonde cheerleaders rooting for their team of which they really didn't understand or care to, just as long as they could cheer.
Go team!(http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/sally/spineyes.gif)
-SW
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Originally posted by Kieran
I think Nash was trolling.
Wha..... Wait a.... Who.... me....? ;)
(waves "hi!" to Kieren)
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Ah Democrats and Republicans fighting over whose team is better. Fantastic, reminds me of high school. A bunch of dumb blonde cheerleaders rooting for their team of which they really didn't understand or care to, just as long as they could cheer.
Go team!(http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/sally/spineyes.gif)
-SW
Got it. If you don't care, why bother posting?
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I don't care to vote for, or belong to, either party, but I do enjoy bashing both.
-SW
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Why would I want to watch some feeble minded Jane fonda Lover Speak....he said all I wanted to hear in the 70's....He was a traitor then and is still a traitor today. ask his squadies what they think of his service to this country.....and those medals they keep talking about....they forgot to mention he threw those in the trash during his USA bashing back in the 70's. Good thing there are more republicians than dumbocrats!
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Originally posted by koda76
Why would I want to watch some feeble minded Jane fonda Lover Speak....he said all I wanted to hear in the 70's....He was a traitor then and is still a traitor today. ask his squadies what they think of his service to this country.....and those medals they keep talking about....they forgot to mention he threw those in the trash during his USA bashing back in the 70's. Good thing there are more republicians than dumbocrats!
This should be posted on the wall at the DNC. It'll make them all feel good.
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Originally posted by demaw1
Tweety bird.....Exit strategy.
HMM maybe I am naive but I trust JK will have a great exit strategy, he was in country only what 4 months?
Hes a planner that one.
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Originally posted by demaw1
anyone and i mean anyone that has studied just a tiny bit of battle strategy would know the moment the first round is fired all previous strategys are no longer viable..guess the Lt. missed that class.
I think you may be confusing stategy and tactics.
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Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org/)
Hey, it's a protest vote; what can I say.
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(http://www.lp.org/images/front/sean-haugh-thumb.jpg)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
-SW
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Now post the pic of Kerry in the NASA bunny suit and Bush in his nasal radiator gear.
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what we need is a bet. republiclowns bet on their man and the democraps do the same. losers never come back to the bbs. ever.
...actually, it would be nice if both went away. especially the humorless ****s.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
.... When Democrats get on their soapboxes, I'm always reminded of the sound that my parents' Cuckoo Clock makes.
I am reminded of a sound too, the sound my bowels make in the morning ...
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I'm saving this post. I'm going to relish pushing this in your (Kerry whackos) faces when he loses by almost double digit %
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Originally posted by NUKE
So it's gonna be a shock when Bush is elected in a landslide.
Just so it won't be a shock to you when it isn't a "landslide":
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-07-28-6-differences_x.htm
Neither candidate has a lock.
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Originally posted by TweetyBird
HE SAID NOTHING??? Did you miss the part about outsourcing or did you just not understand it? What has George W. done to deter outsourcing???
You don't remember the "Steel Tariff?" It was designed to create greater dependance on US made steel. After 21 months, President Bush was forced to end the tariff.
"But it faced a barrage of complaints from steel-consuming industries, according to the AP, who claimed the higher prices they had to pay were costing more jobs at U.S. steel companies than were being saved. "
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/04/elec04.prez.bush.steel/
If Kerry gets in, he may enact outsourcing initiatives but he will be forced to end all of them in order to keep US jobs, prevent inflation, and to appease the World Community. Although, because I know Kerry's style (being a longtime Boston resident myself), if he prevents one job from going overseas, he will endlessly claim how successful his program was.
MiG
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Thrawn......confused the to words
tactics: the military science of securing objectives set by strategy. websters.....I didnt cut class.
Aks wulfe: You better hope the right one gets in or one of those terrorist infilltrating texas and arizona is goin to stick one of those long curved knifes up your b_ _ _. lol
Mossgood: Econ. 101...Canada and mexico buy the medicine in huge bulks as they have socialized medicine.There fore the cost is much less.example: if I buy 10 2by 4s from lumber co it will cost me .32 a foot. If I buy 100 2by4s from same lumber co it cost me .22 a foot. 95 percent of all medicines that help human beings are discovered in America and no where else.You want to mess that up go ahead.
Not sure what you mean by kill scientist but if I got it ,No they dont and that was dumb ,but lets say a company is researching a cure for xy.It takes 4 years before they find it then it is tested in blind test for 1 year say 1 year test with animals they go back and change it because little something bad then do test again.Now they wait couple years for gov, to certifi it.Now they find out only works a little so back to drawing board 5 years latter they have cure and all is happy.Who do you think paid for the failures ya us then when all is said and done canada and mexico come along and buy in bulk he he he ya go ahead and change it lol.
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The speech was really good except for the usual lack of specifics.
"Hope is on the way!" Yeah, right. My question is how so?
Before you Bush supporters get al high and mighty on how vague Kerry's speech was, Bush's isn't going to be any less vague. They never are.
The politician's MO is this: Promise the most you can with the least specifics you can so you don't have to be called on anything in particular when you aren't actually delivering.
Since this is the DNC that just finished, please tell me what specifics they mean when they say "Help is on the way!"
I want specifics.
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Kerry did say he was going to raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of Americans. Never mind that these people already pay 46% of all income tax already.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
The speech was really good except for the usual lack of specifics.
"Hope is on the way!" Yeah, right. My question is how so?
Before you Bush supporters get al high and mighty on how vague Kerry's speech was, Bush's isn't going to be any less vague. They never are.
The politician's MO is this: Promise the most you can with the least specifics you can so you don't have to be called on anything in particular when you aren't actually delivering.
Since this is the DNC that just finished, please tell me what specifics they mean when they say "Help is on the way!"
I want specifics.
You want specifics, here is what we get from Kerry/Edwards:
Health Care for every American - not any just helthcare but the same healthcare Senators and Congressmen get right now.
John Kerry will create 10 million new Jobs!
Tax cuts for 98% of americans!
A bigger military! More money there.
Tax subsidies (lower taxes) for companies to produce in the USA.
More tax incentives to make manufacturing jobs.
More spending on education.
Tax breaks on healthcare.
Oh yea, and:
A balanced budget!
This is going to be awesome! Everyone gets something they like!
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Hey, so now he's a magician?
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I'd like a view from the Kerry supporters. You Bush supporters can tell me about Bush's plans after his speech.
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Originally posted by Nash
And, if I can borrow a phrase from Rude, I am sorry.
Republicans... Life as you knew it is over.
I just witnessed a guy become President months before an election even took place.
Do not, however, despair for a moment..
Because it's about to get a lot better.
My heartfelt to a nation that produces such men. You oughta be proud and for this reason you are indeed, the envy of the rest of the world.
Obviously a man who is easily moved.
Tell us. does the music to "Lassie" bring you to tears also?:D
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Originally posted by Steve
Kerry did say he was going to raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of Americans. Never mind that these people already pay 46% of all income tax already.
It would be a good joke if half the population didn't fall for it. :(
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I'd like a view from the Kerry supporters. You Bush supporters can tell me about Bush's plans after his speech.
I'm sure Gaylord will be here shortly.
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Hmm some very familiour words there.
LOL anyone who has followed politics for more then 15 min at a time knows that Talking about what they are going to do is one thing.
Actually DOING it is usually something entirely different.
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You want specifics, here is what we get from Kerry/Edwards:
Health Care for every American - not any just helthcare but the same healthcare Senators and Congressmen get right now.
John Kerry will create 10 million new Jobs!
Tax cuts for 98% of americans!
A bigger military! More money there.
Tax subsidies (lower taxes) for companies to produce in the USA.
More tax incentives to make manufacturing jobs.
More spending on education.
Tax breaks on healthcare.
Oh yea, and:
A balanced budget!
This is going to be awesome! Everyone gets something they like!
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Cripes, what is Bush's platform anyways? I mean asside from being a "peace President".
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Hey, so now he's a magician?
Help is on the way!
And I forgot:
Tens of thousands more police officers to keep watch over our safety.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I'd like a view from the Kerry supporters. You Bush supporters can tell me about Bush's plans after his speech.
Then I suppose you ought to post this on a Democrat-only BBS. Just a suggestion.
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Originally posted by Kieran
Then I suppose you ought to post this on a Democrat-only BBS. Just a suggestion.
And why is that? I'm interested in the opinions of the Kerry supporters that post here on this BBS.
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I think he means if you post that question here, you'll get replies from both sides of the isle.
How uncouth, eh?
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I know this is a predominately Republican/conservative BBS. Because there are those that aren't, I was hoping to see specifics that Kerry's speech alluded to by the vague "Hope is on the way!" Because we have a very outspoken conservative majority, I didn't want the responses from the proKerry side buried, hence my request.
If Bush utters an equally vague "quote" I'll ask the same here of the Bush supporters.
I wonder if Kieran will pipe in with my posting to a Republican only BBS comment. I doubt it ;)
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I thought his speech was inspiring and well written. Well spoken. Im not a liberal or a conservative but I thought it was good. I make up my own mind.
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>>I make up my own mind.<<
You are the 15% it was directed to. I have no doubt George Bush will also direct his speech to you and both hope you decide in their favor. They really aren't worried about the people who are staunch Republicans or staunch Democrats. They have them or they don't - period. They are weight, cattle, - sheeeep! They are interested in those seriously considering the election.
Personaly, I can't wait for the debates.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I know this is a predominately Republican/conservative BBS. Because there are those that aren't, I was hoping to see specifics that Kerry's speech alluded to by the vague "Hope is on the way!" Because we have a very outspoken conservative majority, I didn't want the responses from the proKerry side buried, hence my request.
If Bush utters an equally vague "quote" I'll ask the same here of the Bush supporters.
I wonder if Kieran will pipe in with my posting to a Republican only BBS comment. I doubt it ;)
I would certainly tell you the same thing if you asked people on a public BBS to refrain from responding after you posted the question on an open forum- if I happened to be here reading, which I am not very often. Toad is right, if you post on such a hot topic on the public forum, no way will one side or the other stay out.
I guess let me do it pre-emptively: If you want conservative-only responses to your Bush speech thread, post it on a republican-only BBS. There, that takes care of it in case I am not around. :)
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Originally posted by Nash
And, if I can borrow a phrase from Rude, I am sorry.
Republicans... Life as you knew it is over.
I just witnessed a guy become President months before an election even took place.
Do not, however, despair for a moment..
Because it's about to get a lot better.
My heartfelt to a nation that produces such men. You oughta be proud and for this reason you are indeed, the envy of the rest of the world.
gave it to fast. well written, delivery poor.
and now we know he got no bounce. DOA.