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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: artik on July 31, 2004, 01:06:21 AM
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Give you favorite top 5........
It is not discussion about best plane......
Not discussion about what your would choose as good plane
It is just like poll
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- Bf 109G-10 - it is my favorite ride - most suprior fighter plane in game - when you want to have an advantage - it is for you
- Yak-9U - If I want something different - something more challanging - it is for me.... it is fast enough to be ably to disegage... it is has great handling, grat views - I just like this plane - not because of perfomance - just like it.... My first love from scenarios - Nieman
- Il-2 - When I get thick of newbees gamplay at MA and want something differ - nothing better then to kill couple of GVs trying to capture your base
- Boston III - yes it is not mistake..... Whne I want to make bomber ride.... I hate long climb in B-17G.... anyway I don't know to hit in gunner position..... I prefere to not be engaged by aircrafts..... it is something that gives you some danger...... you climb get at fast speed into target area when most of defence fighters low drop you bombs and disengage. To find best way in enemy theritory - best way to enter/exit - far from enemy bases/radars - it is one of fastest level bombers in AH.... so if I need something different - more tactical thinking it is for me.
- Ar-234 - yes - my favorite..... I usually fly is signe Ardo to HQ and drop bombs.... I try to enter shortest way - trying to be visible less time on radars to make enemy forces to panic..... there allways will be Me-163 that will roll to try to intersept........ and he allways finally get close to me........... And then the are braking tryning not to get hits from rear guns.... he makes couple of engeges and the returns - without fuel.... And I go home safly.....
Tell me about your favorite rides......
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FM-2 to earn perks C Hog to lose them.
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1 P-47 any model/ It is fast carries lots of ord and surprisingly manuverable with flaps.
2 F4U any model/ same as above.
3 Ki 61 / seen not very often and good for speed and manuvering.
4 P-40E / same as above.
5 mosquito / It has very good acceleration, arrmament, and range. plus it makes people mad to be shot down by one. :D
And I fly very early war plans like Spit Hurr Mk1, P-40B, 109E,and 202 for some kicks and lots of perks/kill.
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In no order:
109F-4 (w/gonds)
F4F-4
190A-5
P47-D-11
F4U-1
Also rans:
C205
Hurricane I
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190d for all purpose (i'll get low and slow with almost anyone.. ask em LOL)
109f for capped bases
190a5 to trick ponies / lala's into fights
why??
LW only in our squad (except last week of each quarter.. thats last week march, june, sept, dec for you that can't count LOL)
i choose dora for guns first, then speed to escape 4 spit V's and 3 zekes, that always end up on my 6.
109f because it can hang with almost everything in AH. outturns drastically that which it cant out run.... so on.
a5, sneaky good in many aspects (plus i want to secertely best my CO in it)
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Yak-9U - If I want something different - something more challanging
Lol there are few planes less challenging.
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Originally posted by Steve
Lol there are few planes less challenging.
That's a bit rich, coming from a PonyDweeb. :lol
;)
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Let's see. Yak out turns pony, out climbs pony, is as fast as pony on the deck(no wep), out accelerates pony, dives as well.
1v1 the advantage is Yak all the way.
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FW190A5 - I like the way it looks
P47D40 - gotta love eight .50's
YAK9U - nice base defenders plane
F6F - good all around tough Navy plane
P38L - two engine security for attack missions
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109F4 - Just a fun plane to fly.
Il2 - Shocking what this plane can do for base D ;)
190D9 - Untouchable troop porker...DT's and the cannon are enough to take 4 bases down.
109G2 - The dark horse.
109G6 - Sometimes the 30mm is worth it ;)
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Originally posted by Steve
Let's see. Yak out turns pony, out climbs pony, is as fast as pony on the deck(no wep), out accelerates pony, dives as well.
1v1 the advantage is Yak all the way.
Well imagine how I feel. P51 out turns F4U, outclimbs F4U, is faster than F4U, out accelerates F4U...
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5. P-38 - It can carry a big ordnance payload
4. P-38 - Excellent in the vertical
3. P-38 - Can out turn Spitfires
2. P-38 - Can out turn N1K2
1. P-38 - It's an EZ-Mode plane
that's my top 5 list.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
5. P-38 - It can carry a big ordnance payload
4. P-38 - Excellent in the vertical
3. P-38 - Can out turn Spitfires
2. P-38 - Can out turn N1K2
1. P-38 - It's an EZ-Mode plane
that's my top 5 list.
ack-ack
Ever try the P38? I hear it's pretty good..
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P-51 cause I love killing Yaks
P-51 I love bnz those lala dweebs
P-51 cause I love killing cry babies
P-51 and I love killing Doom
P-51 love being chased by 10 planes over 3 sectors
P-51 Damn I love this plane
Did I mention P-51 is a good plane
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1. P38 its the easiest to fly...
2. p38 its the sexiest
3. p38 its got 2 props
4. p38 it has the best gun package in the game
5. p38 akak likes it
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Oh yeah I also fly the Henway a little bit.
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Yak9T (yes I KNOW everyone fly's the other one.) because I love seeing planes go BOOM when that 37mm hits em. They are great for buff killing, and I enjoy hunting low spit/nik/hurri in them. Come to think of it I love hunting low p51s, tiffys, and 109/190's in it too.
You know its just fun to fly that little girl.
La7, My mainstay of AH1 its mostly a hanger queen now. Unless I need to get somewhere very very fast. The thrill is gone, too many people fly it. Eveyone now knows how to defend against it. Its a shame, we had some good times.
Yak9U Is ok, not as much fun as the 9T, but faster, harder to get kills IMO with the guns package. But its better in a turn fight than the T.
I fly a wide variety of attack planes.
Each has something its good at, but overall, the mossie is very good now.
Need to fly it more, but its my favorite.
I've been flying online for almost 9 years now. I never thought I would hear myself say I like ANY plane thats big & blue. But the fact is for CV ops I like the F6f. It has a good load, makes it off the cv easily, gets me to the target, drop ord, then hunt. Adds up to fun no matter how you slice it.
Its not sleek, small & sexy. Actually its a bit like my wife, plump, short & squaty.
But what a work horse, and can that thing COOK! Dependable as the sunrise, predictable in its faults, (Lord I hope she doessn't read this)
LOL
Anyway, Ya'll get the drift. :)
When she turns her motor over, in a way it is kinda . . . "well inviting at least. sort of "come HERE you sailer, lets go GET em.!
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La7 because it is phun.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
I've been flying online for almost 9 years now. I never thought I would hear myself say I like ANY plane thats big & blue. But the fact is for CV ops I like the F6f. It has a good load, makes it off the cv easily, gets me to the target, drop ord, then hunt. Adds up to fun no matter how you slice it.
Its not sleek, small & sexy. Actually its a bit like my wife, plump, short & squaty.
But what a work horse, and can that thing COOK! Dependable as the sunrise, predictable in its faults, (Lord I hope she doessn't read this)
LOL
Anyway, Ya'll get the drift. :)
When she turns her motor over, in a way it is kinda . . . "well inviting at least. sort of "come HERE you sailer, lets go GET em.!
I knew you were a man of considerable taste Ghosth.
the two most versatile planes in the list would have to be the 38 and f6-f. Both can do everything you want of them pretty well , (E-fight,TnB,BnZzzz,ground attack) etc
but with the cat you get the added option and variety of CV battles , very handy.
All that and it's big and blue. :)
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spitfire mkV - because i cannot think of a more sexy looking beast. It is great for fighting any plane and forces non-cowardice as you cant run form anything really. I love fighting 3 guys at once from a disadvantage and occasionaly winning. i love it because im brittish. i love it for its hispanios. i love it because people call me a dweeb........and then i kill them. I do not fly it because i know nothing of ACM, SA, etc, i fly it because i love it, i could still do just as wel in one of the BnZ so called 'real planes', i just chose not to. a one on one with anything other than a spit is in my favour, so i will go looking for those fights that i probably shouldnt be able to win, and then do my best to fight against the odds.
D/C hog - because it looks like the most incredible killing machine to come out of USA in WW2. its sleek yet chunky. fast yet manouverable. strong yet deadly. it carries loads of bombs and rockets and if that wasnt enough, it has around 3000 rounds of .50 (D) or 950 rounds of 20mm (C)
the corsair is amazing.
P-47 any model - because its a pure monster. period
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F4U1D
Once in a while for chits and giggles the P40E (underrated imho, and has a nice gun package to boot).
X2LEE if you like the Henway, you should try the Hammerfor! It's DA Shiznick!
RTR
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109F4-it is teh awesome!
109G2-Moore of it is teh awesome.
109G6-More of teh awesome
190A5/A8=Awesome!
Me262-Teh hell did you expect?
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F4U C/D model - because it is basically outclassed by almost every other mid to late war fighter in the game, you can't run from nothing, you can't outturn anything, you lucky if you get a kill with it, the best quality is every time you take a hit from any direction it is almost a given oil hit, but it carries enough oil to get you 5 sectors or so back to base.
Every thing outruns it, outclimbs it, out turns it, every other plane is so uberly to it in flight characteristics that it is unbelievable..........and it's Big and Blue!:D
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Oh yeah I also fly the Henway a little bit.
Lee sits at the pc and waits for someone to bite.
And waits .....
........... and waits ................
:D
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i fly whatever suits me at the time
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Originally posted by RTR
X2LEE if you like the Henway, you should try the Hammerfor! It's DA Shiznick!
RTR
Neither hold a candle to the Laycost.
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190a8 is my main ride.
If you can lead targets and make deflection shots, it is ok. Takes a while to adjust to it, as its fairly slippery. With good piloting, you can generally get at least one chance to snap a shot off in a fight, and with the big guns, that's all it takes.
The guns permit it to take on bombers and strafe gvs or towns etc.
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TC be careful.
If everyone figures out what a no good useless ride the F4U is, everyone will want to fly it. And that would mean that I would have to fly lala's, spits and N1K's.
That would be bad.
RTR
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La-5FN: because it's smooth as silk in a dogfight. More finesse and less brute power than the La-7. Spits and Zekes will outturn it (and 110's have surprised me), but it can pretty much just walk away from them if it gets hairy. It goes through fuel in a blink in AH2.
Ki-61: slow but steady; packs a nice punch with the cowl mounted 20mm's.
Bf109G-10: with gondolas, because I've been running into a lot more B-17 formations lately. Making hi/low slash attacks in the G-10 is a blast.
My old favorites are the Fw190A-5 & D-9, especially if I'm heading to a sector with a big red bar in it. And the F4U's for longer fighter sweeps...and because they're beautiful.
:)
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P-51 Cause it accelates better than P-38
P-51 Cause it climbs better than P-38
P-51 Cause it sounds better than P-38
P-51 Cause it smells better than P-38
P-51 Cause of the sex appeal
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190 D-9 I love the vertical reverse (bellyshots when they're stalling are priceless :lol)
190 D-9 for the guns
190 D-9 because it's ebil
109 G-10 brutal climb rate
109 G-10 brutal firepower
109 & 190 because they are both challenging planes that require skill to survive in especially D-9 when low & slow.
Other than that, I really like the P-51 (pony is sick for E retention), P-38 and would like to get to know the P-47 better just haven't flown it much. Unfortunatly I'm no big fan of the .50 (at least not ingame :D).
The spits, La-5/7, Yaks, N1Kis etc are all too easy to fly imo anyone can fly them and get kills with little practice. The best kills are when you outsmart your opponent by the use of tactics or fake intentions.
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P51 - I love the skins =)
190A5 - I love the roll rate - but hate it when someone clips off my ailerons.
109G10 - Climbs like an SOB
P51 - Cus its a versatile plane.
P51 - Cus its just damn cool to fly.
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1. P38 because of ord load out
2. P38 because of ammo loadout
3. P38 because it can out turn what it cant out run
4. P38 because it can out run what it cant out turn
5. P38 because it is by far the sexiest plane out there
6. P38 because only the L33T pilots fly them well(hehe, kidding, its EZ mode plane)
~S~
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hum all the p38 dweebs seem to think the p38 is 'Phun', but i dont think so in fact i think it is 'Ghey':D
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1) Mosquito Mk VI, because it can do any job, sorta, and isn't a P-38.
2) Fw190A-5, because it is such a fun little brawler.
3) Ki-67, because it does nearly as much damage to factories as a Lanc and doesn't take all year to get there. It has guns.
4) Spitfire Mk Vb because it is great for mixing it up.
5) Spitfire Mk XIV because I am a glutton for punishment.
6) M8 Greyhound, because killing Panzers with it is challenging.
7) Il-2, because it is a cockroach killer.
The Ki-84-I-Ko is likely to displace one of my top five when it gets added.
I am surprised by how many people only fly one aircraft.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
hum all the p38 dweebs seem to think the p38 is 'Phun', but i dont think so in fact i think it is 'Ghey':D
That's because you don't have the necessary abilities to fly the P-38L.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by X2Lee
5. p38 akak likes it
Thats a reason not to fly it ;)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
That's because you don't have the necessary abilities to fly the P-38L.
ack-ack
i dont have the comp to fly the pee38. :| my fps dies when i even get remotly close to one.
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
i dont have the comp to fly the pee38. :| my fps dies when i even get remotly close to one.
Really?? Where on the map can AKAK and I find you flying? j/k
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
hum all the p38 dweebs seem to think the p38 is 'Phun', but i dont think so in fact i think it is 'Ghey':D
Well i seem to think the same about the P-38 Akak..
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Originally posted by Karnak
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3) Ki-67, because it does nearly as much damage to factories as a Lanc and doesn't take all year to get there. It has guns.
The Ki-84-I-Ko is likely to displace one of my top five when it gets added.t.
Realy
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Tempest V : yes i like tempest so i can kill La7s and N1ks
P-47D-11 : its the plane i have most fun in (and it gets perkies quick)
B17G: climbs fairly quick and good armorment
P-40E&B: they both turn great and do great in dives dispite there infamous reputation for being a horrible plane
F4U4: great climber...and easy plane to fly
262: DUH! :lol
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Yak-9U for sheer joy of flight and fight
P-47D-11 for slugfests
La-7 for general cruisin' and bruisin'
P-38 for serious jabo and high alt fighting on same mission
F-4U1D for all-around blue challenge
Actually, Artik, gotta agree with you on 109 G-10 -- people don't die in that plane unless they want to. It owns high alt. Can b&z all day and just climb away from pursuers. Most dominant fights I've seen have been 109s of all persuasions playing their alt card.
Still remember way back in Air Warrior when it dawned on me 109 is one of the few planes that can survive attacking superior numbers simply by climbing away from them.
Unless ... you're fighting other 109s.
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Originally posted by simshell
Realy
Um, Ki-67 and Ki-84 fill completely different roles. The Ki-67 is probably the least likely to be displaced.
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F6f: Because I love seeing the ???s when I outturn a Spit IX at 250 mph :D
F6F: Lots of ammo, and I need that.
F6F: Tough, and very good maneuverability.
F6F: Hard to stall, forgiving.
F6F: Its not an LA7 :D
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continuation from above.
F6F: And its blue.:D
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Fighters
109f4 (with gonds)
109g2 (with or without gonds)
190a5
190a8 (cannons baby!)
262 ;)
Attackers (gvs)
Hurri IIC (duh! perkies)
P38 (dieeeeeee cv dieeeeeee)
p47d25 or d40 (same as above)
A20 nothing like "base suppressing" in this baby and getting punis thinking they can run me out of ammo ;) :lol
I just noticed im close to beeing a luftweenie :(
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Originally posted by Steve
Let's see. Yak out turns pony, out climbs pony, is as fast as pony on the deck(no wep), out accelerates pony, dives as well.
1v1 the advantage is Yak all the way.
If you can shoot. which 95% of the MA population can't
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spit 9 because it's British and loads of fun
spit 5 turns great
hurri 1 takes the Pi$$ outta a6ms
yak u it can catch runners
p38 (ords)
f6f (ords)
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# 1 A20 (light of course) it has decent speed exalent turning ability and 6 .50.s in the nose.
#2 p38 great for roach killin
#3ar234 great for noe milk runs and roach killin
#4 Fm2 just plain fun to fly
#5 Chog
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190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
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Spit 9 - fun fun fun and more fun but too slow for AH2 (ill miss you spit9)
D9 - you don't die unless you want to
A8 - guns guns guns - just point and they explode
A5 - because I know it can be flown well - Lizard amazed me in it, but I can't fly it well so its fun trying to fly it well.
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One more I forget........
La7 when need to kill couple of vulchers.......
Most of them do not react fast when I allready in the air and shooting then down........
Funniest thing to roll from field CAPped by two - three spiftires kill couple of them and RTB...........
It is best fighter for low altitudes fights and for scramble misstions because of its great acceleation/climb/speed.....
I get very fast in position for BnZ and then...... VULECHERS DIE ;)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
5. P-38 - It can carry a big ordnance payload
4. P-38 - Excellent in the vertical
3. P-38 - Can out turn Spitfires
2. P-38 - Can out turn N1K2
1. P-38 - It's an EZ-Mode plane
that's my top 5 list.
ack-ack
Ummm,..............You know,.... you really need to expand your mind, ....and embrace a very interesting concept about the realities of life as we know it today,...Now, I know you've had some bad memories of wars long gone by, and I know the battle scars can last a long time. But try to understand,......listen to me,...trust me,... they killed all the demons under the seats of your other model planes,.... really,.... all gone,...... pooof!!,...bu-bye,.... it's safe,.. really, don't be scared,....... look I'll sit in one of your planes,... seee... all is good,...... nice plane,... niiiiiiiiice plane,... listen,..... she's calling your name,... can you hear it?...... lean in close,...... really lean in close,...... listen hard,...... you listening?..... ok shhhhhhhhhh,.. now listen really hard,.. you'll hear it...........
THERE **ARE** OTHER PLANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-)
Anim
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P-51s, P-47s, F4s, 190 A5, 190 A8,....
Why?
cause they shore dew have a pertty mouth.
Anim
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Originally posted by Glasses
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
ewe really shouldn't bogart.
Anim
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No matter what plane I try it seems I always go back to the Bf109G-10. Don't ask me why because it can't roll worth a *****, compresses if you don't pay attention, overshoot targets quite often, views suck, does not handle well on the ground and has only 106 gallons internal fuel. Sometimes I wonder if the speed, climbing rate and 30mm cannon are worth it.
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Hmmm, I see heros in crappy planes on BB while in MA they all fly La7's ,P-51D's and some other uber planes. :confused:
If it does not have any 20mm canons or more then 4x50cals it stays at hangar. Thats the situation in the MA at the moment.
HT could delete 50% of planeset and it still would NOT have any impact on the game, nobody flies them for simple reason ...you kill slowly, die quickly, getting killed = no fun.:rolleyes: Not enough reward for flying them imo.
I really have tried to learn and get some kills in P40B, there is no way to even fly against someone in another crappy plane without their (or mine) country mates interfering with the fight in their ugly-uber-rides.
What did I fly ? .... P40B, P40E, A6M2, F4U-1.
What do I fly ? .....started to fly 110G-2 and I HO every red-iconed-punk that comes in my way.
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Originally posted by Xargos
No matter what plane I try it seems I always go back to the Bf109G-10. Don't ask me why because it can't roll worth a *****, compresses if you don't pay attention, overshoot targets quite often, views suck, does not handle well on the ground and has only 106 gallons internal fuel. Sometimes I wonder if the speed, climbing rate and 30mm cannon are worth it.
Ohhhhhh.......
Same here.
109G-10 range is short - roll ratio anemic, compression - you allready allmost compressed at level flight..... views...... nothing to talk.... gandolas makes it even havyer (without that it is hard to get kills IMHO).........
But incredibly powered climb ratio and speed makes all the difference......
What I do not fly (from populat mashines)
- P-51D - allmost every normal plane outclimbs it..... it is very hard to develop E andvantage in same starting conditions.... takes long time to get in required position
- Spitfire Mk IX, N1K - allmost everything outruns it............. I can't escape, I can't catch.....
- La-7 it is great low altitude figher....... Rocket Climb up to..... 8K........ It is not enough manuverable to turnfight..... and it has very poor high altitude perfomance to do true BnZ.....
- P-47D/P-38 - overall average planes - nothing exeptional - nor Speed neither climb or firepower......
- 190A-5.A-8. F - very low climb raito - in 190D speed compencates it ;)
So.....
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Typhoon-Fast. Can force LGay7s to overshoot easily for snapshot kills. Four Hispanos. Great 18k or less buff killer. Great nose-low deflection view.
P47D-40-Premier attack plane. Great at altitude. Great flaps. 8 X 50cals. Decent 18k+ buff killer. Zoom climbs great due to its mass. Good nose-low deflection view.
F6F-5- Can out-turn anything it can't out-run except a superlative P38 driver of which there are only a very few. Great flaps. Zoom climbs great due to its mass. Great nose-low deflection view.
P51D-Can out-turn anything it can't out-run. Great flaps. Great nose-low deflection view.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
P51D-Can out-turn anything it can't out-run. Great flaps. Great nose-low deflection view.
Zazen
I guess you didn't know about the Tempest?
My #1 plane is F4U.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
I guess you didn't know about the Tempest?
My #1 plane is F4U.
Firstly, I didn't include any perk plane in my list of favorites. The Tempest happens to be the only perk plane I will fly. Secondly, there is not a snowball's chance in hell ANY Tempest flown by ANYONE is going to out-turn a competently flown P51D at ANY altitude. The manuevering flaps on the P51D are excellent.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Murdr
Thats a reason not to fly it ;)
AKAK is muh friend
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Firstly, I didn't include any perk plane in my list of favorites. The Tempest happens to be the only perk plane I will fly. Secondly, there is not a snowball's chance in hell ANY Tempest flown by ANYONE is going to out-turn a competantly flown P51D at ANY altitude. The manuevering flaps on the P51D are excellent.
Zazen
If u want I can show you that a Tempest can indeed out-turn a P51..A 109g-10 can out turn a p51 too.
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Well, if one were to look at my typical tour stats, they would see that I have no favorites. I fly planes based upon the need at the time and/or whatever suits my mood.
I'll fly any of the 109s, any of the F4Us, any of the 190s, both Mustangs, Jugs, Lavochkins, Hellcat, Wildcat, P-38, Typhoon, even Spits and Nikis and Hurricanes. Over the course of two tours, I'll fly just about every fighter in the plane set, including the jets. I like variety because I get bored quickly.
There are certain aircraft that stand out as being more entertaining than the others. I enjoy the P-51B, F6F, 109G-2, La-5 and 190A-5. They are all great fun and fit in nicely between the super-fast and super-agile fighters that most people tend to gravitate to. If HTC modeled the P-51C with the -7 Packard Merlin (same as the P-51D), it would be the most capable non-perked fighter in the plane-set. As it is, I love to battle perk planes with the B model (F4U-4s and Tempests are no major challenge if co-alt and especially so if below me). AH2's revised P-51 flight model has made them even more capable IMO. Although some guys don't think so. I suspect that this is because they tended to rely on the AH1 ballistics model too much and found that it's a lot harder to get kills at 800 yards or by using snap shots in AH2. But, a good stick will eventually work it out.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by SirLoin
If u want I can show you that a Tempest can indeed out-turn a P51..A 109g-10 can out turn a p51 too.
Sir Loin's Total AH II experience in P51D---7 Kills/5 Deaths.
Zazen's Total AH II experience in P51D---104 Kills/5 Deaths.
Ummm, you obviously have no clue wtf you're talking about, have a nice day! ;)
Zazen
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Originally posted by SirLoin
If u want I can show you that a Tempest can indeed out-turn a P51..A 109g-10 can out turn a p51 too.
Not in AH2... Once the Mustang gets flaps out, both the Tempest and G-10 are toast if they continue to turn. In AH1, the G-10 could out-turn a P-51D (not the P-51B tho). The new flight model changed that. I fly 109s a lot too. the G-10 is a great E fighter, but unimpressive as a turn fighter. If you want to turn fight, take the 109F-4 or G-2.
The La-7 can out-turn both the 109G-10 and Tempest. Get a notch or two of flaps out on a Mustang, and it will out-turn the La-7 (assuming 50% fuel or less, and I NEVER take more than 50%). And remember, the P-51B is considerably more agile than the D model. I'm sure you realize that you can begin deploying flaps at 400 mph. With the other three, you can't get the flaps down until well below 200 mph, by which time they are long dead unless they break off from such foolishness and run.
Try this: Take a Tempest and either Mustang. Set up in a right or left lufberry and see who gets around on the 6 of the other. You will find that both the Tempest and G-10 have to break out of the lufberry or they die. The AH2 Mustangs will get the flaps out, cut across the circle and vaporize them.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Sir Loin's Total AH II experience in P51D---7 Kills/5 Deaths.
Zazen's Total AH II experience in P51D---104 Kills/5 Deaths.
Ummm, you obviously have no clue wtf you're talking about, have a nice day! ;)
Zazen
So I guess you don't want me to show you..?
Have a nice day as well.
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P-47D/P-38 - overall average planes - nothing exeptional - nor Speed neither climb or firepower......
Your kidding ... right ?
P-47 = 8 x .50 cals ... not exceptional firepower ?
P-38 = Center-nose guns with .50 cals and 20mm ... not exceptional firepower ?
Speed in both these planes are exceptional in the dive and the zoom. P-38 is one of the best planes in the vertical climb.
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Originally posted by Widewing
Not in AH2... Once the Mustang gets flaps out, both the Tempest and G-10 are toast if they continue to turn. In AH1, the G-10 could out-turn a P-51D (not the P-51B tho). The new flight model changed that. I fly 109s a lot too. the G-10 is a great E fighter, but unimpressive as a turn fighter. If you want to turn fight, take the 109F-4 or G-2.
The La-7 can out-turn both the 109G-10 and Tempest. Get a notch or two of flaps out on a Mustang, and it will out-turn the La-7 (assuming 50% fuel or less, and I NEVER take more than 50%). And remember, the P-51B is considerably more agile than the D model. I'm sure you realize that you can begin deploying flaps at 400 mph. With the other three, you can't get the flaps down until well below 200 mph, by which time they are long dead unless they break off from such foolishness and run.
Try this: Take a Tempest and either Mustang. Set up in a right or left lufberry and see who gets around on the 6 of the other. You will find that both the Tempest and G-10 have to break out of the lufberry or they die. The AH2 Mustangs will get the flaps out, cut across the circle and vaporize them.
My regards,
Widewing
Exactly correct Widewing, those excellent manuevering flaps are the difference in AH II.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Glasses
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
190 A-8 cus its got 780 rounds of 20mm
I'm sure one day you will complete your gunnery training :D
Typhoon Fw 190D-9 = needed to kill runstang ,Lala,G10 D9 and Typhoon.
F6F-5 = needed to turn plus from time to time there is fight only from a CV
Fw 190A-8 = firepower baby ! Make all plane look fragile
Fw 190A-5 A6M5b = turnfiter ...
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The only difference between AH1 and AH2 is the gunnery and stall modelling(and graphics)...I have not seen any flight model diferences on my end.
Come on Zazen..Prove me wrong?..:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SirLoin
The only difference between AH1 and AH2 is the gunnery and stall modelling(and graphics)...I have not seen any flight model diferences on my end.
Come on Zazen..Prove me wrong?..:rolleyes:
I'm not sure why I am even wasting my time with you but, if you had read the readme's for AH II you would know the whole way forces are modelled in AH was redone in AH II. Specifically, how those forces interact with the various control surfaces of the planes. Not only that, but several planes had their flight models tweaked, including the P51D, and more are going to be tweaked in the very near future. If you had any insight whatsover into the dynamics of flight you would know full well the P51D of AH II is different in many subtle ways to the P51D of AH I.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Sir Loin's Total AH II experience in P51D---7 Kills/5 Deaths.
Zazen's Total AH II experience in P51D---104 Kills/5 Deaths.
Ummm, you obviously have no clue wtf you're talking about, have a nice day! ;)
Zazen
I'd put $20 on SirLoin, you wouldn't have a chance against him in a 1v1 duel Zazen.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by straffo
I'm sure one day you will complete your gunnery training :D
No way with all 190s having the built-in random bullet trajectory generator device :(
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I'd put $20 on SirLoin, you wouldn't have a chance against him in a 1v1 duel Zazen.
ack-ack
Luckily for you and your $20 I have a very strict, "No duelling lamer dweebs for noodle measuring purposes", policy. :aok
Zazen
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P38 because i suck in spitfires :)
never flown the nik
flew the la7 only 1 X
and i'm proud on it
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1. Typhoon, will out turn other bnz planes.
2. Typhoon, will blow up spits, la7, niki's in a heart beat with 20's
3. Tempest, only when some dweeb gets me low and slow, I'll come back in a tempest and kill 'em.
4. Hurri C, for base defense.
5. A20, great for quick way of hitting factories nearby.
P.S., typhy vs P38, typhy will usually win that fight.
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Depends what Im doing..
I'll fly just about anything but the spit which I outright refuse to fly even when my squad calls for it exept under very heavy protest.
I've flown a bunch of planes as my main rides or at least on a regular basis but I often prefer some of the tougher ones to fly as you only learn so much from the easier ones like the spit, La7, and Niki
My main rides have been
FM2,
NIKI
Tiffy,
Pony B model
FW A-5
FW A-8
FW D-9
And lately been dabbling with some of the 109s tougher planes to fly then some give credit for.
But I hope to work my way through all the planes eventually. cept the spit.
Oh and why do I fly em.
I think that knowing as many planes as possable and their capabilities goes a long way in learning how to kill em.
Plus its always a challange almost like playing a new game.
Funny thing I've noticed is when I make the occasional switch back to an easy plane like Say a Niki I almost feel like Im cheating. flying those planes is THAT much easier
Its almost like childsplay.
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p38 all the way :aok
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
P38 because i suck in spitfires :)
never flown the nik
flew the la7 only 1 X
and i'm proud on it
How the hell does ANYONE suck in spitfires?
My 7 year old daughter (then 6) was able to get 2 kills in a spit once using only stick input and the only experience in AH was watching me.
LOL true story
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Originally posted by Zazen13
Luckily for you and your $20 I have a very strict, "No duelling lamer dweebs for noodle measuring purposes", policy. :aok
I think this duel was to prove a point tween the 51 and the Temp, actually. From your stats, you seem the perfect one to champion the 51. Awww ... c'mon!
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TYPHOON
#1. Insanely powerful guns that seem to get hits on anything that passes remotely close to the gunsight.
#2. very quick into a turn producing beautiful Snapshots.
#3. Turns much better than given credit for.
#4. Takes a Lickin and Keeps on Tickin.
#5. Chop throttle and force Overshoots with the greatest of ease.
#6. maneuverable even as slow as 80mph
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Zazen, Widewing. your forgetting gondies and a few other things. The 109 may not be able to get a turn fight going, but it has some nice led abilities in the First few seconds of the turn. Urchin could easily saw off a descent 51's wing in htat short time. 109 also has better gun package.
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If u want I can show you that a Tempest can indeed out-turn a P51..A 109g-10 can out turn a p51 too.
Sirloin,
I'd like to see that. I'm not saying it can't be done, nor am I thumping my chest. I'm actually curious how these planes would fare against each other in AHII.
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109 also has better gun package
huh?
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
Zazen, Widewing. your forgetting gondies and a few other things. The 109 may not be able to get a turn fight going, but it has some nice led abilities in the First few seconds of the turn. Urchin could easily saw off a descent 51's wing in htat short time. 109 also has better gun package.
I fly 109s often. I like them, I like their ability to turn around an initial disadvantage to a kill very quickly. However, I have had some pretty tough brawls with well flown Mustangs, and even the 109G-2 was hard pressed. You simply cannot match a P-51 in a flaps out stall fight with a G-10.
That said, you certainly can use angles and the vertical plane to defeat the Mustang. But simply trying to out-turn it in a low speed fight is ill advised.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Fauxbra
TYPHOON
#1. Insanely powerful guns that seem to get hits on anything that passes remotely close to the gunsight.
#2. very quick into a turn producing beautiful Snapshots.
#3. Turns much better than given credit for.
#4. Takes a Lickin and Keeps on Tickin.
#5. Chop throttle and force Overshoots with the greatest of ease.
#6. maneuverable even as slow as 80mph
come off it mate! i only ever seen you flying an la-7
be proud of your chosen plane and ignore the filthy heathans and 'dweeb insult hurlers'
batfink
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Originally posted by Steve
huh?
you heard me right. 2 20mm's and a 30mm is sexy:D
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D3A! Watch your backs!
Need I say more?
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Most important advantege of G10 is its climb/speed acceleration - thats make all the difference.......
You don't need to turnfight P-51D - just start climb and you'll see how pony goes down...... and then sweet BnZ.....
Gun package:
it is very flexible:
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- 1x20mm gun + 2x13mm - the firepower is low however gives it better turn ability/speed climb - if you need to fight planes like pony that has very good characteristics and not best turn ratio - so you don't need to kill it in single hit you would use this package....
- 3x20mm - IMHO best option - gives less manuverability - but..... who goes to turn with it..... The guns has great ballistics and allows you to make hard deflection shoots from 300-400 yards at very high angles - and kill them in single spray.... it is great option to kill very manuvrable N1Ks Spits and others but also great for most of other things like buffs hunting.
- 1x30mm - for all who likes to get close and kill in single hit...... I personlay don't like it...... not mine gunnery style - I prefare to hit targets from 300-400 yards..... but is very nice to hunt buffs (I personal can't hit nothing with 30mm :( )
- 2x20mm+1x30mm - IMHO it is good only for buff hunting - maybe others will say I'm wrong..... the main problem is dramaticly different ballistics of two these guns..... you can't aim both on same target...... I usually stay away of this option - however it might be good for buff hunting....
so IMHO 109 has best options for firepower (yes maybe Tempest/Typhoon/F4U-1C are better with 4x20mm hispano).... but 3x20mm with allmost same ballistics are good enough...
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i bet a Spit14 can outturn that P51 for sure at low speed
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looking into my stats ill put these in to order with the most kills down to the lowest amount of kills
spit 9, for the defence baby
p51d for offence and defence, only three kills short of the spit 9
spit 14, love that fricken thing
seafire
f6f-5
are we counting just planes, or can i count gv's too?
because i love the tiger:D
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The C205 is the bastard child of 109G2 and 190A5, I always come back to it.
I just stay away from the la7, spit9, P51D and niki, because it's less fun landing 12 kills in those than 3 kills in a C202 or Hurri1.
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I like to fly the following:
1. P38-its got a lot ammo, its somewhat fast, can turn with most things if used right, and its got quite a bit or ordance it can carry.
2. Spit 1- cause its different, no one flies it, and its fun to fly. Trying to kill someone with .303s only is a blast. To me its also good in furballs.
3. The zeke for carrier base plane cause its the only plane i seem to like on carriers besides the c-hog and fm2.
4. The 262, what else am i going to blow perks on. Its also really really fast. :lol
5. The a20 cause its the only bomber i seem to fly because i can fly it as a fighter. Its got ordance, lots of guns. I like it cause to me its like a 38 so I tend to fly it like a 38.
Canaris
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Originally posted by jodgi
The C205 is the bastard child of 109G2 and 190A5, I always come back to it.
I just stay away from the la7, spit9, P51D and niki, because it's less fun landing 12 kills in those than 3 kills in a C202 or Hurri1.
i like landing 47 kills in tiger:D
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Spit V:aok
I like it.
I like it alot.
I like it best.
It's my favorite WW2 Plane.
Nuff Said:lol
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Originally posted by mechanic
come off it mate! i only ever seen you flying an la-7
be proud of your chosen plane and ignore the filthy heathans and 'dweeb insult hurlers'
batfink
Just for the record....last tour i had 394 kills in the Typhoon vs 117 deaths which was better than my K/D ratio in the LALA.....Batfink... open mouth , insert foot!!!
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As the Monty Python would say: Now for something completely different...
Favorite MA fighter? Depeding on the situation, the BF110C4/G2
G2 gets used in ground attack, CAS, vulching, and interception (when I have damn near an hour's prior notice..)
C4 is my main furballer. Less power, but less weight. Seems to turn a little better for me.
Bomber-wise it's the JU-88. Payload weight is in the same class as a B-17. Only, unlike 17's, this thing is actually built to be both a level-bomber and a dive bomber...and it has a pair of barn-doors for dive flaps (use 'em one day and see what I mean)
GV's? M8 Greyhound. Reason? ZOOOOOM!
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110c because its a man's plane.