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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SOB on August 01, 2004, 10:42:45 AM
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Wow, this is simply pathetic. I would think we have more pressing immigration matters to deal with than kicking a widow out of the country, not to mention better things to spend our money on.
http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=84429
Oregon widow to be deported, judge rules
Her U.S. husband died less than 2 years after their marriage
The Associated Press
August 1, 2004
The widow of a U.S. citizen must return to her native South Africa because her husband died after less than two years of marriage, a federal judge has ruled.
U.S. District Judge Owen Panner ruled that immigration officials had reasonably interpreted that the two-year rule was firm, and that Carla Arabella Freeman must leave the country because she and her husband, Robert, hadn’t been married long enough before he died in a 2002 car accident.
Panner ordered immigration officials to wait 30 days before deporting Freeman, allowing the woman’s lawyer time to decide whether to take the case to the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
The attorney, Brent Renison of Portland, criticized the decision, saying it “is not what a civilized country does.”
Although the two-year rule doesn’t come into play often, Renison said that immigration attorneys have learned of at least 25 similar cases.
Immigration officials in Georgia, for example, are seeking to deport Olga Bota, a
38-year-old Romanian citizen whose American husband died from stomach cancer in 2000.
Bota has a 4-year-old daughter who is a U.S. citizen, said Cherie Elizabeth Patronis, the Atlanta attorney representing her.
Rubi Dobrenz, who lives in Mount Vernon, Wash., faces deportation to her native Peru because her husband committed suicide shortly after their marriage in early 2000, said Bart Stroupe, her Seattle attorney.
Renison said he is not aware of any federal court that has sided against immigration officials in such cases. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., co-sponsored a bill passed by Congress in 2000 that allowed Suchada Kwong, a native of Thailand, to become a permanent U.S. resident.
Kwong faced deportation after her American husband was killed in a car wreck in Clark County, Wash., in 1996.
Renison said Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, has introduced a bill to replace the two-year-rule with a standard that says the marriage must be entered in good faith.
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About ten years ago or so, there was a Navy test pilot out here that died in an F-86. He was married to an Australian woman for just a year or so. She had to fight to stay in this country.
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Think that's bad, they are trying to deport my wife, and I'm still alive. Had to go to court couple weeks ago, next date is in November, all because they want proof I make enough money after I gave them W-2's for 5 years. I was advised to get a lawyer to waste more money. I wonder if I ignore them if they will send in the ATF to burn my house down.
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Forcing a legal immigrant out under these conditions while ignoring millions of illegals is just plain wacko. I'm betting she wins this.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Think that's bad, they are trying to deport my wife, and I'm still alive. Had to go to court couple weeks ago, next date is in November, all because they want proof I make enough money after I gave them W-2's for 5 years.
Seriously? Make enough money to do what? Be married?
What a total crock.
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Fact.
And to be fair, it's so that if you get married, you can prove your not going to be homeless or unable to support yourself and your spouse, which is a good idea I guess, but whoopee.
Sitting in a court room with $100 a day lawyers and no one that can speak English isn't as fun as going to the dentist, and a complete waste of time. Maybe Kerry will tax all those rich bastards and pay for my public defender.
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There is such a thing as a $100 a day lawyer?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
There is such a thing as a $100 a day lawyer?
Like you I'm astonished ... it's not improbable Creamo didn't read very closely his contract with his lawyer :)
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Stupid bass ackwards enforcement. We have millions of illegals but they spend time and money with these few poor souls.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Think that's bad, they are trying to deport my wife, and I'm still alive. Had to go to court couple weeks ago, next date is in November, all because they want proof I make enough money after I gave them W-2's for 5 years. I was advised to get a lawyer to waste more money. I wonder if I ignore them if they will send in the ATF to burn my house down.
seems kind of fediddleed up to me. hammer the people trying to work within system as expected while not go after streetcorners full of guys you know just infiltrated. if you are citizen write your congressman and call congressman office.
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It's USA even the law is commercial
:p
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Originally posted by Creamo
Think that's bad, they are trying to deport my wife, and I'm still alive. Had to go to court couple weeks ago, next date is in November, all because they want proof I make enough money after I gave them W-2's for 5 years. I was advised to get a lawyer to waste more money. I wonder if I ignore them if they will send in the ATF to burn my house down.
can I have your wife? I can afford a couple of them.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Forcing a legal immigrant out under these conditions while ignoring millions of illegals is just plain wacko. I'm betting she wins this.
Originally posted by MT
Stupid bass ackwards enforcement. We have millions of illegals but they spend time and money with these few poor souls.
low hanging fruit. A proof that they are "doing Something"
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"Them?"
(http://www.melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/stills/F/fatalbert1.jpg)
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No, you did not get it.
them... the wifes. I could "borrow" yours and keep her for you... until you get back on your feet.
Nah... never mind this was a stupid joke. Forget it.
It is plain ridiculous to ask for the "proff" you can "afford" the wife. > I was just trying to highlight the absurdity, but it did not work the way I planned it.
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Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, has introduced a bill to replace the two-year-rule with a standard that says the marriage must be entered in good faith.
Stupid Texas Democrats and their common sense. :aok
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Midnight is totally right, I hope everyone male or female that is having this problem can stay.
Bureaucrats just have no common sense,the law was to stop people from paying someone to marry them to become citizens and then divorcing and go there own way.
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Forcing a legal immigrant out under these conditions while ignoring millions of illegals is just plain wacko. I'm betting she wins this.
Seems obvious to me they hafta to after the ones the KNOW about, cause they can't find the illegals.
Homeland Security will have nice statistics to show on how they are making the country safer.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Stupid bass ackwards enforcement. We have millions of illegals but they spend time and money with these few poor souls.
The decades of liberal pandering to the hispanic vote has created this situation. They learned threy could get anything and now its so bad now that both parties are giving them just about any immigration right they think will please them.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
The decades of liberal pandering to the hispanic vote has created this situation. They learned threy could get anything and now its so bad now that both parties are giving them just about any immigration right they think will please them.
Liberal pandering? You don't think any Republicans ever employed any of those illegals?:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by rpm371
Liberal pandering? You don't think any Republicans ever employed any of those illegals?:rolleyes:
Tell me whats the last time the democratic party ran an illegal immigration campaiogn ad with the words "They keep coming" over a video of Mexicans runningover the US border?
Althought both parties seem to ave embraced the illegals now it's clearly the democrats who got us where we are politically by pandering to the mexican vote and equating pushes for immigration enforcement and reform with racism.
And now you guys whine about it too... Funny.
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No Grun, you have it all wrong. I am sure that it's the far right in SF that are pushing this proposal...
S.F. Looks at Granting Noncitizens a School Vote
By Jack Chang CONTRA COSTA TIMES
Possibly the next hot topic in the state's debate over immigration is shaping up in San Francisco, where supervisors may ask voters in November to decide whether to let noncitizens vote in school board elections.
Most controversially, voter approval of the proposal would allow illegal immigrants to vote and help determine how taxpayer dollars are spent on public schools.
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Originally posted by milnko
Seems obvious to me they hafta to after the ones the KNOW about, cause they can't find the illegals.
Homeland Security will have nice statistics to show on how they are making the country safer.
All they need to do is come ask me and I will show them where I pick up the "day laborers" that we hire sometimes at work to do the lawn stuff around the office. But then I will be taking away jobs from the illegals who want to work and giving them to lazy legal americans who want union benefits to cut grass once a week.
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reschke are you saying you knowingly hire illegals?
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waste of good government money that should be used for something else.
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Yep all "la migra" has to do down here is drive around to all the local Home Depot parking lots every morning and they will find all the illegals they want.
Personally, as a legal immigranmt to the USA, I'm conflicted between my disdain for their criminal tresspassing of the USA and my respect for their attempt to get a better life and their willingness to work hard and I imagine honestly in most cases to attain that goal...