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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on August 03, 2004, 08:28:18 AM
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Well I think this fellow is over analyzing a simple problem.
Soccer sucks :)
Why America hates football (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,1270849,00.html)
To be honest, I am starting to like it a bit more than I used to.
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I love football.
But, I preferr the NCAA myself. The NFL has become all about the money and less about the game anymore.
I just wish the NCAA would have a mini playoff and a superbowl type game to determin the national champs.
watch out for my huskers.....its a rebuilding year but I'm expecting great things ;)
:aok
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soccer is great but i think much more enjoyable to watch if you have played it in organized and competitive manner. i love watching soccer.
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The writer missed the real reason that football (soccer) is not popular in the US....TV.
Soccer does not convieniently stop for commercial breaks the way that the other US sports do. This makes it VERY unpopular with the networks and advertisers alike. So you won't see it on TV with the same regularity as the other big 3 US sports.
The sport also doesn't stand a chance at developing into a fan favourite. Just look at College football in the US. It earns more revenue for the Big League schools than anything else. Soccer hasn't even got the POTENTIAL to earn the same dollars as football or even basketball...so US schools will not promote it in the same way.
It is sad that such a great game is dismissed by Americans....all because of the mighty TV.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I love football.
But, I preferr the NCAA myself. The NFL has become all about the money and less about the game anymore.
I just wish the NCAA would have a mini playoff and a superbowl type game to determin the national champs.
watch out for my huskers.....its a rebuilding year but I'm expecting great things ;)
:aok
Proud Crimson Tide supporter, myself.:D I've always preferred to watch college football than pro.
edit: Speaking of Huskers, there've sure been some great games over the years between the Tide and the Huskers. I always look forward to those games.:aok
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Interesting theory Curval. I believe that there is more to it than that. Even before television, the NFL flourished in the US while soccer remained a minor amature sport.
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Football is too similar to basketball? is the writer on crack?:confused:
Football and basketball are therefore the team sports that most vividly evoke a common human fantasy: to leave the ground and fly through the air.
I think the answer is yes.
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played soccer for years as a child, but i don't enjoy watching it on TV. It's a sport i would rather be playing than watching.
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Originally posted by narsus
played soccer for years as a child, but i don't enjoy watching it on TV. It's a sport i would rather be playing than watching.
Same.
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Originally posted by Curval
The writer missed the real reason that football (soccer) is not popular in the US....TV.
Originally posted by anonymous soccer is great but i think much more enjoyable to watch if you have played it in organized and competitive manner. i love watching soccer.
I think you both have good points. Most kids nowdays have played soccer, but most of us older types never did. I think older guys are a big part of the TV watching demographic.
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soccer makes baseball players look tough....we like our gladiators...and well soccer is sissy.
Yes I played a lot of soccer growing up, several all star teams in fact.
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Originally posted by Curval
The writer missed the real reason that football (soccer) is not popular in the US....TV.
Soccer does not convieniently stop for commercial breaks...
It is sad that such a great game is dismissed by Americans....all because of the mighty TV.
Knute Rockne and Babe Ruth both died before TV but football and baseball were well established before Knute and the Babe came to prominence.
Boxing is great for TV, a commercial break each round and yet Boxing has lost appeal from it's height of popularity. The Louis - Schmeling fights, Tunney, Dempsey, Marciano, all before TV.
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lol america hate football. Basketball like football lol. Football easy to play:rofl
They do not require elaborate equipment and satisfactory informal games can be staged without the full complement of players
:rofl
this guy knows not of what he speaks.
Football is the sport of kings, Basketball is to different from football to even be put in the class.
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Originally posted by Krusher
Well I think this fellow is over analyzing a simple problem.
Soccer sucks :)
Why America hates football (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,1270849,00.html)
To be honest, I am starting to like it a bit more than I used to.
Krusher, your ignorance precedes yourself.
Fuggin idiot. When your balls drop, come talk to me.
Karaya
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Baseball players like gladiators? You must have been smoking from the same pipe as the guy who wrote that article.
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Originally posted by Dnil
soccer makes baseball players look tough....we like our gladiators...and well soccer is sissy.
Yes I played a lot of soccer growing up, several all star teams in fact.
You wanna know what's sissy? Morons that watch NFL, Basketball players that get sprains and get carted off on meatwagons (THEY are sissies). I played year round for 7 of 13 years I played, for FREE. I lost count after over 100 sprains and I walked (ran) them off. Those who knock it, either suck at it or wish they had the stamina to run for 90 minutes. Btw, perfectly healthy.
Karaya
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Originally posted by narsus
played soccer for years as a child, but i don't enjoy watching it on TV. It's a sport i would rather be playing than watching.
Me three...
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any of you guys calling NFl players sissies and not "soccer" queens are freaking clueless.
Soccer is for girls, always has been and always will be.
And dowding, read again, I say soccer makes baseball look like gladiators. Thats how sissy soccer is.
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i played soccer once. gay sport. truly.
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Originally posted by Dnil
any of you guys calling NFl players sissies and not "soccer" queens are freaking clueless.
Soccer is for girls, always has been and always will be.
And dowding, read again, I say soccer makes baseball look like gladiators. Thats how sissy soccer is.
Yeah you'd know, things get rather rough while playing on a fourteen years old and under all-star teams. Lots of oranges squirting you in the eye.
But hey Soccer is as much fun to watch as Baseball,
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yes torque, you caught me. I know nothing of sports.
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Originally posted by Dnil
yes torque, you caught me. I know nothing of sports.
Ain't saying that Dnil but i'm curious to know how old the age group was?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I love football.
But, I preferr the NCAA myself. The NFL has become all about the money and less about the game anymore.
I just wish the NCAA would have a mini playoff and a superbowl type game to determin the national champs.
watch out for my huskers.....its a rebuilding year but I'm expecting great things ;)
:aok
Not one to talk (UCLA fan here) but IIRC the Huskers aren't even on the pre-season top 25. How long since that has happened?
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I played 3 sports through High school, football, basketball and soccer. I was recruited to UTSA on basketball. Once I got to college I decided I liked getting drunk a whole lot more.
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Originally posted by Curval
It is sad that such a great game is dismissed by Americans....all because of the mighty TV.:rolleyes:
Yeah sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it goes on for hours with little scoring, and the players frequently lay on the ground pretending to be injured. Or the fact that Football (real football not soccer) is a brilliant game. But yeah keep telling yourself it's about TV.
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Raiders are gay btw.:D
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who cares who is watching what and what not?
Fußball it's world's favourite sport.
I also like to watch Basketball and on the other side
for me American Football is great to watch but it
gets boring after the first 5min ;) Maybe the rules are
so complicated i dont know, it just isnt our loved game.
R
Gh0stFT
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Yeah sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it goes on for hours with little scoring, and the players frequently lay on the ground pretending to be injured. Or the fact that Football (real football not soccer) is a brilliant game. But yeah keep telling yourself it's about TV.
It's about TV.
It's about TV.
It's about TV.
It's about TV.
It's about TV.
It's about TV.
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Ok...but seriously...you want to know the real reason American hate soccer?
Because they tried and tried....but they just don't have any skills....and they SUCK at it.
So...they just accuse anyone who plays/or enjoys it of being gay.
Have a wonderful day.:)
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Soccer is only slightly less lame than cricket.
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Soccer isn't gay. It's a ladies sport, not a gay sport.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Yeah sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it goes on for hours with little scoring, and the players frequently lay on the ground pretending to be injured. Or the fact that Football (real football not soccer) is a brilliant game. But yeah keep telling yourself it's about TV.
Only thing I have against American Football is that it takes 3 1/2 hours to play a sixty minute game, and 3/4 of that 60 minutes is reforming and huddling. so 3 1/2 hours to watch 15 minutes of actual running, passing and tackling.
I'd rather just watch the highlights.
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Sh*t I tought this was a Football thead....
<~~~~ CheeseHead
:D
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Krusher, your ignorance precedes yourself.
Fuggin idiot. When your balls drop, come talk to me.
Karaya
If my balls drop any farther I'll be stepping on them. You may need to have that yeast infection treated, you are getting cranky.
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Rugby is THE team sport.
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i don't like soccer
i even did baseball :)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Not one to talk (UCLA fan here) but IIRC the Huskers aren't even on the pre-season top 25. How long since that has happened?
Its been a while :(
They fired the coaching staff though and are completly ditching their traditional run the ball offense to the "west coast" thing.
It will be interesting to see the huskers w/ a passing game. Who knows.....maybe Tom Osborn will quit the senate and come back to make things better......we'll wait and see, should be an interesting season.
PS the Huskers ALLWAYS play better the lower they are ranked!
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Originally posted by Dnil
any of you guys calling NFl players sissies and not "soccer" queens are freaking clueless.
Soccer is for girls, always has been and always will be.
And dowding, read again, I say soccer makes baseball look like gladiators. Thats how sissy soccer is.
actually the precurser to modern basketball and hockey (a highly similar field sport, adapted to ice in the early days of colonization) were girls sports. soccer and rugby were real mans sports. nfl football is just pussied up rugby...
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Soccer isn't gay. It's a ladies sport, not a gay sport.
I agree
I'd MUCH rather watch a group of women play soccer then men.
I think most of america would too.
In fact if you put these women in skimpy bathing suits with large breasts constantly threatening to pop out.
You would have an instant hit.
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Originally posted by Dnil
soccer makes baseball players look tough....we like our gladiators...and well soccer is sissy.
Yes I played a lot of soccer growing up, several all star teams in fact.
Hey Dnil come here I got a little secret to tell ya, you were playing on a girls team thats why it seemed sissy to ya.
I played soccer for 15 years and when watched guys take hits that would make football players cringe. Ive seen guys walk off the field with someone elses tooth stuck in their head, and I once watched a team member of mine put his knee into someones face hard enough to brake their nose and knock them out. Now this was not done on purpose but Im just stating these occurences to demonstrate that soccer can be a ver physcially exhausting sport and very rough. I do agree that watching it on T.V. is not the most exciting thing to do and that when you get into the premier leauges its very much a game of finesse but ill bet money most of the guys on this BBS can run nearly 45 minutes non stop.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Soccer is only slightly less lame than cricket.
And what would you know about cricket?
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It cracks me up how ignorant America is about sport as played in other parts of the world, but stages a Baseball tournament known as the "World Series", in which just about the only non-American team is the Toronto Blue Jays.
Still, I watched the 1994 world cup football (soccer) fairly avidly, and the US did a pretty good job of hosting it - except for the fact that the grass on some pitches was not cut short enough, and the organisers not letting the managers near the sidelines to offer water to the players who were enduring Florida July heat.
Sport preference is highly subjective - just like AH gameplay preference. My preferences are these: - American football - no interest. Too much stoppage time, in between which there is a pile of men going for a funny shaped ball, until a man dressed as a humbug appears on the scene, blowing a whistle, waving his arms, and sometimes throwing a yellow handkerchief at the men in a bid to make them play nice.
- Baseball - I do enjoy that, but only by going to the games, ie not TV. A great day (or evening) out. Beer, hot dog, peanuts... It's nothing like cricket, by the way.
- Rugby Union - no real understanding of it, but it's fun to watch. Which is the one where they put the ball on the ground and kick it backwards (no stoppage) - Union or League? Whichever it is, that's the one I like.
- Basketball - no interest
- Hockey - no interest
- Football (soccer) some interest, if a good game is on. Been to Wembley twice - 1988 Symod final (Reading beat Luton 4-1 :aok ); 1995 Premier Division playoff - Reading v. Bolton Wanderers - Reading lost, but I'm glad - they would have been unhappy in the Premier Div.)
- Tennis - great game, very watchable - went to the US Open one year.
- Cricket - nothing like baseball. Enjoyable if you understand it, which is probably why so many don't find it enjoyable. I voted for Freddie Flintoff as MOTM at the last Test at Edgbaston. Good showing by Ashley Giles, a close second. Very much hoping to go to the last Test at the Oval, starting August 19th.
Hey Dowding - are you a fan of Sheffield Wednesday? What happened to Chris Waddle? I used to love watching him take penalty kicks. :rofl;):D
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You mean Andrew Flintoff...right? Or is Freddy a nickname?
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Originally posted by Curval
You mean Andrew Flintoff...right? Or is Freddy a nickname?
Yes - Freddie is a nickname - after Fred Flintstone!
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I am a Sheff Wed fan - Chris Waddle hasn't played for us for 10 years and we are a long way from the Premiership. :)
Rugby League is the Rugby you're thinking of.
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Originally posted by Pei
And what would you know about cricket?
I know that cricket is only slightly less lame than having a root canal.
:cool:
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ok, lets see.
Get padded up and have Ray lewis hit you going over the middle.
Then come back and say football is sissy. more then likely he would kill 90% of the people on this board, without a knife.
Now equating running for 45 minutes to taking a 250 pound linebacker hit in the chest is just insanely stupid. Sounds like a lot of sissy girlie men lost their girlfriends to football players.
No hit a soccer player takes is harder then a football player, ever.
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I've never seen a soccer game where they had to intubate and bag/mask a guy right there on the field.
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With 300/400lbs mutants smashing into each other its no wonder.
Football (American)is a skilless game.
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Originally posted by Curval
With 300/400lbs mutants smashing into each other its no wonder.
Football (American)is a skilless game.
Indeed, and I can't see why some people equate the violence aspect (being hit by a 350lb lump) to "quality sport".
:rolleyes::rolleyes: <--- sometimes one is not enough
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Originally posted by beet1e
Indeed, and I can't see why some people equate the violence aspect (being hit by a 350lb lump) to "quality sport".
Yeah, those crazy Japanese...
(http://home.att.ne.jp/red/sumo/mus.gif)
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no one said anything about quality we are talking girlie.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Indeed, and I can't see why some people equate the violence aspect (being hit by a 350lb lump) to "quality sport".
:rolleyes::rolleyes: <--- sometimes one is not enough
Americans believe that sport requires not only speed, strength, agility and great hand-eye coordination.......... It also should have an element of courage.
After all, sport is a substitute for the hunt, right?
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When does a 350lbs lineman need hand to eye cordination? He doesn't..only the guys touching the ball need that...which is about 10% of the team...maybe. The rest just bash into each other. Skilless....absolutely skilless.
The real football has all of the aspect of the game you talk about MT.
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Originally posted by Curval
When does a 350lbs lineman need hand to eye cordination? He doesn't..only the guys touching the ball need that...which is about 10% of the team...maybe. The rest just bash into each other. Skilless....absolutely skilless.
The real football has all of the aspect of the game you talk about MT.
How can soccer have hand-eye coordination when you aitn allowed to touch the damn thing?
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Foot-eye in the real game's case.
And foot-eye is much tougher. MUCH tougher.
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Originally posted by Curval
Foot-eye in the real game's case.
And foot-eye is much tougher. MUCH tougher.
Except the Goalie of course, who requires the hand-eye co-ord more :-)
Glas
JG13 Lokis Kinder
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Soccer, at a kids level is "fluffy time" move up to a mens league (i did at sixteen) and it's a pretty dirty contact sport complete with academy award winning actors. Throw in a first generation Irish ref and it's Rugby with the wrong type of ball.
Football, put twenty pounds of protective gear on and i could spend all day flak'n paint off the Bike helmet head butt'n the 200 lbers trying to run the slots thru the middle. Football easy to play with all that extra weight and a helmet (especially a full cage) that reduces your view and senses, it's tough.
Had more fun play'n Football than Soccer, spent eight years in soccer and five in football, two years of Rugby.
Now Rugby makes both look like a gurl's sport.
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Rugby no doubt is not girlie. I enjoyed the hell out of playing soccer and on occasion had wished it was more popular here. Still its not as tough as football.
I played some rugby not much but some and yes it hurt but I really only got knocked out hurt in football. The pads give a sense of invincibility and guys generally go in full bore and well those pads really dont help much.
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I agree Dnil but i don't think Soccer (select men's league) is an absolute gurlyman game and you're allowed full contact as long as you play the ball and the ref knows the rules, heck the only time i had worse bruises to the bone on my legs was during full contact kick boxing in a ring (five years of that).
Hey Scottish mom here, who else would get you outta bed at 5:00 am on a freezing dec morning to go and swim and few miles with pantyhose on (2 years Tomac swim team).
Aussie Football, dem guz are crazy nutz.
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Originally posted by Curval
When does a 350lbs lineman need hand to eye cordination? He doesn't..only the guys touching the ball need that...which is about 10% of the team...maybe. The rest just bash into each other. Skilless....absolutely skilless.
The real football has all of the aspect of the game you talk about MT.
Actually linemen do a lot of work with their hands. Similar to boxing or martial arts. Their hands aren't as important as a reciever's hands, but at the top level, good quick hands are really important for linemen.
Line play in general takes a lot of skill and talent. You are forgetting that all the other guys are 300 lbs too, so nobody has a major size or strength advantage. You have to have quickness, balance, footwork, quick hands, instincts/football smarts, as well as strength. Not to mention the hundreds of variations on blocking schemes that you have to memorize and be able to switch to instantly based on play call, audibles, and pre- and post-snap reads. me Maybe at the high school or college level you will meet linemen you can physically dominate, but not at the NFL level. You are a bad troll or a football ignoramus Mr. Superjizz.
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Originally posted by Torque
Aussie Football, dem guz are crazy nutz.
My favorite NFL punter (other than Ray Guy) is Darren Bennett. As far as kicking he is average, or maybe a little above average. But watch when the snap is off-line. He will adjust and kick from an awkward angle and still get a strong punt off quickly and accurately. Or watch when the return man gets through the tacklers. He will put a HARD hit on a return man. Great football player who learned his trade in Australia.
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BTW I like watching World Cup soccer, and I played for about 8 years as a kid, until I discovered tackle football, cars, beer, and poontang in that order.
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Originally posted by Torque
complete with academy award winning actors.
Probably the major reason I tired of the game and don't watch it much. Laying on the ground pretending to be injured - unamerican as hell.
Sadly the Euros have brought this to the NBA (Floppe Divac) and the NHL (diving epidemic). Fortunately they aren't yet man enough to mess with the NFL. :)
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Line play in general takes a lot of skill and talent. You are forgetting that all the other guys are 300 lbs too, so nobody has a major size or strength advantage. You have to have quickness, balance, footwork, quick hands, instincts/football smarts, as well as strength. Not to mention the hundreds of variations on blocking schemes that you have to memorize and be able to switch to instantly based on play call, audibles, and pre- and post-snap reads. me Maybe at the high school or college level you will meet linemen you can physically dominate, but not at the NFL level. You are a bad troll or a football ignoramus Mr. Superjizz.
Hut 1, Hut 2, Hut Hut....crash.
Rinse and repeat....over and over.
Boring and basically neanderthaleque.
I knew you were going to mention playbooks and the need to memorize multiple scenarios and set movements etc. Why do you think that is man? Could it be that football players don't exactly have the reputation as being intelllectuals? These guys need parameters. Aside from the fact that there are like a hundred guys of immense size hopped up on steroids to the max and looking to "kick butt" on a hundred yard "gridiron", most of these guys "need" to memorize stuff. They can't be thinking on their feet for goodness sakes. They need to react on instinct. Instinct to jump from one set play to another on a moment's notice.
Hey, they are good at it...no question. But I'm sure you could teach gorillas to do the same job. Smart gorillas admittedly.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
BTW I like watching World Cup soccer, and I played for about 8 years as a kid, until I discovered tackle football, cars, beer, and poontang in that order.
Lots of stuff you enjoy more than poontang hommo boy. Maybe you should go pull on some tights that football players wear and wiggle your backside at SOB.
That would get you some real man action....maybe.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Probably the major reason I tired of the game and don't watch it much. Laying on the ground pretending to be injured - unamerican as hell.
Diving is a red cardable offense. Get caught and you are gone. Not so sure we watched the same World Cup or Euro Tournaments.
Actually it is a yellow cardable offense. You gotta do it twice to be sent off I think. ooooops
:o
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Originally posted by Curval
Diving is a red cardable offense. Get caught and you are gone. Not so sure we watched the same World Cup or Euro Tournaments.
Actually it is a yellow cardable offense. You gotta do it twice to be sent off I think. ooooops
:o
Juergen Klinsmann used to do that all the time in the c1990 and in that year's world cup. I think it could well be red cardable if done in the opposing team's 18 yard area in an attempt to elicit a penalty kick - that's what Klinsmann used to try - a move that became known as the Klinsmann Dive.
I still think American Football is boring, but Funked's attempts to make it sound interesting are... entertaining. ;)
Still waiting to hear why the baseball playoff tournament, which involves only teams from the USA and maybe a couple of Canadian, is known as the "World" Series. :rofl
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Sheese, i somewhat like and respect you all, but comon guys this is getting anus. :rolleyes:
And Funkster wtf was that post about a punter supposed to mean, i'm mean really wtf? :D
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Originally posted by Torque
Sheese, i somewhat like and respect you all, but comon guys this is getting anus. :rolleyes:
And Funkster wtf was that post about a punter supposed to mean, i'm mean really wtf? :D
I'm just messing with Funkypants.
It's all just good clean fun man. It just looks worse than it is.
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Originally posted by beet1e
Still waiting to hear why the baseball playoff tournament, which involves only teams from the USA and maybe a couple of Canadian, is known as the "World" Series. :rofl
Because it has been for over a hundred years, from when baseball was only played here. It is still played at the highest level here, even though it has picked up a strong following elsewhere.
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Originally posted by majic
Because it has been for over a hundred years, from when baseball was only played here. It is still played at the highest level here, even though it has picked up a strong following elsewhere.
Not a good explanation. Was the US "the world" 100 years ago? Don't think so.
Japan has a number of teams now and a whole pro league but they don't play in the WORLD Series. Why is that? Cuba has some incredible payers...no Cuban team in WS. The Dominican Republic likewise.
It isn't a World Series. It is a North American Series.
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Originally posted by Curval
Not a good explanation. Was the US "the world" 100 years ago? Don't think so.
It was the baseball world, yes.
Japan has a number of teams now and a whole pro league but they don't play in the WORLD Series. Why is that? Cuba has some incredible payers...no Cuban team in WS. The Dominican Republic likewise.
It isn't a World Series. It is a North American Series.
You may have noticed that the best players come here to play. For example, the White Sox just acquired (Cuban) Jose Contreras from the Yankees. This gives them players from seven different countries (including all the ones you mentioned). Even the manager is Venezuelan.
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Only about 50% of the players are from England in the Premiership. Does that mean the FA cup can be renamed to the World Cup? Yay!:)
The football season kicks off on saturday, i'm going to watch Argyle v Millwall. There's going to be a great atmosphere.:) I do hope there wont be any trouble ,i hear most pubs in plymouth are closing on saturday to avoid trouble from millwall fans.
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Originally posted by Dnil
I enjoyed the hell out of playing soccer and on occasion had wished it was more popular here. Still its not as tough as football.
Why are you still posting this garbage?
Karaya
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Originally posted by thrila
Only about 50% of the players are from England in the Premiership. Does that mean the FA cup can be renamed to the World Cup? Yay!:)
You could if there wasn't another World Cup with a higher level of play.
:p
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Originally posted by majic
You may have noticed that the best players come here to play. For example, the White Sox just acquired (Cuban) Jose Contreras from the Yankees. This gives them players from seven different countries (including all the ones you mentioned). Even the manager is Venezuelan.
So... players from seven different countries playing a sport which is staged in only one or two countries equates to "the World"? :lol
Thrila - Milwall? Bloody 'ell. I'd stay home if Brighton and Hove Albion were visiting, never mind Milwall. Watch out for F-Troop.
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When i said i hope there will be no trouble, i really meant i hope their wont be much trouble. With Plymouth being new to div 1 i'm sure there will be plenty of supporters trying to prove themselves.:( There is going to be a very large police presence.
I'm a net geek and built like one too, no fighting for me.:D
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cause its fact.
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Originally posted by beet1e
So... players from seven different countries playing a sport which is staged in only one or two countries equates to "the World"? :lol
You know, if we staged a soccer tournament and termed the winner "World Champion", then you might have a point. As it stands, the team that wins the World Series is the best team on Earth, bar none.
btw- the 7 different country thing was just on one team (just happens to be the one I follow). You'll find MLB players from just about any country in the world (hey, that word again) that has baseball played at a high level.
Come to think of it, you should be *****ing about the NBA. They have a "World Champion" and nowadays, our Olympic type teams can't even beat the Italians.
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Originally posted by majic
You know, if we staged a soccer tournament and termed the winner "World Champion", then you might have a point. As it stands, the team that wins the World Series is the best team on Earth, bar none.
I still don't think the "World" Series is a valid name for a tournament which is played only in North America and which is not open to any other countries. There are two leagues - American League and National League - which one of those might Germany be allowed to play in, were they to field a team?
I had a baseball book describing how the "World" Series worked (before all this inter-league play started) and it described how each team played all the others, home and away for a total of (IIRC) 162 games. How could that be possible if teams from other parts of the world were allowed to play?
My book described the "designated hitter" rule variation of the National league and how the last 7 games of the "World" Series would see both sets of rules used. The point being that for all those games to be played to arrive at "World Champion", the whole contest has to be staged in North America.
The soccer World Cup deserves its title because teams from anywhere in the world can compete - same thing for Rugby and Cricket. Same thing for card games like Bridge. But not baseball. There is no World tournament, within the accepted parlance of the word "World".
Regards,
Beet1e. (World champion poppy grower - in my back garden at any rate)
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Well, er, you kind of made my next point for me. Since travel restrictions make it impractical for games to be played all over, they would have to be played here, where the money is.
:)
I almost touched on this in my last post. I think that eventually MLB will expand to more and more countries. Mexico, parts of South America, Japan, etc. Travel times now make that difficult. (They have already played regular season games in Japan.)
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Originally posted by majic
Well, er, you kind of made my next point for me. Since travel restrictions make it impractical for games to be played all over, they would have to be played here, where the money is.
What does money have to do with it? And why would a tournament which is truly a World tournament have to be staged in the USA? Read Curval's post a while back - the USA is not the world, much though some people would like to think it is. :D
Cricket is played on a World stage, in which even less well off countries like India and Pakistan are able to field teams. Football too - the World Cup sees teams coming from obscure African countries like Cameroon! Money has nothing to do with it.