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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sabre on August 04, 2004, 12:39:02 PM
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This is a great article that puts things in IRAQ in perspective.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/zinsmeister200408040849.asp
I've got to agree with this guy. As a retired military officer (with resources within the military still), I believe I've been able to keep a clearer, more complete picture of what is happening in IRAQ than what you'll see on the networks or CNN.
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Does this mean that NPR is presenting an objective view or the situation?? I'm aghast...
MiG
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NPR? Try again.
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"Pro iraq war" people will like this article, "anti iraq war" people probably wont.
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Grun
True enough, I tend to believe it cause I have heard things from people who were there that back it up.
We never did get together for that beer!
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What a lovley twist of reality that was. People miss trust the the press because it gave a blank check to Bushes lies and this guy presents it as they miss trust the press because they are showing a small part of the struggles in Iraq.
One news agency tells people the news they want to hear and the news the presidency wants them to hear and that news agency is presented as the last bastion of truth in the US media.
Weak wristed liberal intelectuals cannot understand the cult of manly virile satalite technitians that the US military is populated with. lol
Big supprise. Tell somone what they want to hear and they lap it up no matter how rediculous. The press shows bad things about the war in Iraq because they are cowerdly wimps that were picked on by manly conservatives in high school.
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I think your reading more into then is there Pongo.
Sure he made light of the "wimpy' reporter, but you have to admit for whatever reason, the news media has a tendancy to report sensational stories, over boring stuff like the power grid is working better.
Coming from NRO, I take it with a big grain of salt, but there is some truth to it. (I think)
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if america is not doing well (on everything from the economy to the war on terror and everything inbetween) the dems are doing good, if america is doing well the dems are not ...
best thing for skerry is a 500 point drop in the stockmarket, massive layoffs and planes filled with bodybags...
what is wrong with that picture???
LANDSLIDE BUSH!
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My wife's best friend's son is in the guard. He went to Iraq about 2 months ago. I'm sure he is in the food service biz or something like that. Point is, his tentmate was killed a couple weeks ago.
This war has begun to hit home in many ways.
One of our squadmembers and someone many will know as an involved member of the AH community is a NG member working as a firefighter in Iraq.
No real point except to say politics schmolitics.. lets get this thing done so these guys can come home.
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i think it can easily turn into "we hate the military, baby killin soldiers" 1960's mindset for the left, especially after they lose in Nov ...
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Originally posted by Sabre
This is a great article that puts things in IRAQ in perspective.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/zinsmeister200408040849.asp
I've got to agree with this guy. As a retired military officer (with resources within the military still), I believe I've been able to keep a clearer, more complete picture of what is happening in IRAQ than what you'll see on the networks or CNN.
Good article. The press never reports good news. Except for one item, I think the war was conducted quite well by US/Allies. Item: We shouldn't have been there in the first place.
curly
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Originally posted by midnight Target
My wife's best friend's son is in the guard. He went to Iraq about 2 months ago. I'm sure he is in the food service biz or something like that. Point is, his tentmate was killed a couple weeks ago.
This war has begun to hit home in many ways.
One of our squadmembers and someone many will know as an involved member of the AH community is a NG member working as a firefighter in Iraq.
No real point except to say politics schmolitics.. lets get this thing done so these guys can come home.
On that, we can agree, MT.
Pongo...oh, never mind.
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Sabre...
dont worry I dont mind.
Another angle, including a link to your article. (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0805/dailyUpdate.html?s=ent2)
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what is often seen on tv does not give accurate picture of situation in places like iraq and afghanistan. most common question from iraqi father in shia areas is "you are not leaving soon yes?". also many things happen that not make tv news and when it seems like if something good happen never make tv news you start to wonder. anyone see tv news report of iraqi gunmen in falluja who raid and kill non iraqi terrorist to free truck drivers from jordan that non iraqi insurgent take hostage? they quoted as saying "they were not iraqi and were enemy of free iraq so they were killed".
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Originally posted by AKcurly
Good article. The press never reports good news. Except for one item, I think the war was conducted quite well by US/Allies. Item: We shouldn't have been there in the first place.
curly
by "item" you mean "opinion of one citizen" right? :)
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Originally posted by Pongo
Sabre...
dont worry I dont mind.
Another angle, including a link to your article. (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0805/dailyUpdate.html?s=ent2)
This CSM article appears to back up the notion that the media is focusing on bad news, does it not? Example:
A series of recent reports in US and British media about the security situation in Iraq has painted a picture of a country overwhelmed by a surge of violence.
It further implies a subtle agreement with the NRO writer with statements like, "Yet, the news from Iraq seems grim" (itallics added by me for emphasis).
Of course, the CSM article offers no conclusions, but instead simply recounts the headlines of various news organizations.
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Good read, Sabre. Thanks for posting it.
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Originally posted by Eagler
if america is not doing well (on everything from the economy to the war on terror and everything inbetween) the dems are doing good, if america is doing well the dems are not ...
best thing for skerry is a 500 point drop in the stockmarket, massive layoffs and planes filled with bodybags...
what is wrong with that picture???
What's wrong is that you could say the same thing about the republicans if a democrat was in office. If it were true. ;) Both sides want to point out that the other is doing a bad job--that doesn't mean body bags and stock crashes, for either side.
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I guess it depends on what meaning you attribute to the term "paints a picture"
I attribute no inherent accusation of dishonesty to the term.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Big supprise. Tell somone what they want to hear and they lap it up no matter how rediculous. The press shows bad things about the war in Iraq because they are cowerdly wimps that were picked on by manly conservatives in high school.
deth to amerika!