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Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 05, 2004, 05:38:35 PM
I have to admit that I have been checking the BB very frequently yesterday and today.  Pyro's message on 7-28 stating that "The outside shape of the first AH2 plane is almost complete and we’ll post some screenshots when that part is complete" made me think that the screenies might (there is still time) show up late this week.

The reasons are twofold:

1) There has not been a new unit added to AH for more than a year and a half due to the work on AH2.  It has been a long drought and it is nearing it's end.

2) I am keen to see a new unit (not a redone Bf109, which looks very nice) done to the AH2 specs.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: SELECTOR on August 05, 2004, 06:20:08 PM
i agree...
any chance of even naming the new borns HTC?
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: 327thBS on August 05, 2004, 07:56:03 PM
i would'nt mind that to much either !:D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 05, 2004, 09:41:56 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing some screenies.  I have to admit, ive been checking this BBs about every 5 hours every day looking for a hint of new aircraft. :D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: MOIL on August 06, 2004, 12:32:56 AM
I thought all of you guys would have seen the screenie of the new A/C by now........
(http://www.realflight.com/planes/ao2sopwith1b-01.jpg)

Of course HT hasn't stated what gun platform will be attached, something good I'm sure!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Heiliger on August 06, 2004, 01:03:54 AM
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Of course HT hasn't stated what gun platform will be attached, something good I'm sure!


LOL!

(http://hometown.aol.com/devilzbane/images/wbp_0182.jpg)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: ramzey on August 06, 2004, 02:27:17 AM
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Originally posted by Heiliger
LOL!

(http://hometown.aol.com/devilzbane/images/wbp_0182.jpg)

well,
thats could be great idea for our chute
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2004, 03:07:11 AM
I can see it now....

"THAT CHUTE GAVE ME A PILOT WOUND!!!! HES CHEATING!!!:mad: IM QUITTING AH BECAUSE CHUTES KEEP SHOOTING ME!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: I LOST MY 163 BECAUSE OF A CHUTE:mad: UBER CHUTE IS A UFO! CHUTE DWEEB! WHY DONT YOU GET IN A PLANE INSTEAD OF FLOATING THERE!"
:lol

btw, would we be able to land kills in a chute? I've had 6 proxies while walking around in a barn
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: DipStick on August 06, 2004, 07:45:32 AM
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Originally posted by Raptor01
I've had 6 proxies while walking around in a barn

Barndweeb!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Pyro on August 06, 2004, 12:07:18 PM
It's taken longer than expected but we should be able to put something up today.  That Boulton Paul turret has been a real pain.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: mars01 on August 06, 2004, 12:08:59 PM
Whooooooo  Hooooooooo  You the Man!!!!!!!!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Roscoroo on August 06, 2004, 12:10:07 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

(http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/boultonpaul_defiant/defiant2_600.jpg)

muhahahahaaaa
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Roscoroo on August 06, 2004, 12:11:14 PM
(http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/boultonpaul_defiant/defiant3_600.jpg)

or this one ???
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Roscoroo on August 06, 2004, 12:12:15 PM
or perhaps

(http://www.cbrnp.com/profiles/quarter2/boultonpaul_defiant/defiant1_600.jpg)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Dux on August 06, 2004, 12:16:14 PM
lol
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: thrila on August 06, 2004, 12:22:29 PM
Hehe....you're so cruel pyro.:)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Edbert on August 06, 2004, 12:23:08 PM
At least the RAF would have something to fly in the night version of BoB that is coming up :D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 12:24:39 PM
I'll grant that the Defiant is an interesting concept and one that was indepentantly investigated by many nations.  Only the British were looney enough to actually put it into service.


Not a bad looking aircraft, all things considered.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: SlapShot on August 06, 2004, 12:26:07 PM
Boulton Paul  Defiant

"The Defiant was to prove, that a fighter not noted for its manoeverablity and with all its armament concentrated in a turret instead of in the wings, was proven tactically wrong. It was really not suited to operations on the scale that was taking place during 1940. By August 1940 it was withdrawn fron daylight combat operations but as a A.I. radar equipped night fighter it done extremely well shooting down more raiders per interception than any other night fighter of 1940-1941."
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Fruda on August 06, 2004, 12:26:07 PM
You're forgetting about this one...

(http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/wwii/mig3.gif)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: ramzey on August 06, 2004, 12:37:36 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
It's taken longer than expected but we should be able to put something up today.  That Boulton Paul turret has been a real pain.


wow, another bomber Barracuda or Wellington?
somone in HTC really like naval bombers;)

Defiant is really late for BoB event
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2004, 12:51:19 PM
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wow, another bomber Barracuda or Wellington?
somone in HTC really like naval bombers

Defiant is really late for BoB event

(http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/bomber/barracuda/barr_m.jpg)
The first monoplane torpedo bomber of the RN. It was said that the Barracuda was designed by a committee and built in a madhouse. In fact, it was not that bad an aircraft, but early versions were seriously underpowered, and it was certainly ugly. The Barracuda was a shoulder-wing design with large slotted Fairey-Youngman flaps and a T-tail.
(That thing is UGLY)

(http://www.assonetart.com/brglasswellingtonfr.jpg)
hope your right  about it NOT being the defiant...
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 12:52:34 PM
Yoohoo, the British B-24 Liberator G.R.VI  and B-24J had a Boulton Paul tail turret!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: ramzey on August 06, 2004, 12:53:40 PM
yes LIBERATOR!
or
HaLIFAX
or Hudson


http://www.aeroplanemonthly.com/archive/turret/turret.htm
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 12:55:14 PM
Ima faint if its a B-24.  Really, Ill pass out and faint for a week or more. :D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Raptor on August 06, 2004, 12:58:50 PM
QUICK! Go for the wallet!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: SlapShot on August 06, 2004, 01:00:40 PM
Turret Habitats

Among those aircraft - British and American - fitted with Boulton Paul turrets may be mentioned the following:-

Defiant - 4 x .303-in. Mid-upper
 
Halifax - 2 x .303-in. Nose  2 x .303-in. Mid-upper  4 x .303-in. Tail

Lockheed Hudson  2 x .303-in. Mid-upper

Ventura  4 x .303-in. Mid-upper

Liberator  4 x .303-in. Mid-upper 4 x .303-in. Tail
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Westy on August 06, 2004, 01:05:51 PM
"... had a Boulton Paul tail turret!"

 Who ae you who is so wise in the way of the Boulton Paul turret?

;)


Glad you pointed that out. I wondering why such a useless plane as the Defiant would be coming out at this point in time.  Even in a BOB scenario it would be essentially useless (IMO) as there is are no forward firing guns and there aren't enough participants to have both a pilot and a gunner.
 IMO you'd need both to use that plane as an offensive platform on line. Without coordinated maneuvering and gunning you have the pilot jumping between positions and that doesn't work well exept when attacking a base bineg vulched or defending oneself from enemy aircraft attack.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 01:09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Westy
"... had a Boulton Paul tail turret!"
 Who ae you who is so wise in the way of the Boulton Paul turret?
;)

Hehe, I do a lot of research on B-24s. :)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Westy on August 06, 2004, 01:10:42 PM
Baltimore Mk III had em too.

Let the speculation begin  (and run amok)!!!  :)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 01:13:24 PM
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Originally posted by Westy
Baltimore Mk III had em too.

Let the speculation begin  (and run amok)!!!  :)

Thats one of the ugliest birds Ive ever seen!!

(http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/attack/a4/a30-10.jpg)



:D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Pyro on August 06, 2004, 01:16:56 PM
I thought it was common knowledge that it was going to be the Defiant?  There was a big thread about it not that long ago.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 01:21:44 PM
Not that I recall...?  But then again, I dont check in all of the forums so I could have very easily overlooked it.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 01:24:19 PM
Pyro,

Yeah.  There was just some misaprehension about it being perked or not in that thread.

Obviously it will not be perked.

It will be interesting to see if any pilot/gunner combos will be as successful in AH as they were in '40 and '41.

Given how often people fly directly up the 6 of a B-17 or B-26 formation in AH I think the Defiant will be more successful than many are giving it credit for.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 01:25:24 PM
Could this possibly be the thread that is being mentioned?  http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125336&highlight=Boulton+Paul+Defiant

Now, since the Boulton Paul Turret has been/is being modelled, then that means it could open the door for all the other planes mentioned in this thread that had it.

I do have to agree with Karnak though, if someone can get a gunner, the Defiant would be a force to be reckoned with.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Edbert on August 06, 2004, 01:38:13 PM
Initially I was not in agreement that Doug was being cruel.

Quote
Originally posted by Pyro
I thought it was common knowledge that it was going to be the Defiant?  There was a big thread about it not that long ago.


But now I am!
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Furball on August 06, 2004, 01:45:08 PM
Defiant?

i think pyro is fishing.

Lets hope its a Halifax B.III.


(http://www.aviationclassics.org.uk/factimages/halifax.jpg)


btw.. theres 1 defiant left.

(http://website.lineone.net/~roling47/Miscell/val1a.JPG)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: SirLoin on August 06, 2004, 01:48:25 PM
Yep..He caught a few lunkers today,..:)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 01:50:56 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Yep..He caught a few lunkers today,..:)

Welp, if he is fishing, I guess you could mark me down as a "lunker". :)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: simshell on August 06, 2004, 01:54:21 PM
maybe hes just making fun of you all?:D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 02:10:18 PM
The only way Pyro will have caught me is if it is actually a Defiant.  And that would be a very secure hook in that case.

I don't believe that anybody actually thinks Pyro is being serious.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: ramzey on August 06, 2004, 02:19:45 PM
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Originally posted by simshell
maybe hes just making fun of you all?:D


lets hope:rolleyes:
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Edbert on August 06, 2004, 02:21:43 PM
Go look at the announcement!
























Nobody said he was serious, you guys swallowed that one on your own. We said he was being cruel :D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Westy on August 06, 2004, 02:51:56 PM
oh my!

I imagine it would be used as a punishment plane.  Instead of getting squelched or muted by moderators any foulmouthed mah_roons would have thier hangar choice limited to the Defiant! and if they are in the air already then the ride are in switches into one instantly too.

cool ;)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Fruda on August 06, 2004, 02:53:13 PM
I hope you really didn't believe him.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 02:53:46 PM
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Originally posted by Edbert MOL

Nobody said he was serious, you guys swallowed that one on your own. We said he was being cruel :D

Swallowed what?
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 02:54:32 PM
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Originally posted by Fruda
I hope you really didn't believe him.

Now watch it really be a Defiant. :lol
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 06, 2004, 03:09:24 PM
How bout no screenshots OR even an announcement.
Just put em in and see how long it takes folks to realise they are there :)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 03:29:45 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
How bout no screenshots OR even an announcement.
Just put em in and see how long it takes folks to realise they are there :)

The multi-megabyte patch would be too big a clue.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Angus on August 06, 2004, 04:41:19 PM
Defiant would be ok...
If it had the "Hurr" icon that is :D
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Mitsu on August 06, 2004, 10:46:09 PM
Pyro.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Meatwad on August 07, 2004, 06:27:29 AM
Only thing I seen with that kind of turrent is the Lockheed PBO, Beaufighter, B24, or the Defiant.
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: Rasker on August 09, 2004, 11:32:59 PM
btw the Defiants didnt do that badly against unescorted German buffs during daylight phase of BoB, one account mentioned them flying alongside Ju88's and giving them broadsides :)
Title: Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new aircraft
Post by: SunKing on August 09, 2004, 11:35:30 PM
Karnak please start a " Man, how I want to see a screenie of the new bomber " thread. tia