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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUTTZ on August 05, 2004, 06:06:43 PM
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I have a question mabe you can answer.
Computer 1:
p3-800 512 ram
I have a security Dongle on my printer port to run a program.
Full version of program.
Computer 2: p2 300
Slow as Sheet
Security dongle on printer port to run LIMITED version of above program.
Problem: program WILL ONLY RUN IN WIN98 or SE version.
Problem: computer 2: also has an ethernet cable to run equipment. Ethernet card is their brand NO others will work. It also is ISA ( old large black slots)
And the ethernet card WILL NOT WORK with VIA chip sets.
So we digitize on computer 1 and put it on floppy and load into computer 2.
Question: anyway I can run a server as a buffer?
I really need to get faster computers, but I am bottlenecked at old hardware.
Any suggestions?
Computer 1 has 1 ISA slot but is Via chipset so I can't use it as Computer 2.
Computer 1 can use a VIA chipset, since it doesn't use the ethernet card.
anyway around this?
would a server recognize the dongle?
NUTTZ
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i have a dongle
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Why cant a via chipset run an old nic. Need to know what kind of network card that is and its IRQ (or DMA chan) is. Reserve that IRQ in the MB BIOS for isa slots. If you dont have that option you might be out of luck there. You'll have to reset the IRQ with software or jumpers and keep trying.
Any compter with stanard LPT settings should recognise your security dongle. I assume its just a parallel software key with passover to the printer for standard printing.
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It reads the security dongle the ethernet card is called a starlan card it is specificly used for a certain type of computerized embrodery machine. The CARD won't read via chipsets. the card can be changed IRQ and DMA channels. The card is the gobetween the computer and 2 embroidery machines.
I use computer 1 for artwork AND to digitize, the Digitizing software only runs in win98. I can get a faster computer thats not a problem. Also win98se won't recognize more ram ( atleast this one won't) I have 3 Gigs of ram I'm not using. I need a faster CPU and more ram for the art programs but my bottleneck is the digitizing software.
So IF I have to buy or build a seperate comp just for the digitizing, I was wondering IF i just built a server. Would that fix my problems. I don't really want to section off the HD to read dual versions of windows.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by montag
Why cant a via chipset run an old nic. Need to know what kind of network card that is and its IRQ (or DMA chan) is. Reserve that IRQ in the MB BIOS for isa slots. If you dont have that option you might be out of luck there. You'll have to reset the IRQ with software or jumpers and keep trying.
Any compter with stanard LPT settings should recognise your security dongle. I assume its just a parallel software key with passover to the printer for standard printing.
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yes, but i bet yours didn't cost 64k:)
NUTTZ
Originally posted by JB73
i have a dongle
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
It reads the security dongle the ethernet card is called a starlan card it is specificly used for a certain type of computerized embrodery machine. The CARD won't read via chipsets. the card can be changed IRQ and DMA channels. The card is the gobetween the computer and 2 embroidery machines.
Unlikely to work with win98. Card is very old.
Good luck.
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You have too much time on your hands Nuttz....
LOL has a puter worth 64K and post in here for puter advice to Skuzzy....
~~~Loser~~~
Nuttz, get a Life.
*Skuzz not knockin on you, hell I'm upgrading...*
~64K for a frikken puter and posts in here... what a frikken loser!~
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
And worse than that he can't afford puter help... he calls on Skuzzy...
*Skuzz ya know this was'nt a knock on you...hell make him pay for the advice...*
MacMAW
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card works in Win98, just it's an old ISA slot AND it won't work with a VIA chipset. Finding a MoBo that doesn't have a Via chipset, can handle a big CPU, AND have an ISA slot is almost impossible. Therefor my Q to Skuzzy IF I put the dongle on a server inbetween a fast computer to used for graphics and the digitizing program would be feasable.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by montag
Unlikely to work with win98. Card is very old.
Good luck.
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Just thought Id lend a hand. Good luck.
;)
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64k for the program... computer wasn't included!!!!
We just passed 1 Mil in equipment and other business related stuff, hardly a loser:)
If It wasn't for people like me, Skuzzy would not have gotten his Nickname, I've been using the card he helped develope since it was introduced. The only difference is, He was still in puberty back then:) And probably 50 LBS. lighter.
You can drop the "Tude" since you have no idea what I do Or what my question was about. That 64k has bought me a 1/4 mil house in the burbs, 3- 65 GTO's 2 retail stores ( I own) 2- 2 bedroom apts ( I own) a 24 foot century, and all the other toys. I am a happy camper, you obviously are not self employed or own a business, well knowing you need to spend money to make money.
The question addressed to Skuzzy was quite simple, If he doesn't want to answer he won't, but please don't answer for him.
Warmly,
NUTTZ
Originally posted by AWMac
You have too much time on your hands Nuttz....
Put it to some worth other than posting in here.
Thank you.
Mac
~64K for a frikken puter and posts in here... what a frikken loser!~
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
And worse than that he can't afford puter help... he calls on Skuzzy...
*Skuzz ya know this was'nt a knock on you...hell make him pay for the advice...*
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Wish I could answer your questions like skuzzy could. I only build 4 systems ever but I think I know alot.
:D
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Couldn't you update that digitizing software?
Server won't help you much, if you can't get running 2 ethernet adapters in the same machine (assuming that embroidery machine has to be directly connected to ISA ethernet card and that win98 doesn't support more than one adapter).
Why don't ya try buying cheap 4 port switch and plug it between your embroidery machine and computer #2.
If it works, just plug computer #1 into switch as well and share data (of course, you'll have to configure home network)
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Originally posted by NUTTZ
64k for the program... computer wasn't included!!!!
We just passed 1 Mil in equipment and other business related stuff, hardly a loser:)
Just a Mil???? Yep written with LOSER all over it....
If It wasn't for people like me, Skuzzy would not have gotten his Nickname, I've been using the card he helped develope since it was introduced. The only difference is, He was still in puberty back then:) And probably 50 LBS. lighter.
Soooo you have a tag-a-long buddy then... it takes "Two Nuttz" to amount to anything.... Huh a One Nutt Loser...
Grow up Son... Yer not screwing with yer fellow Girl Scout.
What a wuss....
You can drop the "Tude" since you have no idea what I do Or what my question was about. That 64k has bought me a 1/4 mil house in the burbs, 3- 65 GTO's 2 retail stores ( I own) 2- 2 bedroom apts ( I own) a 24 foot century, and all the other toys. I am a happy camper, you obviously are not self employed or own a business, well knowing you need to spend money to make money.
The question addressed to Skuzzy was quite simple, If he doesn't want to answer he won't, but please don't answer for him.
Warmly,
NUTTZ
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Hey Nuttz.... Lick mine too Bud.... 64K for a puter...Yo Nuttz I have a Commodore64 I've just upgraded... gets VOIP.
Ohh fergot I do a lil in the industry...
and yer lil toyz.... yer dreams hon.
LOL
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
*pssst* try partitioning... if you can't get master and slave right then work from the far end in. BTW clean the pins at the far end first, then clean as you go. check jumpers... seems you have it off assed.*
Clocking? Compatibility? OLd?
64K is alot to just run in the dark with... but then again yer NUTTZ. The Lone Testicle....
Have fun sweetheart...
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The company decided to go into a different direction and build single head machines that have everything ( software,hardware built into the machine) I'm trying to find a way to upgrade the computer CPU while still staying in the perameters of what the old hardware needs.
The security dongles are attached into the printer port, thats what opens up the program. Now I have 3 options...
1: buy a better computer and partition the HD to read win98 and XP. This would seam the easiest way out. But I really don't want to do this.
2: buy another computer and use 1 fast one for graphics and one for the digitizing. I'd rather have 1 computer on my desk than 2.
3: Since buying another computer looks like my only way out, I was wondering if a server with the Dongle plugged into it would be able to read the program in my other computer or If a computer could read a program from a server. I have win NT for a server, but really have no experience in this department. Thats why I was asking Skuzzy, maybe he could answer the server question.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by 2bighorn
Couldn't you update that digitizing software?
Server won't help you much, if you can't get running 2 ethernet adapters in the same machine (assuming that embroidery machine has to be directly connected to ISA ethernet card and that win98 doesn't support more than one adapter).
Why don't ya try buying cheap 4 port switch and plug it between your embroidery machine and computer #2.
If it works, just plug computer #1 into switch as well and share data (of course, you'll have to configure home network)
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Put the crack pipe down and walk away. I have NO idea what you are trying to say. Or why you even jumped in to just give me a hard time.
Remember I wasn't the one just out of the blue calling you a loser. You can puff your chest out all you want , it's not going to change my day one bit.
Second, why would you make fun of someone who kicked cancer? Your really a low life for making fun of my cancer problem, You laugh at all cancer patients? And make fun of thier problems? just curious? The one remaining is working double overtime, anytime you feel the need to come over and lick it, your more than welcome.
Have a pleasant day AWmac.
and lay off the drink.
NUTTZ
Originally posted by AWMac
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Hey Nuttz.... Lick mine too Bud.... 64K for a puter...Yo Nuttz I have a Commodore64 I've just upgraded... gets VOIP.
Ohh fergot I do a lil in the industry...
and yer lil toyz.... yer dreams hon.
LOL
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
*pssst* try partitioning... if you can't get master and slave right then work from the far end in. BTW clean the pins at the far end first, then clean as you go. check jumpers... seems you have it off assed.*
Clocking? Compatibility? OLd?
64K is alot to just run in the dark with... but then again yer NUTTZ. The Lone Testicle....
Have fun sweetheart...
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Well, 99% of secured software won't run unless dongle is on physical LPT, but you could test anyway.
Just network both of your machines and capture LPT port on one, swap the dongle and see if it works.
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I'll try that, It might give an idea IF the server would work
Thanks
NUTTZ
Originally posted by 2bighorn
Well, 99% of secured software won't run unless dongle is on physical LPT, but you could test anyway.
Just network both of your machines and capture LPT port on one, swap the dongle and see if it works.
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nice nuttz, you've done well for yourself, good for you. (and i genuinely mean that)
But... and i have to put this in.... $250,000 would buy you a 1 bedroom flat (or condo whatever you yanks call it) here, not a nice house! ;)
this is average house price in UK, prices in and around london are much more inflated.
(http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/graphs/monthly_graph1.gif)
154,299.00 GBP = 281,751.28 USD
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NUTTZ, the dongle will not read across a network, it must be physically installed on the computer the software is going to run on.
The software opens the physical LPT port to read the license key from the dongle to insure the software is licensed. This direct access by-passes any attempt to read it across a network.
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Terminal server is a work around to the dongle security, I havent seen win98 app that you couldn't remove the dongles driver and replace with the I386 version yet..
My neighbor has that embroidery package I didn't realize it cost so much, must be why they take a cruise every 3 months...
IKON
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Well, I've learned that if I have a question for any HTC person, I'll send it in an e-mail. My skin's too thin.;)
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Thanks, that was the answer i wanted, before i wasted money.
In the post after this IKON suggested my second guess. IF the software and the dongle was on a server could another computer access it and work the program?
NUTTZ
Originally posted by Skuzzy
NUTTZ, the dongle will not read across a network, it must be physically installed on the computer the software is going to run on.
The software opens the physical LPT port to read the license key from the dongle to insure the software is licensed. This direct access by-passes any attempt to read it across a network.
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What he is suggesting is a bit of a hack. I do not suggest those types of things, as there are normally side effects to them.
No offense 1kon.
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OK, Thanks. I wasn't doing anything illegal I DID buy the 2 security dongles and software.
Skuzzy, Thanks for taking time to answer the questions.
And 1KON and others , thanks also for the suggestions.
NUTTZ
P.S. Anyone know where I can buy a MoBo with a chipset other than VIA and has AGP and 1 ISA slot? Of course it would have to hold a CPU at least a 1 gig.
Originally posted by Skuzzy
What he is suggesting is a bit of a hack. I do not suggest those types of things, as there are normally side effects to them.
No offense 1kon.
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I think NUTTZ has a bigger dongle than AWMac does and that AWMac has dongle envy.
Just saying....
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
What he is suggesting is a bit of a hack. I do not suggest those types of things, as there are normally side effects to them.
No offense 1kon.
When under the gun one is forced to be creative when salesmen make promises ""sure it can do that"
Or beware of salesmen with forked tongue...
A better option is to have the SW company dload the Dongle SDK and repackage it for their customers with the USB dongle drivers and parrallel drivers, then user could move to these new ne legacy MB's without any bumps..
Ikon