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Title: Ki84
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 06, 2004, 03:49:39 PM
w00t
Title: Ki84
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 03:50:55 PM
Its so pretty... :D
Title: Brewster Buffalo
Post by: DipStick on August 06, 2004, 03:51:41 PM
w00t
Title: Re: Brewster Buffalo
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 03:51:58 PM
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Originally posted by DipStick
w00t

psst, news forum
Title: Ki84
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 03:54:03 PM
Very, very nice looking NATEDOG.

I like the increased details, like the wheelwells that are not just skinned on.

It is gorgeous.

I eagerly look forward to killing La-7s in it.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Sixpence on August 06, 2004, 03:55:16 PM
Now the big question, will it be perked?
Title: Ki84
Post by: Estes on August 06, 2004, 03:56:31 PM
I would hope so.
Title: Ki84
Post by: ra on August 06, 2004, 03:57:26 PM
It's overmodeled, and only dweebs fly it!
Title: Ki84
Post by: 327thBS on August 06, 2004, 03:59:36 PM
awesome ..great work natedogg! <>!:aok
Title: Ki84
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 03:59:42 PM
Control cables as well, very nice indeed. :)
Title: Ki84
Post by: oboe on August 06, 2004, 03:59:49 PM
Honestly, its a beauty.    Wasn't really expecting the Hayate anytime soon.   Thank you NateDog and Pyro!
Title: Ki84
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 06, 2004, 03:59:51 PM
then i will be the first dweeb:D
Title: Ki84
Post by: mars01 on August 06, 2004, 04:06:25 PM
NICE!!!!!   I can hear the cries already -

Beet1e "And all you fly is the uber KI84, WHAAAAAAAAAA"

LOL

Nice work Nate.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 04:08:38 PM
I doubt it will be perked.  If it is perked it'll be cheap and I can fly lots of them.


One of the big reasons I was so looking forward to this fighter is because it is one of the few aircraft left that might alter the combat dynamic of the MA.


The USN CT guys should like it because it should make the F4U usable in late war setups.

We'll see the Ki-84-I-Ko vs F4U-1D in the CT soon after 2.01 is released I bet.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Pongo on August 06, 2004, 04:15:36 PM
Great work Nate! Shows of AH2 nicely.
Title: Ki84
Post by: SunKing on August 06, 2004, 04:20:26 PM
. answered my question..
Title: Ki84
Post by: Sikboy on August 06, 2004, 04:20:37 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
I doubt it will be perked.  If it is perked it'll be cheap and I can fly lots of them.
 


I figure it'll all come down to modeling. There's such a wide range of data on the Frank, if they modeled the highest performance, I could see a small perking. But if they model the low side, then I don't see it as much more of a threat than the N1k2... but until the plane is modeled and tested we'll never know.

-Sik
Title: Ki84
Post by: JB73 on August 06, 2004, 04:22:55 PM
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Originally posted by SunKing
for us noobs to Japanese planes. Is this a contender to the late war runners or more early war goodness?
from what i have read on this board:



it is the second comming.



supposed to make la7 look like sissy plane.



personally i know nothing of it.


BTW <> HTC crew TY for the shots, keep up the great work!!!!!
Title: Ki84
Post by: Reschke on August 06, 2004, 04:23:56 PM
Saw this and the other big airplane that Superfly is working on on Wednesday morning and both are outstanding works. Nate even showed me the detail in the cockpit that he is able to put into the plane. When finished its going to be amazing. Great fit for the planeset and great work by Natedog.
Title: Ki84
Post by: slimm50 on August 06, 2004, 04:25:03 PM
I don't see it. Where is it??:(
Title: Ki84
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 04:26:22 PM
NATEDOG or Pyro,

The Ki-84 will follow the AH2 specs with no mirroring on the skin and no hard coded details, correct?

I can see a few skins being done for this aircraft by Japanese players once it is released.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Reschke on August 06, 2004, 04:28:50 PM
Correct Karnak; at least that is what Natedog and Superfly both mentioned when I was there the other day. The new aircraft (Ki-84 and bomber in the works) will both be built to the new specifications and from outside appearances will have awesome detail.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Kweassa on August 06, 2004, 04:33:41 PM
Whatever data it uses, there's no justification in perking a Ki-84 when a plane like La-7 or a P-51D is free.

ps) but then again.. there's no justification in a Spit14 being perked so high either..
Title: Ki84
Post by: SunKing on August 06, 2004, 04:34:51 PM
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Originally posted by Reschke
Correct Karnak; at least that is what Natedog and Superfly both mentioned when I was there the other day. The new aircraft (Ki-84 and bomber in the works) will both be built to the new specifications and from outside appearances will have awesome detail.


has the "bomber" name been released to the forum yet?
Title: Ki84
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 04:34:54 PM
Reschke,

Thanks.  I thought it was so, but I wanted to be sure.  I'll bet there are some skins done for it pretty quick after release due to the fact that a lot of talented Japanese players really wanted it and because skin makers will know that Ki-84 skins will last.

One thing that has occured to me is that people who like eye candy are going to be more inclined to use the Ki-84 simply because it'll look so much better up close than things like the La-7.  The performance of the Ki-84 may also make it popular in the MA.  Coupled, I can see the Ki-84 being in the top 4 for quite some time.


Kweassa,

Time to update your "New Perk Agenda";)


SunKing,

No, it hasn't.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Morpheus on August 06, 2004, 04:40:58 PM
Im not much for japanese planes but this one looks about as badass as one gets!

wtfg Natedog!!!
Title: Ki84
Post by: Dux on August 06, 2004, 04:46:45 PM
Nice. :)
Title: Ki84
Post by: Hajo on August 06, 2004, 04:57:54 PM
Numbers on Ki-841 to 1c

Engine: 1900hp Nakajima Homare Ha-45 Model 11 18 cyl. radial

Weights:  Empty 5,864lb (2680kg)

Performance: Maximum speed 388 mph (624k/h)  initial climb 3600
feet/min service ceiling 34,450 ft.  Range on internal fuel 1.025 miles with 98 gal. drop tanks 1815 miles.

Armament: (1a) 2X20mm Ho-5 in wings 150 rds per gun
                          2X12.7mm Type 103 in fuslelage 350 rds.

                   (1b) 4X20mm each with 150 rds 2 in wings 2 in
                            fuselage.

                   (1c) 2X20mm in fuselage and 2X30mm Ho-105
                            cannon in wings (all operational models)

Source: German, Italian and Japanese Fighters of World War II

Author:  Bill Gunston  Published by Arco Publishing Inc. NY
Title: Ki84
Post by: Reschke on August 06, 2004, 05:16:41 PM
Also Natedog and Superfly are getting the basics down for revamping the existing planes to AH2 standards. This one from Natedog and the one from Superfly along with the vehicle (supposedly a tank) are going to be the first ones using the new standards for modeling which will allow us to make some great skins.

As for the bomber in development it hasn't been released but it is the (censured for NonDisclosure Agreement) and I hope you guys like it since it many of you have been clamoring for big bombs to go with it.
Title: Ki84
Post by: simshell on August 06, 2004, 05:56:05 PM
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Originally posted by Reschke
Also Natedog and Superfly are getting the basics down for revamping the existing planes to AH2 standards. This one from Natedog and the one from Superfly along with the vehicle (supposedly a tank) are going to be the first ones using the new standards for modeling which will allow us to make some great skins.

As for the bomber in development it hasn't been released but it is the (censured for NonDisclosure Agreement) and I hope you guys like it since it many of you have been clamoring for big bombs to go with it.



B29?
Title: Ki84
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 05:59:21 PM
Cant be a B-29, they didnt have any Boulton Paul turrets.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Pongo on August 06, 2004, 06:00:36 PM
(http://members.cox.net/us.fighters/heavy.jpg)
Title: Ki84
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 06, 2004, 06:13:20 PM
halifax.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Pongo on August 06, 2004, 06:17:39 PM
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Originally posted by United
Control cables as well, very nice indeed. :)


Are you refering to the radio wires or did I miss something?
Title: Ki84
Post by: Ozark on August 06, 2004, 06:28:50 PM
Holy Cow NATEDOG!!

That is SWEET!! Waited a long time to fly my old ride in Aces High.

Thank you!! :)
Title: Ki84
Post by: United on August 06, 2004, 06:34:41 PM
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Originally posted by Pongo
Are you refering to the radio wires or did I miss something?

Yes, I misinterpreted them and called them control cables because I couldnt think of the right name for them... :lol
Title: Ki84
Post by: 2bighorn on August 06, 2004, 06:35:30 PM
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
halifax.
Liberators had them too, my bet is on b-24
Title: Ki84
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 06, 2004, 06:37:58 PM
to many american planes as it is.  i really wanna see a german bomber.
Title: Ki84
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 06, 2004, 06:41:39 PM
mmmmm he111
Title: Ki84
Post by: ra on August 06, 2004, 07:37:21 PM
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Coupled, I can see the Ki-84 being in the top 4 for quite some time.

I'd guess the Ki-84 will be in the top 4 for 1 tour.  It seems like a C.205 with better range and a better 6 view.   It's good compared to the A6M5 and the Ki-61, but it's not good enough to become a dweeb plane.

ra
Title: Ki84
Post by: Karnak on August 06, 2004, 07:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by ra
I'd guess the Ki-84 will be in the top 4 for 1 tour.  It seems like a C.205 with better range and a better 6 view.   It's good compared to the A6M5 and the Ki-61, but it's not good enough to become a dweeb plane.

ra


I think it would slaughter C.205s if it is modeled at all like I think it will be.  Much faster on the deck than the C.205 and turns better.
Title: Ki84
Post by: nopoop on August 06, 2004, 07:51:13 PM
BEEEEEUTIFUL SKIN !!!
Title: Ki84
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 06, 2004, 08:27:26 PM
A while back on the Beta board I made a suggestion to the skinners to make skins that were.. less then perfect looking.
Skins that showed the wear and tear of war.

THIS is what I was talking about.
Dont get me wrong. You guys that can do skinning do some really rightous work. I only wish I was able to do that
The only downside is theysometimes look too good. That is too perfect

WONDERFUL job Nate.
You got what I ment when I said
"the perfection is in the imperfection"

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/natedog/ki841.jpg)
Title: Ki84
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 06, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
from what i have read on this board:

supposed to make la7 look like sissy plane.



BTW <> HTC crew TY for the shots, keep up the great work!!!!!


Heh,
I've flown the La7.
La7 is already a sissy plane
Too easy.
Thats why I dont fly it much

And I agree. La7 should be perked.
If not then the F4u-1c should be unperked
Title: Ki84
Post by: SirLoin on August 06, 2004, 08:53:15 PM
So the Ki-84 was that flying PT boat HiTech was shootin everyone down in?..lol!:D
Title: Ki84
Post by: Reschke on August 06, 2004, 09:46:03 PM
You never know simshell.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Furball on August 07, 2004, 05:14:12 AM
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Originally posted by Reschke

As for the bomber in development it hasn't been released but it is the (censured for NonDisclosure Agreement) and I hope you guys like it since it many of you have been clamoring for big bombs to go with it.


Lancaster B.I Special, with Tallboy 12k and 22k grand slam bombs...

But im pretty sure its not :(

(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/aboriginal/tirpitz.jpg)
Title: Ki84
Post by: TBolt A-10 on August 07, 2004, 05:35:02 AM
B-29.  It's huge!  :eek: :aok
Title: Ki84
Post by: Greebo on August 07, 2004, 01:51:28 PM
A work of art Nate, really beautiful.
Title: Ki84
Post by: Stang on August 07, 2004, 01:59:12 PM
BWahahahaah!!!! The La7's demise is here!!! Fight fire with fire!! La7's shall perish!!! WTFG nate!
Title: Ki84
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 07, 2004, 03:47:18 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
BWahahahaah!!!! The La7's demise is here!!! Fight fire with fire!! La7's shall perish!!! WTFG nate!
look at an other thread.  it has already been decided that lhey crowd will say with it.  ok cherry picker?:D
Title: Ki84
Post by: beet1e on August 07, 2004, 07:53:46 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
NICE!!!!!   I can hear the cries already -

Beet1e "And all you fly is the uber KI84, WHAAAAAAAAAA"
ROFL!   What this game needs is not a new plane type, but a new gameplay model. I know that Mars would agree with me. :)
Title: Ki84
Post by: jay1988 on August 07, 2004, 08:09:03 PM
I thought the planes before looked good, but once they remodel the planes I'm going to have a blast.

7 more days till i'm on Aces High:)