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Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Morpheus on August 07, 2004, 12:01:58 PM
Just curious. Does anyone here have the Cooler Master Aquagate water cooling system?

I am looking to compare temps both at idle and under load.
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Kev367th on August 08, 2004, 11:55:09 AM
Not that one but used the Aquarius 3 on my old (LOL) 3000XP system. Used to get 37 idle up to 45 on load.
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: yb11 on August 08, 2004, 03:00:43 PM
i have a swifteck water cool system 38 on idle 45 to 48 on hard load never has got to 50 with the water system what temps you gitin MoRphEuS ?
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Morpheus on August 08, 2004, 10:13:36 PM
About the same YB.

Over clocked I get to about 46-47. I can adjust the fan speeds on my radiator so basicly the faster I spin the fan the cooler the CPU temps. Spinning full speed at 5000 RPM I can keep it down to 38-40 under full load. The only problem with that is with an intake fan the noise is REDICULOUS! It's like a jet engine next to my ear so I keep the speeds to around 4k or 3.5k. Which keeps my system around 45C.

In regards to the flow of your system. What's that like? I've seen better flow from other cooling systems than the one I've got but but this one is seeming to work flawlessly. Unfortunetly Cooler Master has yet to release the flow data on this pump with is all mounted internaly within the unit along with the water tank, the radiator, fans (intake & Exhaust) and a wonderful little LED readout providing coolant temp, CPU temps and fan speeds amongst other things. All of which sits in 2 5.25" drive bays in the case. Looks cool too. :)
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Post by: flakbait on August 10, 2004, 04:04:21 PM
Morph, you might give the Corsair HydroCool 200EX a shot. It's $200 at NewEgg and comes with all the parts you'll need to install the thing. A friend of mine has one and the noise is minimal. Unless you stick the thing on turbo mode you can't hear it. It does have auto-shutdown protection in case your CPU gets way too hot, and the pump is automatic. If your temp climbs over 50 it'll kick in turbo mode, and should that climb another 5C it'll shut your system off. I'm thinking about one for my new rig I'm in the process of building. It's either that or a Thermaltake Volcano 12, which sounds like a Pratt & Whitney with one cylinder out.



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Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: AWMac on August 10, 2004, 07:30:13 PM
Puters in the Shower or Pool is NOT a good idea....

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Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Justanothergeek on August 10, 2004, 07:59:12 PM
I have the Corsair Hydrocool - earlier version - and it works great. It allowed me to overclock my 2.4 GHz Athlon to 3.2 GHz and it's showing 31.5 ºC right now. That is with a 77 ºF inside temperature (it's summer here in the desert, you know). When it isn't this warm, the temperature is usually in the high 20's.

Also the temperature trip points for auto kicking into "turbo" mode and for system shutdown are adjustable.

Only other point to make is that Tom's Hardware says that computer cases apparently miss the extra air circulation inside that you get with a regular CPU fan - in spite of not dumping the CPU's 80 watts or so into the case. They advise adding another fan to stir up air in the case no matter which water cooling system you get.

But I really have to recommend water cooling. Yeah, there is extra cost, but it isn't that terrible. And as far as the Hyrocool system goes, I was impressed with the overall quality though there was one issue I found when I opened the external unit up to look at the guts - there was a part of the internal tubing that had a kink in it because it was bent too tight. All I did was put some wire ties around that to force it back to round and all is good. I don't know if they eased off on that bend, or better - added an elbow, to the new units. Something to check though - regardless of manufacturer or model.

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Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: XtrmeJ on August 11, 2004, 12:33:25 AM
There a way to check puter temp?
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Justanothergeek on August 11, 2004, 07:28:18 AM
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There a way to check puter temp?



There are generally multiple ways. Most motherboards have at least one temperature sensor dedicated to monitoring the CPU temperature. I'm pretty sure the Intel CPUs have on-board temperature monitoring as well. The new Athlons may too. But for all of these, the motherboard BIOS probably shows you the status with a live display when in the BIOS, and there is software that the motherboard manufacturers supply that allows you to check the temperatures in Windows - generally with a little display in the system tray as well as a full-up display that shows trending.

But the Hydrocool, and I'm sure the other water coolers too, have their own temperature monitoring as well that also keep track of the CPU temps. On the Hydrocool, the measurement is more indirect as the sensor is on the water cooling plate for the CPU but not in direct contact with the CPU. It's actually on the top side of the plate. Not a big deal though as the cooling power is pretty good.

Actually, I need to compare the two temperatures - reported by the motherboard and reported by Hydrocool. Will do that some time and report back if people are interested.
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Post by: Edbert on August 11, 2004, 07:59:02 AM
Does all of the software/firmware for these auto-adjusting systems run independently from the MB/CPU/OS? Last thing I want for gaming is some little bot running in the system tray. For $200 you'd think it was self contained logic.
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Post by: FOGOLD on August 11, 2004, 05:13:17 PM
Watercooling is insane. It costs more than buying a faster mobo/cpu!:rolleyes:

And it will leak and BLOW YOU ALL TO HELL hhah  hah hah!
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: SunKing on August 11, 2004, 07:33:55 PM
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Originally posted by XtrmeJ
There a way to check puter temp?



Motherboard Monitor (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/)
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2004, 02:37:50 PM
Water cooling insane? Naw!
Not as expensive as you think, got an Aquarius 2 for $119, and no it doesn't leak.
The way things are going with CPU temps you may see liquid cooling becomes the norm.
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Morpheus on August 15, 2004, 05:53:52 PM
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Originally posted by FOGOLD
Watercooling is insane. It costs more than buying a faster mobo/cpu!:rolleyes:

And it will leak and BLOW YOU ALL TO HELL hhah  hah hah!


You have no idea what you are talking about.
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: Overlag on August 16, 2004, 10:34:30 AM
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Originally posted by FOGOLD
Watercooling is insane. It costs more than buying a faster mobo/cpu!:rolleyes:

And it will leak and BLOW YOU ALL TO HELL hhah  hah hah!


whatever :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

watercooling allows higher overclocks
watercooling allows quieter pcs.
watercooling is just as safe as a heatsink and fan.

saying that, ive not had watercooling for a while, i had watercooling on my XP systems, that allowed 500-1000mhz overclocks, but right now i have an A64 which doesnt need extreme cooling because most A64 motherboards dont allow overclocking....
Title: H2O cooling...
Post by: icemaw on August 16, 2004, 03:38:30 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Puters in the Shower or Pool is NOT a good idea....

Been there, Done That...  Hair is growing back... slowly



Mac have you solved your puter problem yet? I justed upgraded and I have a working mobo its a ecs board with a amd 2000 on it.