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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on August 09, 2004, 01:49:39 PM
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
SO DONT TRY TO SHUT ME UP ABOUT KERRY YOU NAZI BASTARDS!
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In.
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Anyone that thinks GH should serve his country instead of attacking the service of those who did is no a nazi.
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America is a free country Pongo... Your personal anger at me for that silly joke or our meaningless political disagreements wont change that... I care far less about whether Keery or Bush becomes president compared to how I'm sad becaused it has caused a rift between us...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
America is a free country Pongo...
the board IS NOT america. on this board you have NO rights. only the responsibility to post withing the rules. wich means were as much in the right to tell you to stfu as you are to keep on talking.l
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Originally posted by vorticon
the board IS NOT america. on this board you have NO rights. only the responsibility to post withing the rules. wich means were as much in the right to tell you to stfu as you are to keep on talking.l
Ok.. But what does that have to do with the topic in discussion...
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im not sure.,..i just wanted to say that
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Ok.. But what does that have to do with the topic in discussion...
Originally posted by vorticon
im not sure.,..i just wanted to say that
You've just summed up the spirit of the AH BBS experience.
:D
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Ok - time for a reality check...
(http://www.flagfocus.info/worldflags-large/flag-Ger-Swastika-1935-45.gif)
Comparing American politicians to Nazi's is about as irresponsible as you can get.
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I applaude the fact that my opinion swings so much weight with you that you think it merits an amendment.
About time you came around Grun.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Ok - time for a reality check...
(http://www.flagfocus.info/worldflags-large/flag-Ger-Swastika-1935-45.gif)
Comparing American politicians to Nazi's is about as irresponsible as you can get.
Kerry isnt a nazi. He's a commie. :)
But his supporters in the "Sick and Tired" thread have some fascinatingly fascist opinions about public discourse.
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Neofascist Kerry Kampf.
The NKK.
I love it.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Neofascist Kerry Kampf.
The NKK.
I love it.
It works out wonderfully! :)
Funked can you believe this sudden militaristic turn of our friends on the left? Amazing stuff!
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Grun, when you hear a knock on your door - it is only the NKK SS division. Do not make a fuss, and go with them quietly. They treat you nice and feed you cookies.
They gave me a free lobotamy.
-SW
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Originally posted by Pongo
Anyone that thinks GH should serve his country instead of attacking the service of those who did is no a nazi.
Since when is military service a requirment to enjoy civil liberties?
I served....does that mean I can just say what I want when I want about whatever I want reguardless of the consequences?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Since when is military service a requirment to enjoy civil liberties?
I served....does that mean I can just say what I want when I want about whatever I want reguardless of the consequences?
Not if your lying, and you cannot talk about classified stuff i guess.
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Originally posted by Maniac
Not if your lying, and you cannot talk about classified stuff i guess.
A lot of Kerry's peers from Vietnam believe he is lying about his service.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
A lot of Kerry's peers from Vietnam believe he is lying about his service.
Thats fine.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I served....does that mean I can just say what I want when I want about whatever I want reguardless of the consequences?
No, it means you should accept your party's nomination for President. You're hereby fully qualified. :D
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
America is a free country Pongo... Your personal anger at me for that silly joke or our meaningless political disagreements wont change that... I care far less about whether Keery or Bush becomes president compared to how I'm sad becaused it has caused a rift between us...
I would be disgusted with a man who screams so loud that his country is in danger and yet wants to let others die to stop it no matter how much he agreed with me. As to you telling me I wanted to suck off John Kerry. You didnt seem interested in saying anything like that to me face to face when you had the chance. So I will chock that up to your well developed scense of self preservation, maybe over developed, as your not interested in fighting the the evil forces that are threatening your country. yet I am sure you feel well justified in critisising the efforts of those who do.
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Grun, take a two or three day break from the board. Go get laid. You are going to go freaking insane. Seriously, you are getting way to wound up.
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Originally posted by VOR
No, it means you should accept your party's nomination for President. You're hereby fully qualified. :D
whoo hoooo
as POTUS I promise to legalize the following:
Prostitution (I think we should get govt subsidised vouchers for thos as well)
Marjuana
Full auto Machine Guns
stronger beer than 4% without having to call it malt liqur
That is my platform.....its actually longer than kerry's I think
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Hmm..broads, guns, dope, booze...sounds like a brief history of the life of Sean Penn. You sure you're a republican? :lol
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Funny Pongo I dont remember you being so agrresive either.. Heck if I remember correctly we got along great, and there was still alll the same political differences and history of BBS banter then too... Maybe its just the BBS...
What I dont understand is why you took that joke so seriously, it really seemed to hurt you. Do you really think I meant that literally?
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...you better be getting a blowjob while you post.
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Originally posted by VOR
Hmm..broads, guns, dope, booze...sounds like a brief history of the life of Sean Penn. You sure you're a republican? :lol
Its called bait and switch
Dope = the youth vote
Guns = The "laz group vote"
Broads.....well I make up for pissing off all the woman in this world w/ my stunning good looks and charming personality.
I'd say I got this election in the bag
All i have to do is federally recognize Jesus and I have the religious vote.....that = landslide
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Originally posted by Thrawn
...you better be getting a blowjob while you post.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Thrawn's wife. :)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Thrawn's wife. :)
:p
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Originally posted by Thrawn
:p
Thats not considered sexual relations, is it?
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Originally posted by rpm371
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lol rpm, great stuff:D
ahh... my analog holiday has been just what the doc ordered :)
i now know how to walk away from the keyb
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Thrawn deserves a star!
And a link to This Land!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Thats not considered sexual relations, is it?
Silly me only realised the implications of that damn emoticon after the fact.
"Thrawn deserves a star!"
I deserve two!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Funny Pongo I dont remember you being so agrresive either.. Heck if I remember correctly we got along great, and there was still alll the same political differences and history of BBS banter then too... Maybe its just the BBS...
What I dont understand is why you took that joke so seriously, it really seemed to hurt you. Do you really think I meant that literally?
I wouldnt have put any thought at all into what you meant by it. It would just be reflex by that point.
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Well like I said Pongo your reaction was a surprise. You never got really upset by any of the other BBS political related banter and insults between the two of us before that joke so I was taken aback by your reaction. It's not something I'd say to a person because its obviously crude and offensive but in the context of the BBS it was intended as a joke directed towards your BBS posts and not you as the guy I met at the con.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well like I said Pongo your reaction was a surprise. You never got really upset by any of the other BBS political related banter and insults between the two of us before that joke so I was taken aback by your reaction. It's not something I'd say to a person because its obviously crude and offensive but in the context of the BBS it was intended as a joke directed towards your BBS posts and not you as the guy I met at the con.
Not to hijack your discussion, but I think you hit an important point. People on here say things to and about people that they would never say face to face. That might be a good rule to use before hitting submit. Would you say that in public to their face?
It would cool off a lot of the hostility. Just my 2 cents.
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GH. I dont know what it was. The way you wrote that really really pissed me off. If you had said just that to my face..It would have effected me the same way.
The internet is a good thing.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Anyone that thinks GH should serve his country instead of attacking the service of those who did is no a nazi.
We've both met Grunherz. He shares my firm committment to physical fitness. I don't think military service would be the most effective use of his talents. He is better off remaining in the private sector and using his intellect and ambition to generate the income and wealth that makes it possible for our military to operate at all. He can probably do a lot more for our nation in that manner than by enlisting.
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Ya let the chumps enlist. You and GH fight the good fight here on the BBS and bang the drums of war. Your hero W was of the same persuasion. Just a little better conected so he could actually play in jet planes while he dodged the real war.
Maybe GH can really ebrace the ethos of his master and admit that god asks him to eat so much.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
We've both met Grunherz. He shares my firm committment to physical fitness. I don't think military service would be the most effective use of his talents. He is better off remaining in the private sector and using his intellect and ambition to generate the income and wealth that makes it possible for our military to operate at all. He can probably do a lot more for our nation in that manner than by enlisting.
LoL!
So this is a Fat man excuse, not to serve his country. LoL! This was one sorry bellybutton excuse not to begin exercising!
You should elect a fat president then lol!
:lol
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It is my firm belife that all young men should serve atleast a year, but im just a leftist and not a republican sissy :)
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Originally posted by Pongo
You and GH fight the good fight here on the BBS and bang the drums of war. Your hero W was of the same persuasion.
Not sure what you are talking about. I'm not fond of W nor of his war in Iraq. But when the alternative is Kerry, and when foreigners attack my country and our leadership during a time of national emergency, I will stick up for my countrymen. But that's cool, build your little straw man action figures of me and GH. Good times.
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Originally posted by Maniac
I am teh swedish Thewobble.
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How long will this state of "national emergancy last".
Djust wondering. Untill the war on terrorism is won?
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Until dumb**** politicians stop sending our boys to do things that foreign boys should be doing for themselves. As long as our guys are engaged, anybody who talks **** about them will draw my full intardnet wrath. Especially foreigners. And especially especially foreigners who make repeated personal attacks on people I know personally. Go make me some meatballs or something, beeyotch.
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Until dumb**** politicians stop sending our boys to do things that foreign boys should be doing for themselves. As long as our guys are engaged, anybody who talks **** about them will draw my full intardnet wrath. Especially foreigners.
This part was good, and i can agree with this completly. But i havnt seen anyone here critizicing US troops.
And especially especially foreigners who make repeated personal attacks on people I know personally. Go make me some meatballs or something, beeyotch.
This one dont cut it. Making personal attacks on people you know dont put your country on "national emergency".
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
We've both met Grunherz. He shares my firm committment to physical fitness. I don't think military service would be the most effective use of his talents. He is better off remaining in the private sector and using his intellect and ambition to generate the income and wealth that makes it possible for our military to operate at all. He can probably do a lot more for our nation in that manner than by enlisting.
Grunherz does it again. LOL
I agree that you don't have to serve in the military to serve your country effectively. Indeed you can argue that you might better serve your country in many other ways than being in the military.
But it is always a bit rich to read someone constantly expounding a hawkish and militaristic viewpoint when apparently they are not prepared to take part when their country is involved in a war. Not even part time. Chickenhawk, I think is the insulting term appropriate here.
That's the problem here. Gruny can talk a good war but that's all.
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And whats the term for a politician who votes to send US troops to a war but votes against the weapons and funding they need to complete their mission...
Oh yea that would be John Kerry, I belive thats the insulting term appropriate here... Thats your great war hero senatore and presidential candidate right there...
Plus its a very convenient argument you guys put forawrd. Basically you are saying that one cannot be supportive of an agressive defense of America at this dangerous time unless you join the military yourself. How many people are in the military? Maybe some 1.5 million? Thats what 2% of the USA population? How very conveinient for you guys... So the veast majority of the country then must oppose our defense! Fantastic!!!
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Maniac, where did you do your military service and for how long?
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Maniac, where did you do your military service and for how long?
In the US. I was a Marine!
Semper Fi Hortlund! :lol
Seriously tough, i aint the one critizicing Kerrys service so i dont know what my merits have to do with it.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Maniac, where did you do your military service and for how long?
Please answer the question.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
And whats the term for a politician who votes to send US troops to a war but votes against the weapons and funding they need to complete their mission...
Oh yea that would be John Kerry, I belive thats the insulting term appropriate here... Thats your great war hero senatore and presidential candidate right there...
Plus its a very convenient argument you guys put forawrd. Basically you are saying that one cannot be supportive of an agressive defense of America at this dangerous time unless you join the military yourself. How many people are in the military? Maybe some 1.5 million? Thats what 2% of the USA population? How very conveinient for you guys... So the veast majority of the country then must oppose our defense! Fantastic!!!
No one is saying that except you. It's just slightly odd that someone with your interest in and knowledge of military matters and obvious patriotism not to mention strenous views on the defence of the United States has no apparent or stated interest in putting that to the test. That's your right of course but odd nonetheless.
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You arent saying but your words imply it.
As for the military I considred joining at one point, the purpose, sacrifice, teamwork and discipline applealed to me at a time when I needed such elements in my life. But I made the decison to go back to school because it was the best way I felt I could get my life back on track after making some bad decisions as a teenager. My father had gone far in this world by being the first in his family to go to college and I wanted to follow his example. It was the right decision. If you want to criticize or make fun of me for it to make u feel better, then go ahead - it just proves that ur an ass.
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For a guy who doesn't care to vote, you sure do let your panties get into a big twist over this stuff.
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Originally posted by SOB
For a guy who doesn't care to vote, you sure do let your panties get into a big twist over this stuff.
I'd love to vote. I dont vote because I'm disguisted by the politics. It's obvious that our votes dont matter.
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Grun, admit it. You've been Vet Pwn3d.
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Nonsense, nobody is going to tell me that I dont have the right to criticize politicans or examine the deeds of soldiers in a war. It's gonna be a sad day when "veterans" try take that right away from the gewneral population...
The only people who have anything to admit, and really admit to themselves are you guys on the left who have basically become facsist in your views on political discourse just to defend a man like Kerry with only an obviously controversial military record to cover up his 20 years on insignificance in the Senate.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Please answer the question.
Who are you voting for Hortlund?
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I see, playing sandlot soldier and watching John Wayne movies when you were a kid makes you qualified to remark on military tactics and policies. You can't even qualify for boot camp there General Grun. Now take your toy tanks and your Bush-Cheney action figures and go play...men are talking.
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Amazing post rpm, here's some extra straw for you..
Another fascist is born who belives that the actions of individuals the military are beyond civilian scrutiny...
Whats next for you rpm, shooting war protestors?
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What kind of weapon?
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Originally posted by rpm371
What kind of weapon?
Doesnt matter use whatever you "veteran" feels is right - they are just civilans anyway... Kill em' all!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Who are you voting for Hortlund?
KD or M.
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Wow what an amazing "twist" of events:
Librals standing behind a canidate with no other qualifications than 4 months combat duty in Veitnam that he's continually lied about.
Rebuplicans standing behind a wholey qualified president with very little military service.
Can you say....Ironic
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Yes this has been extremly ironic whit some of the most left wing liberal anti-war guys on this BBS basically turning into militarisatic fascists in their views on public discourse and democracy.
But heck when the best their 20 year senate veteran candidate can say about his political qualifications is his obviously controversial 4 month viertnam service I can understand why they dont want any scrutiny on that time. If that was tarnished, what other record could Kerry run on?
Funny thing is they are all jumping over me when I dont think I have really attacked kerry's service, even Maniac said so, the people attacking it are his fellow veterans - the men who served with him, some 200 of them even. But the neos cant attack members of the military can they now...
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You defend and support Bush, and attack Kerry, Grun - but you won't bother to vote...
Thats a lot of expended energy for nothing... especially when both of those guys suck ass. If there are enough people like you, voting for one write-in just may give us back our country.
-SW
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If he lives in Cali there is no point in voting now is there?
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I'm hoping that nobody votes. Ask yourself are Kerry and Bush really our 2 best candidates? If you think so then by all means go vote for one of them...
I'm not thrilled with Bush either his background or his performance or his stance on various issues. But I'm even less thrilled by Kerry. If its the choice between them I'd rather "support" Bush - but I certainly wont waste time voting.
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I hate to even admit SW is right, but he is ded sexy, so I will.
I know I'm doing the write-in thingy in November.
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Votes are votes, a state can be won by just one vote.
Of course, with Bush about to make illegals legal - it won't really matter because the ballots will be in espanol.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Votes are votes, a state can be won by just one vote.
Of course, with Bush about to make illegals legal - it won't really matter because the ballots will be in espanol.
-SW
The ballots are allready available in spanish...
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Just like the ****ing menu at McDonalds... damn it, wtf is an el grande mac?!
But, I meant only available in espanol.
-SW
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Wow SW youre becoming quite the right wing reactionary..
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Originally posted by Hortlund
If he lives in Cali there is no point in voting now is there?
Oh please expand on that one. Tell us all you know about "Cali".
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I never said deport their asses, but when the only way to order something is to point at a picture and go "Si" - it makes me furious.
Anyway, I don't subscribe myself to one side - I enjoy the middle of the road, I get a nice choice of issues to agree or disagree with.
-SW
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Oh no but you belive there will be no more voting ballots in english...
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Jokes.
-SW
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Oh please expand on that one. Tell us all you know about "Cali".
Its polling at > 10 points Kerry.
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John Kerry saw a war he didnt believe in and went and fought in it anyway and came back and protested it. Him protesting it is no crime. Anyone that sees it as a crime that he protested the war knows nothing about the Vietnam war.
GH sees a war he agrees with and refuses to aid his country in putting his life on the line, yet feels free to critisise everything about John Kerrys service. Must you have served your country to critisise the army? Or the military decisions of a presidential hopeful? No. But to critisise a mans decision to fight for his country and the fact of his service and the sacrifices he made you better at least be man enought to have contributed and given of your life to the cause of your adopted and beloved country.
All you look like is a jibbering little coward that knows he should do better for his country. And a man that has repeatedly lied on these boards about what kind of threat the US was under.
4 months is not long enough to get any good bearing on what Kerrys service meant to his potential presidency, But its enought to contrast him with his oposition.
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Show me these posts where I criticize everythiung about Kerry's service. Every post I wrote is documented here on the BBS, go find them.
Really show me. Go ahead Pongo...
However I will not stand anyone, no matter who they are, telling me that I cannot criticize a politican or an individual soldiers actiuons in a war. Thats downright fascism and its wrong.
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Pongo Kerry lied about it too, didnt he now... Or does service absolve him of lying as well as scrutiny?
shreck this...
Whats this really about Pongo? Lately your posts have been pretty nutz, and not just the ones dirtected at me. Others have noticed this as well. Whats going on man? I know you are good guy, whats up Pongo?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Kerry isnt a nazi. He's a commie. :)
But his supporters in the "Sick and Tired" thread have some fascinatingly fascist opinions about public discourse.
Geez make up your mind - he's either a Nazi or a Commie - he can't be both - for the love of God stop FLIP FLOPPING!!!!!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Who are you voting for Hortlund?
Some Swedish guy I'm guessing?
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Geez make up your mind - he's either a Nazi or a Commie - he can't be both - for the love of God stop FLIP FLOPPING!!!!!
Kerry is a commie. :) But his supportsers are fascists, or at least they have come to acting like fascists when it comes to the idea of scrutinizing Kerry's controversial 4 months of service in swits. Its understandible because he has nothing else to run on, his 20 years in the senate did not produce a record of any significance.
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Originally posted by Pongo
I'm incapable of making an intelligent argument so I will just keep making personal attacks over and over and over. I will win the argument by causing my opponent to quit in disgust at my grade-school level tactics and intellect.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Theres nothing better in the morning than a hot steaming cup of man.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Marijuana has destroyed my brain.
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LOL, SW Wins!
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Originally posted by SOB
I love nose.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
I'm better than you, the only thing I've ever smoked is pole.
-SW
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lol