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Title: The Matrix
Post by: NUKE on August 09, 2004, 11:17:27 PM
Okay, watching this movie again, I'd say it's one of the most entertaining and creative movies of all time.

The only thing that I question: why would machines allow the humans plugged into the matrix  have a "reality" at all? Why not just make them be "thoughtless" or in a coma?

The concept of the movie was pretty impressive to me....very high on the "cool" factor.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 09, 2004, 11:40:18 PM
please put down the pipe nuke.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Octavius on August 10, 2004, 12:04:28 AM
Pick up the pipe Skull.

Nuke I thought the same thing.  They leave themselves without total control.  It's almost as if the machines wanted an anomaly, neo, to occur.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 10, 2004, 12:07:49 AM
Ok, no... he's right - put the pipe down - both of you.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: ra on August 10, 2004, 12:12:01 AM
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The only thing that I question: why would machines allow the humans plugged into the matrix have a "reality" at all?

Yeah, that part was a little far-fetched.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 10, 2004, 12:20:48 AM
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Originally posted by ra
Yeah, that part was a little far-fetched.


Sarcastic answer:  A blank screen would have made for a ****ty movie.

Pre-Marine Corp pothead answer:  Dude... the alternate reality of the Matrix is in place because the human mind cant be contained... I mean, its like... like, like you know youre in the Matrix, but you dont, so you dont fight it, cause youre happy.  I mean, everything tastes like chicken. Besides, once you see youre risidual self image and realize you have no hair and a bunch of **** sticking out of you you'd go back to sleep anyway.  Its heavy, man.  Heavy.  ...Im hungry, lets get a taco.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: SaburoS on August 10, 2004, 12:24:57 AM
It was a cool movie, but the concept is flawed. But we are talking entertainment here. I enjoyed the movie.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Gunslinger on August 10, 2004, 12:52:45 AM
I thaught the ending sucked.  To much build up for bad finish.  

When neo made the machines die outside the matrix that's when it just started getting hoaky to me.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Nilsen on August 10, 2004, 01:01:18 AM
Discussing the reality factor in a sci-fi?
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Maniac on August 10, 2004, 03:01:26 AM
First one was the best.

Second one sucked.

The third one sucked even harder.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 10, 2004, 03:14:47 AM
It's basically cyberpunk watered down for a semiliterate audience.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: CyranoAH on August 10, 2004, 04:41:32 AM
As the Oracle would say:

What you think about it is irrelevant, and if you don't know why, then I can't tell you.

Have a cookie.

Daniel
Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: AKcurly on August 10, 2004, 06:31:00 AM
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Originally posted by NUKE
Okay, watching this movie again, I'd say it's one of the most entertaining and creative movies of all time.

The only thing that I question: why would machines allow the humans plugged into the matrix  have a "reality" at all? Why not just make them be "thoughtless" or in a coma?

The concept of the movie was pretty impressive to me....very high on the "cool" factor.


Fun movie, Nuke.  The answer to your question is this:  Had book been written so that humans had no reality, there would have been no movie to make. :)

curly
Title: The Matrix
Post by: fd ski on August 10, 2004, 06:37:25 AM
Organs not used deteriorate.

If i'm not mistaken, brain sygnals carry an electrical current of sorts and stimulating brain would cause current to occur. No strimulation - deterioration of the body, loss of power.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: midnight Target on August 10, 2004, 07:37:40 AM
Back in 1975 I had a Philosophy 101 prof who began the 1st day of class with a thought experiment..

"How would you feel different than you do now, if your brain was in a vat somewhere and someone was just feeding it a simulation of your life?"

I think we was tokin big time too.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Bcnu on August 11, 2004, 10:50:28 AM
There, FD has the plausible answer (which is all that's needed in this context).  The machines have "a form of fusion" but somehow it's related to the brain turning out bio-electrical energy?  Well, no brain function, no fusion.

Either that or everyone strapped in looking at Nothing all day would go insane (bad signal, fusion no worky) or achieve mass Illumination, or both :D
Title: The Matrix
Post by: Sikboy on August 11, 2004, 11:07:13 AM
I liked it the first time it came out, when it was called "Tron"

:p

I thought the first one was a great popcorn movie, and the action was the most innovated that I'd seen in a while. But by the time the 2nd and third ones came out, EVERYONE had the "shift-time-kung-fu" in their work, and it had a hard time keeping up.

But I liked the twist in the second one, I thought that was better than anything I'd thought of. I haven't seen the third.

-Sik
Title: The Matrix
Post by: 214thCavalier on August 11, 2004, 01:59:11 PM
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I haven't seen the third.


Dont bother.

As others have said after the first that downhill gradient gets steeper and steeper.
Title: The Matrix
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 11, 2004, 02:25:39 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
First one was the best.

Second one sucked.

The third one sucked even harder.
you are right.you deserve a thrawn star.