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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RedTop on August 10, 2004, 06:21:24 PM
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Lemme preface this by saying this is NOT a bash. I'm a knight. I'm gonna stay knight unless squad votes sometime to move. Which I doubt.
I'm in a Fighter Squad. We fly mainly Spit V's. That is to say 99 percent of the time. I see the dissarray of things at times and see a formation of bombers going someplace all alone. Only to be gang banged before he gets there.
Why don't your BUFF types ASK for an ESCORT. Why do you constantly fly to only be popped before you get to a target. Now I know some of you are the GREAT BUFF TYPES that kill everything that gets near you , but wouldnt it be nice to at least have some type of help. Even if it is to draw some fighters away for a short period of time? I can tell you with out a doubt that the squad Im in would be willing with a small amout of notice , to escort your buffs to somplace. Even if it is to act as a decoy for ya.
Now if this is just a dumb run to nowhere then prolly not. But , if it is a legitamate run to help with a base capture , then we would like to help ya.
We don't fly buffs much at all. We aren't the best fighters in the game either. But We would like to try to help with being a lil more organised to maybe make the rooks work a lil harder resetting us.
So if you need an escort, at least ASK us. We maybe busy defending or capping or something. But we would help if we can.:aok
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Sorry to hijack so quickly and all but...
Are you going to the convention this year RT?
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Hiya Edbert..Im going to try to go for a day...Work is nuts..we're installing a new mainframe before the legislative session...so my plans are subject to change rahther quickly. Not to mention I am on call 24/7.:(
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hell i need all the help i can, cant hit a fricken thing in those turrets:lol
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What kinda mainframe???? What's your involvement? (I'm the lead sysprog at my site IBM Z800 Z/OS 1.4).
Originally posted by RedTop
Hiya Edbert..Im going to try to go for a day...Work is nuts..we're installing a new mainframe before the legislative session...so my plans are subject to change rahther quickly. Not to mention I am on call 24/7.:(
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Originally posted by Muddie
What kinda mainframe???? What's your involvement? (I'm the lead sysprog at my site IBM Z800 Z/OS 1.4).
If it's a goverment mainframe, its probably a reconditioned IBM 360 ... ;)
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Most of the time when i see a bomber and im heading to the same target in my fighter il escourt them without them even asking
or some times il ask if they want one iv never had a buff driver say no ever
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Originally posted by Muddie
What kinda mainframe???? What's your involvement? (I'm the lead sysprog at my site IBM Z800 Z/OS 1.4).
:lol My involvment will be basically IPL til you drop. Noo...I will be basically laying cables..IPL'ing...Im a Supervisor of a computer room. This is my 5th install. My part is grunt work and the programmers do all that technical stuff.
The new Mainframe will be a Z890 I think it is. MVS / JES3. We have about 300 servers running windows 2000 and NT...A HUGE LAN/WAN.
I am an over priced babysitter. BUT , its a job and I been here for 13 years. 7 more...and i can RETIRE.:aok
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Originally posted by simshell
Most of the time when i see a bomber and im heading to the same target in my fighter il escourt them without them even asking
or some times il ask if they want one iv never had a buff driver say no ever
Im the same way..what I guess Im getting at is...If BUFF drivers are upping and would like one..why not ask if anyone could?
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Nice machine, too bad about the JES3 though. What a wordy spooler. JES2 much easier to get along with.
You guys are gonna like the frame though.
We're a pretty small shop (3 sysprogs) so we get to get our hands into everything .
Originally posted by RedTop
:lol My involvment will be basically IPL til you drop. Noo...I will be basically laying cables..IPL'ing...Im a Supervisor of a computer room. This is my 5th install. My part is grunt work and the programmers do all that technical stuff.
The new Mainframe will be a Z890 I think it is. MVS / JES3. We have about 300 servers running windows 2000 and NT...A HUGE LAN/WAN.
I am an over priced babysitter. BUT , its a job and I been here for 13 years. 7 more...and i can RETIRE.:aok
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Originally posted by RedTop
:lol My involvment will be basically IPL til you drop. Noo...I will be basically laying cables..IPL'ing...Im a Supervisor of a computer room. This is my 5th install. My part is grunt work and the programmers do all that technical stuff.
The new Mainframe will be a Z890 I think it is. MVS / JES3. We have about 300 servers running windows 2000 and NT...A HUGE LAN/WAN.
I am an over priced babysitter. BUT , its a job and I been here for 13 years. 7 more...and i can RETIRE.:aok
Real men run the old iron (IBM 360/370 architecture) with tri-leads and chillers. Both would fill up the 1st floor of your house.
This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.
;)
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OMG...we had VM and MVS on a hugeeeeeeeeeee MF when I started here. like 3 chillers...Big old Boxes...
Now....its so automated...i get bored easy here..things are to smooth:lol
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I started with working on the 1401 main frame then moved to the ibm 360-30
Now working in teleprocessing any one running a 3745
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MVS ran on a 3090 when i first came to work here. VM was on a 3081. Profs? remember Profs?
We thought we were dashiznit when we got 1 server.
NOW...300 plus. Virual servers..HUGE amounts of DASD...More fiber optic cables than you can shake a stick at.
20 tape drives that use the new E Tapes. like 20 gig or something like that.
Use to have CTC and Control units...Those old Bus and Tag Cables...looked like a million paounds of spaghetti under the floor.
LOLOL...those were the days
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We run ES9000 with MVS/ESA. I remember the huge 4381's... We also had an Amdahl that took up the whole room. Even had its own chrome radiator...
I am trying to leave the government contracting business but no one is looking for a washed up mainframe system support specialist.
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I used to be the VM guy here (was the third site in the U.S. to install and run VM/XA SF). You just gotta love an operating system who's idea of graceful error recovery is 'I think I might have a problem, I'll just autoreboot'. And I ain't kidding about that either. It's fine for the VM guys, but really sucks for the production guests. Having said that, it was a nice operating system to work with and really nice for an academic envrionment. Just wasn't robust enough for what we needed.
Originally posted by SlapShot
Real men run the old iron (IBM 360/370 architecture) with tri-leads and chillers. Both would fill up the 1st floor of your house.
This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.
;)
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Oh btw, we prefer to be called Geeks. UberGeeks on a really good day, like putting up the latest Z/OS.
:aok
Originally posted by SlapShot
Real men run the old iron (IBM 360/370 architecture) with tri-leads and chillers. Both would fill up the 1st floor of your house.
This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.
;)
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and COLD COLD COLD machine rooms.
Now I can stand on the perforated panels for an hour at a time, no problemo.
Originally posted by RedTop
MVS ran on a 3090 when i first came to work here. VM was on a 3081. Profs? remember Profs?
We thought we were dashiznit when we got 1 server.
NOW...300 plus. Virual servers..HUGE amounts of DASD...More fiber optic cables than you can shake a stick at.
20 tape drives that use the new E Tapes. like 20 gig or something like that.
Use to have CTC and Control units...Those old Bus and Tag Cables...looked like a million paounds of spaghetti under the floor.
LOLOL...those were the days
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What's your involvement? The supply of us (Mainframe systems guys) is getting kinda thin, so we oughta be able to find you something somewhere.
Email me offline and I'll start asking around.
Originally posted by jamusta
We run ES9000 with MVS/ESA. I remember the huge 4381's... We also had an Amdahl that took up the whole room. Even had its own chrome radiator...
I am trying to leave the government contracting business but no one is looking for a washed up mainframe system support specialist.
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Originally posted by Muddie
and COLD COLD COLD machine rooms.
Now I can stand on the perforated panels for an hour at a time, no problemo.
Im in a 11000 square foot computer room...and IT AINT WARM. We have ABOUT 35 racks of servers and 6 AC units inside here...Its friggin cold. I am prolly the only guy in Texas that wears a sweatshirt in the MIDDLE OF SUMMER when its a 100 + outside.:lol
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
hell i need all the help i can, cant hit a fricken thing in those turrets:lol
All ya gotta do is ask. I'm alwas up for using a buff formation as bait...er...escorting my big friends... :D
I particularly like the P-51Ds and LgAy-7s who don't bother looking back when they attack bombers...those things are candy now with their ENY in the basement.
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Originally posted by Muddie
Oh btw, we prefer to be called Geeks. UberGeeks on a really good day, like putting up the latest Z/OS.
:aok
I've been annointed BOFH at my last three positions. A title I wear with pride. Even as a manager I still find time to fsck the /usr once in a while.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
This Zblahblah stuff is too UBER. Only dweebs run those types of mainframes and only NERDS run MVS ... VM/CMS is where its at ... interactive computing.
;)
Bastage. I've paid good money to therapists to forget all about CMS and you have to bring it up again.
VMS...THAT was a manly OS. Virtual processor reading from a virtual disk to load a virtual program and create a virtual process on a virtual machine. CIO comes in and wonders why the machine room is COMPLETELY EMPTY. Apparently he didn't get virtual computing.
We held a raffle when we pushed the last 11/780 off the loading dock. The winner got to do the final push. Three foot drop probably exceeded the maximum G rating for the chassis. Equipment room dropped 10 degrees for every one we shut off. I still have a few of the 14" platters on my wall, along with some 8" platters, 8" floppy disks (hard sector, of course) and various other storage media and implements. The slide rule really gets the new people now days, particularly when you tell them THAT is what we used to put people on the moon.
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Hijack successful ....
Redtop ... Bombers and attack craft are just magnets for the NME . follow one outta the barn and you'll get yer quota and you'll increase his survivability to the target . good fer him, good fer you , good for the Knights ... i don't know how many times i've lifted an A-20 with fighters all around , only to arrive alone trying to combine evasives with some sort of impromptu drop profile . 3-4 spit V's would be a welcome sight . i'll look for ya .
As fer the server discussion , colossus.net just shut the doors on their tech shop .. anyone need an extra hardware monkey ?
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