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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 68DevilM on August 11, 2004, 05:26:48 PM
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one player has a high performance gameing computer, rudder pedals, throtle control, the works, paid thousands for.
another player has a mid-range computer, and a twisty stick.
both have been playing the same amount of time, and both have the same experiance level.
the two meet up and battle in the sky.
who wins?
does the player with the better cpu/extra's have more of an advantage?
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Probably the player who feels good and is alert, exercises and eats well.:D
Les
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Originally posted by Leslie
Probably the player who feels good and is alert, exercises and eats well.:D
Les
So THAT'S why I die alot. :lol
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Not by me, that's for sure.:lol
Les
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I would have to say that the one with the better equipment wins.
As for CPU I know in AW when I upgraded from my P100 to my P500 I noticed an imediate improvement even though my style hadnt chaged.
As for the rest of the equipment I currently use an old TM Xfighter. Other then the obvious handling My stick controls my guns, my ord and my views.
Everything else, Rudders, throttle, Trim adjustment is done through the keyboard And lets face it I dontr have enough fingers to do everything I'd like to all at the same time.
so Im sure Im at a big disadvantage when I go up against someone who has all the fancy controls,
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anyone remember AHGOD (aka AGJV44)??
he flew on a carppy system with a twisty stick the whole time. saw him do it at the CON.
sometimes it doesnt matter what system you are on i guess that shows.
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Gosh I remember him...Dang he was good. One of my best higghlights (i think i have 3) was shooting him down one day on the Smurf map or whatever its called...He was a Tempestand me in a Spit IX...I felt like KING SHIZNIT...til he came back:lol
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you cant judge by equipment and 2 different players. Best way to tell is by using 1 way for a certain amount of time, switch and use the other long enough to get the hang of it and fight.
I've been playing about a year and a half now, use mouse, and can beat players that have been here since the beggining and use joystick. its not a matter of equipment, but pilot. Some learn faster than others. It all comes down to pilot
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'Ketchup' won a couple of AW con duel ladders, and all he used was a two button stick, with keyboard views and rudder.
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
one player has a high performance gameing computer, rudder pedals, throtle control, the works, paid thousands for.
another player has a mid-range computer, and a twisty stick.
both have been playing the same amount of time, and both have the same experiance level.
the two meet up and battle in the sky.
who wins?
does the player with the better cpu/extra's have more of an advantage?
i have a great system
i have a great stick (aparently so, i hate it myself)
i have loads of time
i suck.
:p
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I think what it really comes down to....who has their monitor on?
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Originally posted by Overlag
i have a great system
i have a great stick (aparently so, i hate it myself)
i have loads of time
i suck.
:p
yeah i suck too:p
its gotta be me then, got a better stick and i suck even worse
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i was kicking *** with a 333 p2 just a bit over 16 months ago... i forgot which ah version pretty much forced me to upgrade for better frame rates (was getting 35 to 10, depending).
still have same stick, ms ffb twisty... still kicking ***...
the biggest impact is framerates, makes for better gunnery and smoother tracking.
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Originally posted by Shane
i was kicking *** with a 333 p2 just a bit over 16 months ago... i forgot which ah version pretty much forced me to upgrade for better frame rates (was getting 35 to 10, depending).
still have same stick, ms ffb twisty... still kicking ***...
the biggest impact is framerates, makes for better gunnery and smoother tracking.
yes but you fly a la7.........
oops dont go there ;)
(i know your good really, but i cant miss a chance to hit on la7 flyers.......)
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as far as i'm concerned, i'm the *only* la7 flyer... the rest are just misguided FWeenies.
:p
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The computer doesnt matter provided the game runs well. If your computer is bad enough that the game is choppy you'll probably be at a disadvantage. Any working mid-range computer is capable of this.
If you can play the game smoothly at 1600x1200 resolution, it doesn't matter. (Wether running at 1600x1200 offers any advantage over running at 1024x768 can be debated though)
Expensive controllers don't make you more capable. It's just a matter of personal preference. The important thing is having a controller you're comfortable using.
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Originally posted by -MZ-
'Ketchup' won a couple of AW con duel ladders, and all he used was a two button stick, with keyboard views and rudder.
There was a guy named Sky01 that used to use a mouse in AW. One of the better sticks I've ran across in that game.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Shane
i was kicking *** with a 333 p2 just a bit over 16 months ago... i forgot which ah version pretty much forced me to upgrade for better frame rates (was getting 35 to 10, depending).
still have same stick, ms ffb twisty... still kicking ***...
the biggest impact is framerates, makes for better gunnery and smoother tracking.
But you use an aimbot.
ack-ack
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I'm playing on a laptop currently (my desktop needs fixing) and I'm definitely seeing a decrease in not only settings obviously, but also in more graphic stutters which ends up with an increased number of missed snapshots.
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For a very long time I played AH with a 333 MHZ system and did quite well when others were running faster systems. Then I upgraded to a 1.2 AMD and did just as well. I dont think system adv matters much with AH, at least ah1. I think I could turn there resolution down and still do fiarly well with an older system.
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The thing that is important for me is the control system. All the buttons etc... have to bet set correctly. It has to be a TM.
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That 333 mhz system was the same system I used to play Warbirds. I didnt upgrade to a 1.2 AMD till 2000.
;)
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my 333 lasted from '98 til '03 and is still puttering along just fine as a 2nd box.. 128mb ram, and the card i upgraded to play AH with (coming from AW3), an ati something or other bought in '01... one thing for sure, using an older system sure teaches you how to tweak the hell outta stuff... i've never overclocked, tho' and never will...
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Originally posted by Shane
using an older system sure teaches you how to tweak the hell outta stuff...
story of my life. Until I bought that AMD 64 :cool:
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I know a lot of very good people that just use the MS twisty sticks.
Best joystick out there.
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He who has paid HiTech more, of course;)
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Isn't this a bogus question?
You'd probably have a 50/50 split on engagements between the two ostensibly equal pilots.
Why? Simple answer - comparing different control setups assumes that the pilots have the same likes/dislikes in terms of comfort/stick resistance/throttle settings/etc.
Someone who has never used rudder pedals may find that they're anathema to how they fly and a twisty stick is better.
**** i gotta put the school books down. two big words in one sitting. JBA might find this post hard to understand. :D
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Actually no its a good question. The problem is that the difference is not that black & white.
I've been here since god made dirt ok.
I've had 2 new computers in that time.
The first 6 months rocks. Your fps are high, connect is silky smooth, its much easier to get on someones 6 & stay there till hes dead.
The next 6 months are also good, but there are some who have gotten faster than you.
No computer vs computer advantage, your both fast enough that it comes down to pilot.
1 year later, computers getting older.
Good time to reformat & reload. Cut out all the crap, make sure your booting clean. Half the arena is running slick new machines that are faster than you.
It gets harder & harder to keep up with whats happening in a multi con enviroment.
You find yourself flying cannon armed AC more because you don't need a 2 second burst to kill.
18 months
Computers getting obsolete, your frustrated with how you fly, can't seem to keep up. Start driving ground vehicles, goon, buffs more.
They just are not as dependant on speed.
Your counting down the months till you can afford to upgrade. (and counting the dollars available to do it too)
Wiishing just once you could afford something thats going to be so fast that you'll get 2 good years out of it instead of 1 + or 18 months, or whatever.
The last couple months your down in the slowest 10% of computers in AH.
You spend more time researching motherboards than flying.
You haunt the hardware & software forum 3 x a day.
Then the day finally comes, LIGHTING in a box, and your king of the world again.
For a bit anyway.
Seriously, it makes a difference, but nothing even close to the skill differences between pilots.
But it is the one thing that money can do to give the good pilot an edge.
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Originally posted by Adogg
**** i gotta put the school books down. two big words in one sitting. JBA might find this post hard to understand. :D
So long as you don't start imitating a certain self righteous poster who frequents the boards and seems to think he has to try to use as many fancy or obscure words in each single sentence as he possibly can. While impressing no one with them
You will do fine
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I used a mouse for a year and a half in AH1. Hell I didnt even have combat trim off. I guess its all what your comfortable with. Looking back now i dont see how I did it lol.
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I have an AthlonXP 1800+, 512mb of RAM and a GeForce Ti4600.
If I can swing it, I'm upgrading this year.
Aiming for a Athlon 64 3500 or 3800 939 socket (I'd like an Athlon 64 FX-53 but there is no way I can afford it), 1024mb of RAM and a GeForce 6800 of some sort.
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I wouldn't call it an advantage, more like enjoyability. Having the faster pc = better framrates and settings... hows that for Tongue Foo
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A large monitor with advanced graphics card makes a big difference.
A good stick with enough buttons or switches to manually trim makes a big difference.
Rudder pedals make a big difference.
Don't kid yourselves.
In a dogfight between similarly skilled and experienced players, the one who has more aircraft controls at hand will out manuveur the other. The equal player with less on hand controls has fewer options.
rthus
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It doesnt make any difference.
If the machine is enough to play the game it doesnt make any difference. its the man. but, the MS FF Twisty stick is one of the best joysticks ever made. Increadably accurate and predictable. Lots of the most dangerous guys in the game have used it for years. Too bad it went out of production.
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Originally posted by RT
A large monitor with advanced graphics card makes a big difference.
A good stick with enough buttons or switches to manually trim makes a big difference.
Rudder pedals make a big difference.
Don't kid yourselves.
In a dogfight between similarly skilled and experienced players, the one who has more aircraft controls at hand will out manuveur the other. The equal player with less on hand controls has fewer options.
rthus
sorry but it comes down to hand work i can trim out my plane for turn fighting in secs with my keyboard and then use my rudder with my 3 hand then zoom in out with my 4
1 hand does the joystick work other does the keyboard and my squad wonders how m i so fast on a keyboard:D
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i dont know how some of you guy play with just a mouse! when i first started i didnt have a stick so i was forced to use a mouse and it was a horrible experiance:(
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Originally posted by JB73
anyone remember AHGOD (aka AGJV44)??
he flew on a carppy system with a twisty stick the whole time. saw him do it at the CON.
sometimes it doesnt matter what system you are on i guess that shows.
Lazer is also pretty darn good and he flies with a mouse.