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Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Citabria on June 12, 2001, 07:45:00 PM
was criticized by Ripsnort on private channel for taking a bish cv far from the action because its port had been retaken by the knights.

he explained that he used his other account Geeman to overcome HTC's strat design.

turns out he sends his Geeman account to bishop side to find the CV then keeps his team the knights updated on the cv position while flying for knights as RIPSNORT.


is this not blatant cheating?
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: 2Late4U on June 12, 2001, 07:47:00 PM
Film it...mail it....enjoy it  ;)
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: air_guard on June 12, 2001, 08:03:00 PM
everytime i get accused for cheating i take that as a compliment and thats IT.

AG

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Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Hangtime on June 12, 2001, 08:12:00 PM
WHAT?? You mean the other side has infiltrated SPIES AMONGST US? (whotta surprise  :rolleyes: )

How... how... how... supurbly interesting.

Hey Rip.. is this the start of a new strat planning tool? Dammo.. I gotta get ME a second account. You devious sly bastard... hat's off ta yah boy, that's a PIP!

Hang

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Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Staga on June 12, 2001, 08:29:00 PM
Cit what you did was childish (And dweebish too).
Earlier today after when Bish reset map knights were wondering where are our another fleet.
I typed .move 41 and whooplaa I was in a cv's deck 30 miles out of map, East of Bish main-island.

Next time you guys should sail it about 250 miles farther Off-Map.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Yeager on June 12, 2001, 08:31:00 PM
Dual accounts have been around since day one.

Its just a game.

Yeager
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Post by: Thrawn on June 12, 2001, 08:47:00 PM
Sounds like cheating to me.  Not the first time he's done it.  He mentions doing it in a previous post.
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Post by: AKDejaVu on June 12, 2001, 08:48:00 PM
Yeah.. that's almost as bad as when they formed a giant formation of B-17s and flew them half way across the map unopposed almost the entire way just to sink the CV.  Just downright dispicable.

AKDejaVu
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Post by: 2Late4U on June 12, 2001, 09:38:00 PM
The point is quite simple.  You should not have multiple accounts used for the purposes of seeing information that is country specific.  While it may be impractical for HT to police this sort of dweebery, the offending party should be chastized publicly, and called what they are, a cheater.  I think this thread has achieved that.

Its not a matter of great import, its not somthing to get worked up over too much, but if you have any affection for AH, you will discourage cheating in all its forms.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: sax on June 12, 2001, 09:46:00 PM
Called playin the game.

If I could afford it I'd have 3 accounts,
just so I could take a shot at Rude.

Sax
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: mason22 on June 12, 2001, 10:21:00 PM
hook, line, and sinker.

tards.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Bodhi on June 12, 2001, 10:56:00 PM
IHHO all those that would have multiple accounts so they could cheat are...

Sad, very sad that you have that little self respect for yourself that you must cheat at a computer game.
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Post by: gijeff on June 12, 2001, 11:10:00 PM
Salute Gents,

     Seems to me that criticizing someone for cheating in order to undo YOUR cheating is a bit hypocitical.  You cheated, he cheated in response to it.  Who has the moral high ground?  I have to believe that Rip did so in response to the fact that our CV was not returned on reset.  I also believe that having your OWN spies is the only reasonable response to having enemy spies amongst you.  I have upped in a bomber heading to a target and announced my intentions to someone on country channel when asked.  Next thing I know <pouf> 5-10 cons up where I was just about to go bomb.  It has happened too many times and at too many diverse targets to be a coincidence.  They cannot see me over friendly fields on their dot dar, how did they know?  SPIES!  I have always believed in poetic justice.  I.E. Giving the bastahds a taste of their own medicine.  Or in the imortal words of Roy Boehm "F the sweet F-ers".  Don't like the solution?  Try not being part of the problem.

Jeff Waite
aka GIJeff
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: DocFalconer1 on June 13, 2001, 08:05:00 AM
That means that ripsnort's a DWEEB...
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 08:08:00 AM
Yep, Geeman likes to fly bish (think safety in numbers)...I can't help it that his monitor sits behind me, but I must say, when we logged in, and he said "Daddy, why is that CV way down in the corner?"...I was furious!  So, I set out to return the 'hidden CV'.  As we approached, I turned back around, and see Cita directing the CV further south off the map, so I accused him of 'gaming the game'(of course, he denies it) and if he plans to be a trainer, maybe that's not a good idea...

Call it cheating if you like, I could have switched countries and got the same results...no matter to me.

You should learn to tell the truth more often Cita    ;) I think you're just pissed because I caught you in a lie...if I had been there next to you, I'da sent you to your room!

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Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Eagler on June 13, 2001, 08:14:00 AM
alright girls, no hair pulling  :)

Eagler
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 08:16:00 AM
...and just for the record, I am too busy to pay attention to what Geeman has got going on with his monitor, only when he asks me questions (which is rare since he's at the Cita age where he knows everything)..do I turn around and pay attention...join him sometime, he loves to have people fly with him, but be aware, he's only 5, so his flying skills are not the best, however, I do have a short film of us doing two 'Blue Angel' stunts in the Training arena one day, if anyone is interested in viewing it, I'll post it tonight.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 08:18:00 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi:
IHHO all those that would have multiple accounts so they could cheat are...

Sad, very sad that you have that little self respect for yourself that you must cheat at a computer game.

Very sad that you make this conclusion without all the facts..very sad indeed...
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ghosth on June 13, 2001, 08:37:00 AM
As far as I'm concerned if you want to support HTC by having 3 accts more power too ya!

Moveing CV off map is IMO way lower than useing a 2nd acct to find it & bring it back into play.

Maybe CV code needs to be adjusted so it won't accept waypoints off the map.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: AKDejaVu on June 13, 2001, 08:52:00 AM
Well Rip.. gman telling you where it was just saved me the trouble of having to do it.

Hiding the CV just for the sake of hiding it really peaves me.  Just smacks of "we're too lazy to defend a port".

AKDejaVu
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: 2Late4U on June 13, 2001, 08:59:00 AM
Cheating is cheating, and there is NO justification for any of it PERIOD.  If someone moves a CV away from the action its not cheating, off the map is, however, its up to the fellow countrymen to correct the situation.  Trying to justify being a cheat by saying "he did this...they did that" is pathetic.

Would it be OK to hacked AH planes so that you could pursue offmap dweebs at 900mph?

Do you find no fault with joining a country that has a 2-1 numerical advantage to announce warn the other countries on channel 1 when they start a mission?

Should it be allowed to use lag inducing programs so that you can evade enemy patrols while you look for a missing CV?

So just where is the "justification" in cheating again?
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: OHIO on June 13, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
Rip:

    Report to HQ you have received the silver star, for being able to adapt and over come your advisaries in a true military manner! OHIO<----sneeks away with 5 ewe's from the bishops sheep pen. mmmuuuhhhhhhh!
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Pongo on June 13, 2001, 09:43:00 AM
There are a couple of things wrong with this..
One...If HT has set the maps size to be 10 times the physical area that we can see on the maps we have..give us bigger maps please. Else have an end of the world..Period.
Two...Hiding the CV is uber dweebness. Like the hight of pathetic "Im afraid of the world" kind of game playing.
Three...It must be tempting to use that other account in circumstances when you are not finding the CV....I would think that is a bad habit to get into.
Finaly. No wonder the knights are getting spanked..Our best man is under cover in Bish land. Bring Gman back to fight for the motherland like a man...up front and toe to toe...
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: batdog on June 13, 2001, 09:52:00 AM
Ohhhhhh man.... YOU MEAN I BEEN GETTING WACKED BY A 5 YEAR OLD...   :rolleyes:

Hehe

xBAT
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 10:02:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by batdog:
Ohhhhhh man.... YOU MEAN I BEEN GETTING WACKED BY A 5 YEAR OLD...    :rolleyes:

Hehe

xBAT

Well, on Friday, my brother-in-law flew on Geemans account, he's in Warbirds (was) and proceeded to spank a few butts on Furball Island, all the while Geeman had these big puppy dog eyes looking at my B-I-L as if he was saying "Give me back my machine, you're making me look bad!"
 :)
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: ET on June 13, 2001, 11:49:00 AM
To me,it seems a darn shame that two long standing members of the community are accusing each other of cheating in such a public format.They could have worked this out privately between each other.Shame on you both.  :(
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Creamo on June 13, 2001, 11:51:00 AM
Lol, you 2 account spy ring, cheating accussing, CV driving, Map bug using, fools.

  :eek:
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 11:56:00 AM
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Originally posted by ET:
To me,it seems a darn shame that two long standing members of the community are accusing each other of cheating in such a public format.They could have worked this out privately between each other.Shame on you both.   :(


Thought we had, ET, on private channel last night, but evidently that wasn't good enough for Cita.  By the way, I was the one that privated him.
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: AKDejaVu on June 13, 2001, 12:33:00 PM
This whole thing is getting silly.

It does not take a great stroke of genius to figure out where the CV is being hidden... if its on the map.  If its off the map then things get more difficult.

Nor does it take a great stroke of genius to figure out that the full red dar deflection moving sector by sector towards the CV may be someone trying to sink it.

Anyone hiding the CV so they don't have to defend it needs to accept that at some point they are going to have to defend it or lose it.

I can't believe anyone is calling someone else a cheater over this.  There are so many other fitting names to call these two :D

AKDejaVu
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 12:40:00 PM
Dickhead comes to mind Deja?  :rolleyes:
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: AKDejaVu on June 13, 2001, 12:49:00 PM
Hey rip.. I used a big smiley face on that.  Kinda thought that meant I could say anything and call it a joke.. meaning any reply you have to it was purely being anal and having no sense of humor.  :D

Come on down to the McChord airshow Saturday.  I'll get you a t-shirt with it printed on there.  It could be worse... I could be giving you te t-shirt I'm making for SOB.  :D

AKDejaVu
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: OHIO on June 13, 2001, 01:39:00 PM
Ohio<----head pop's up looks left to right, no Bishop Guards around, sneeks off with 5 more EWE's, boy I'm gonna have some tonight!

        Whap! Whap! Who's your daddy!  :D
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 01:49:00 PM
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Hey rip.. I used a big smiley face on that.  Kinda thought that meant I could say anything and call it a joke.. meaning any reply you have to it was purely being anal and having no sense of humor.   :D

Come on down to the McChord airshow Saturday.  I'll get you a t-shirt with it printed on there.  It could be worse... I could be giving you te t-shirt I'm making for SOB.   :D

AKDejaVu


Hmm, that was the last post I read before heading off to a meeting...musta missed the smiley, either way, my wife calls me worse things, and never shooots me down.. ;)

I'll be at the airshow, though wifes not to wild on meeting at Curly's place before hand, so just look for a guy with a shaved head,big arms, tattoo's that look like crap, trailed by two young boys and a beautiful brunette.  :)
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: AKDejaVu on June 13, 2001, 01:52:00 PM
Hadn't heard about the meeting at Curly's (not sure what that is.. but in a military town I can imagine)... but us NW AKs hit the McChord Air Show yearly.  You can't miss us... we're the group of geeks with pasty white flesh and cool sunglasses.

Cya there.. and I'll see if I can drag SOB up there too.... hmmm.. hadn't talked to Milnko or Bloom25.

AKDejaVu
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Ripsnort on June 13, 2001, 02:06:00 PM
Here's me ugly mug and beautiful family (X-mas)...
Nelsons (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1722739&a=13244800&p=50310560&Sequence=0)

We'll be there when da gate opens..
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Don on June 13, 2001, 02:58:00 PM
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Well Rip.. gman telling you where it was just saved me the trouble of having to do it.

Hiding the CV just for the sake of hiding it really peaves me.  Just smacks of "we're too lazy to defend a port".

AKDejaVu

I haven't been flying in this arena very long but, I have noticed that everyone has an opinion about everything in the arena

  :(
I was running a CV group last night because one of our bases (Rooks) was getting hammered by Bish's. While inflight I asked someone in Rookland to turn our CV towards 10 to help deal with the nme TG that was doing the hammering; no jy, no response. So,once my fight was over I went to the CV and took command and turned the thing. I got it to chase the nme TG and eventually destroyed it.
I turned the CV towards P-14 thinking the next effort would be there; most simply melted away. The TG ran into trouble and one dweeb in particular began whining about how I ran the TG. No, thanks for helping out at A10 and for killing the nme TG and saving our base; just whining.
It seems to me, this sim is about fighting and action; seek the nme out whenever and whereever he/she is. I wasn't a part of what this thread is about but, to offer an opinion here, it would serve no purpose to hide a TG. If it's firepower is out of the action it is doing no good. Better to die fighting than to lose yer territory and use all of your assets in an effort to get things back or to take nme territory. If protection of the CV was the issue, then countrymen should have had a/c up to protect it.
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Post by: SOB on June 13, 2001, 03:23:00 PM
Don't let it bother you Strider...the generals really come out of the woodwork when it comes to the CV.  Just do what you think is best with it, listen to the ones who make suggestions and ignore the retards to squeak at you.

Hey DejaSpew...ya didn't email me ya retard!  And since I've got the memory of a senile old man, I already made plans to fish on Saturday.  Maybe next year.  If ya see Ripsnort, smack him across the back of the head for me!  Don't tell him I asked you to do it tho'!   ;)


SOB
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: AKDejaVu on June 13, 2001, 03:26:00 PM
Hmmmm... pretty typical of an FDP to go fishing instead of going to an airshow.

AKDejaVu
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Citabria on June 13, 2001, 03:36:00 PM
going knight

will be in command of cv's for a day  :)
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: OHIO on June 13, 2001, 03:41:00 PM
For sale:

        5 Bishop EWE's, slightly used, good shape and low miles, needs some TLC, $40.00 a piece, will consider trade. serous inquires only.  ;)
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Post by: Swoop on June 13, 2001, 03:48:00 PM
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Originally posted by Citabria:
going knight

will be in command of cv's for a day   :)
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010293 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010293)

good grief, he did to.

How old are you Cit?   :rolleyes:

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Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Scootter on June 13, 2001, 03:56:00 PM
OK move along

there is nothing to see here

This is not the droid we are looking for  :cool:

(waves hand in other direction)
Title: accused of cheating by a cheat...
Post by: Jigster on June 13, 2001, 05:54:00 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  :)

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