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Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: brady on August 12, 2004, 12:22:52 AM

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(http://www.myphotodrive.com//uploads/686_144.jpg)

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: Arlo on August 12, 2004, 12:47:32 AM

Huge arsed pic ain't even loaded yet but I'll post that I responded first like other dweebs do. :D

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: Arlo on August 12, 2004, 12:48:28 AM

Ok ... now my actual guess is "loading a Lanc." No wait! 2 engines on planes in the background. Let's see ... "Loading a Sterling!"

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: hogenbor on August 12, 2004, 01:41:56 AM

Could that be a Dutch insignia in the plane on the background? (inverted orange triangle). They adopted that after the Luftwaffe shot a Dutch plane down claiming our original insignia looked so much like British roundels. Before the 10th of May 1940 of course.

Can't really make out what plane is in the background... a Hudson or a Martin B-10? I really should look in my history books.

edit:

I found a bad picture of Dutch markings on B-10's in the Dutch East-Indies (now Indonesia). They indeed carried the orange triangle. I can't find any detailed pics of the underside of a B-10 though, but I'd still guess Martin B-10.

Would be the first time that I was the first to get it right :D

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: Arlo on August 12, 2004, 03:40:16 AM

On closer inspection ... I bet you ARE right! Big ugly nose turret, 2 engines .... low draft.

(http://www.airminded.net/shortsubjs/martb10_2.jpg)


(http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/Martin/Aero12G12.jpg)
"The B-12 bomber was basically a B-10 with a Pratt & Whitney engine rather than a Wright engine."

(http://www.1000aircraftphotos.com/APS/2195L.jpg)

(http://www.aerofiles.com/hi-altsuits.jpg)

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: brady on August 12, 2004, 09:54:48 PM

It is, M-139.

In Dutch service as noted above this is what it was know as the 139 was the export model, the Dutch used around 117 of these and they faught very coragiously during the opening months of the war in the Pacific.

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: hogenbor on August 16, 2004, 09:46:25 AM

They probably fought courageously but they were underequipped and underfunded and I even heard stories of B-10 gunners wrapping themselves in bicycle tyres instead of being issued with flak vests...

The Dutch in Indonesia suffered horribly under Japanese occupation and after the war, when Indonesia struggled for indepence from the Netherlands, we commited a few atrocities of our own... source for much controversy to this very day in my country. War, it stinks.

Edit : Pleased that I guessed right btw.

Title: Name This...(846)
Post by: CurtissP-6EHawk on August 16, 2004, 11:56:31 PM

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Originally posted by hogenbor
They probably fought courageously but they were underequipped and underfunded and I even heard stories of B-10 gunners wrapping themselves in bicycle tyres instead of being issued with flak vests...

The Dutch in Indonesia suffered horribly under Japanese occupation and after the war, when Indonesia struggled for indepence from the Netherlands, we commited a few atrocities of our own... source for much controversy to this very day in my country. War, it stinks.

Edit : Pleased that I guessed right btw.

And the USA said, "I am Sorry" for droppiing the big one! :rolleyes: