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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: sullie363 on August 12, 2004, 10:28:15 PM
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The past day or so the rooks have had their backs against the wall. Some joking speculation has been made that doing poorly all the sudden was because of HiTech's ideas to hurt the side with numbers. Or was this just an uncharacteristically bad few days. Not that I feel bad for the rooks being a bish and all.
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No complaining is allowed until you are outnumbered by at least 30% for a whole month straight.
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Or ... perhaps all the complaining was unwarranted. I'm sure on Sunday there will be five or six more posts about how Knights and bish were outnumbered, when all they really need to do is get a little organized and start hitting bases away from the furballs.
--Mike/Howitzer
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Rooks down to 7 bases last night and outnumbered by 1 or 2 Bish and 10-15 Knights fought their way back to at least 17 bases before I logged - and still didn't have majority numbers.
I guess we're still cheating somehow. Maybe a Rook country penalty of 25% fuel max and no field ack on our bases will help balance the game.
LOL !
Seriously - nothing is going to balance the game when we Rooks work to take bases and Bish/Knights fly past us to go vulch 1 or 2 planes upping at our fields before dying in the ack.
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mabey we've finnaly found the solution to the rook number problem!
keep'em down to 3 bases at all times:rofl
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are you rooks really supprised about this?
if you "spoil" our sunday nights then bish/knits will hit you more than each other, even IF you are down on numbers. Maybe if some of your squads evend the sides this wouldnt be happening......
and as 68thdevil said, keeping you down to 3 bases is the only way to keep your numbers down :p
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Personally, I welcome a lesser number of rooks, but don't get over confident yet. My k/d is just as high if not higher over the past three days. You bish/knights still throw yourselves silly nilly at us like lemmings off a cliff.
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Originally posted by ra
No complaining is allowed until you are outnumbered by at least 30% for a whole month straight.
*lol* I remember us Rooks were quite outnumbered for the better part of 2002 and 2003. Was a great time too.
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Originally posted by ra
No complaining is allowed until you are outnumbered by at least 30% for a whole month straight.
As a Rook for the past 5 years.....I guess that 2½ year stretch when we were outnumbered 2-1 by BOTH other sides qualifies me:D
WHAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Originally posted by 68DevilM
mabey we've finnaly found the solution to the rook number problem!
keep'em down to 3 bases at all times:rofl
If ignorance was bliss, you'd be happy.
Karaya
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Originally posted by ALF
2½ year stretch when we were outnumbered 2-1 by BOTH other sides qualifies me:D
BS
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Amazing how some Rooks love to stroke each other :D
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yall catchin hell capturin those 3 wittle bases to arent ya?
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Originally posted by Overlag
are you rooks really supprised about this?
if you "spoil" our sunday nights then bish/knits will hit you more than each other, even IF you are down on numbers. Maybe if some of your squads evend the sides this wouldnt be happening......
I really dont think its the squads' fault over on the Rooks side. Maybe its on YOUR two ends... You aren't doing your job's over recruiting people. I went to fly bish for a day or two and all I saw on the country channel was: "If ya dont like it here, fly rooks!" "I bet the rooks have a fun time on their country, go fly with em!"
Or "Go fly rooks, you'll always win!"
Its not the Rook's problem, its bish and knits problem for not recruiting properly.
This was not directed to a person or small group of people, only to two countries as a whole.
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I like the implication they COULD keep Rooks down to 3 bases whenever they want......cracks me up.
Reality is this - there is a normal ebb and flow - sometimes the Rooks will be up, sometimes down..... Numbers are NOT the end all....... I have seen times when we Rooks outnumbered the Bish and Knits only to be beaten back.... No one has the market cornered on furballing versus tactics....the Rooks specialize in it....
However, and that said, the Rooks can be deadly..... when we work together, and apply tactics.
Bottom line - every one will win in time...this isn't a numbers issue.
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PS....
I am having as much fun from 3 bases as from 100.....Killing just as much, destroying as many hangars, etc...
JUST LEAVE THE GOSH DANG RADAR ALONE!
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It's no ones problem really. All the sides have been through this. For now it is the Rooks with the advantage.
Personaly I think Big deal, but I could care less about the resets etc.
I could see how the guys that log in to win the war get all wet because they are out numbered and winning the war isn't going to happen. So after a while some of these guys are going to go to the side that wins the war more. Today that is the Rooks.
So the other sides are left with more people that would rather fight than play "Win The War" and we like being out numbered because there are more people to shoot at.
When my squad went Rook I wasn't thrilled about being on the country that had the numbers but there were a lot of fun guys to fly with so it was ok.
I'm not sure where all this numbers balancing is going to go, but I am for anything that promotes more fighting more long battles more pitting player against player.
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Originally posted by Overlag
are you rooks really supprised about this?
if you "spoil" our sunday nights then bish/knits will hit you more than each other, even IF you are down on numbers. Maybe if some of your squads even the sides this wouldnt be happening......
Oh yeah, thats the ticket, this is payback for sunday nights, not that without ganging the rooks constantly they would take command of the map immediately.
and as 68thdevil said, keeping you down to 3 bases is the only way to keep your numbers down :p
And yet a reset is still so far out of reach :)
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I much prefer being outnumbered than being on a largely unopposed steamroll. It's more exciting by a factor of 10.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I much prefer being outnumbered than being an a largely unopposed steamroll. It's more exciting by a factor of 10.
Zazen
back it up by switching to knits or bish for a tour or two.
double dog dare ya.
:D
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Last night the Rooks came back from 3 bases to 8. They reason?
Partly because 262s and Tempests were dirt cheap with so few Rooks on. We even launched a Tempest raid on A18. Talk about unstoppable... Those planes add a great advantage to the underdog country. We beat back the assault. The perk system worked as designed. Every player on all sides got to fly their favorite plane, but we Rooks enjoyed the cheap cost of Tempests and 262s and took full advantage of it.
Despite having 1/2 the players and no DAR, I personally landed 10 kills in Tempests with no deaths. What a great plane. Once the numbers balanced out I switched back to my favorite Mossie ride.
Was a blast last night.
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The only reason I can see these posts continuing is because its much harder to get 10-15 dedicated folks together and start steamrolling bases than it is to log off and post a BBS whine. Personally, I could care less who wins the war, but quite a few play for that reason.... and a horde of motivated and coordinated flyers can really tear apart bases. In this game the best defense is a good offense.
--Mike/Howitzer
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Originally posted by Hyrax81st
Seriously - nothing is going to balance the game when we Rooks work to take bases and Bish/Knights fly past us to go vulch 1 or 2 planes upping at our fields before dying in the ack.
We fly past you (and below) because you are normally at 30K. The only time a rook is low enough to furball is when he is on the runway :-)
Acetnt
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well Howziter, I would have to agree with you here, yesterday morning I sat in an M3 at A16 for nearly an hour and a 1/2 waiting for the knights to finish off the town, I saw 2 large green dar bars coming 1 from A18 1 from a17, thing is they never made it, they stopped to fight with the few rooks inbound to A17 and got completely lost about what we was trying to do,
if you are setting out to accomplish a goal why drop your ord. and chase down 2 or 3 planes, why not do your first objective, then after accomplishing that attend to the secondary objective, only time one should drop ord and engage is if they are being attacked out right, not because a enemy is flying by to cap a field, if he turns toward you and seems to be coming for you then and only then get ready for a merge and drop ord and set up for him.
yet some said well we can't get away from 17 they got us pinned down, they wouldn't have had ya pinned down if you didn't try to intercept them and got killed, you be pinning them down trying to up at A16........so as I said to start with, I agree with ya Howitzer......
btw---I fly on the Knights side........
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In three years of playing, I have never seen either the northern or western country get reset on the NDILSES map. It's the nature of the map design. Whoever gets the southeast corner will be hard pressed to avoid a reset. Restructuring field ownership would help, as it would with all the smaller maps.
My regards,
Widewing
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I much prefer being outnumbered than being on a largely unopposed steamroll. It's more exciting by a factor of 10.
back it up by switching to knits or bish for a tour or two.
now here comes the "rooks better teamwork...blah blah blah". unless of course, he is flying under his wifes account. :D
~S~
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If the Knits and Bish got creative they wouldn't reset you... (im knit now hence the you..)
They could blow your dar for a month straight and blow blinded hapless rooks from the sky... as punishment for their insolence.. I would cry havoc and just do that... then thru community policing the sides would even..
I laugh at all these rook outnumber claims for those who wern't rook for the 1 1/2 year guantlet..
Is it bad yes... is 150 +150 vs 50 race it used to be no...
Rooks arn't organised, with 50 people we used to defend that same island for at least 3-4 hours before combined Knit bish forces would overwelm us.. the other nite with 180 we were struggling getting into the air.. so make your own deductions...
DoctorYo
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I just look at it this way. I've been a rook for many years and only a rook. The CAF and the Ghost are friends of our squad, which has led to the decision that the Nazgul will continue to remain rook.
I've been through the ovewhelmed stage, and now I am part of the overwhelming force. I don't like it when the rooks have numbers, but I will not change sides without my squad of which I have been a part of for 9yrs (I think, from the old AW days).
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Originally posted by GScholz
*lol* I remember us Rooks were quite outnumbered for the better part of 2002 and 2003. Was a great time too.
yup.
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Originally posted by acetnt367th
We fly past you (and below) because you are normally at 30K. The only time a rook is low enough to furball is when he is on the runway :-)
Acetnt
LOL ! Not when I have barely climbed out to 2,000 ft after take off and a 109 PASSES BY my loaded down P47-D40 just to strafe the field...heh heh...
I don't think I've ever gotten to 30K before - too high to see the under dar Goons trying to sneak our bases.
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Originally posted by sullie363
The past day or so the rooks have had their backs against the wall. Some joking speculation has been made that doing poorly all the sudden was because of HiTech's ideas to hurt the side with numbers. Or was this just an uncharacteristically bad few days. Not that I feel bad for the rooks being a bish and all.
we in a tight spot! we in a tight spotT
let R U N N O F T!
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Originally posted by Shane
back it up by switching to knits or bish for a tour or two.
double dog dare ya.
:D
I learned how to play AH in the outnumbered situation. My first 6 months of Aces High was on Rooks during their most outnumbered period.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I learned how to play AH in the outnumbered situation. My first 6 months of Aces High was on Rooks during their most outnumbered period.
Zazen
i was a rook, then, too...
now apply the post-learning curve experiences as a knit, or bish.
i mean, didn't you just claim you prefer to be outnumbered?
c'mon, risking that precious k/d for a tour or 2 would only be a mere blip on your record.
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Originally posted by Shane
i was a rook, then, too...
now apply the post-learning curve experiences as a knit, or bish.
i mean, didn't you just claim you prefer to be outnumbered?
c'mon, risking that precious k/d for a tour or 2 would only be a mere blip on your record.
I play alot on Knights already as does my wife.
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I play alot on Knights already as does my wife.
Zazen
i wasn't talking to "lexus" but to "zazen."
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Originally posted by hawk410
yall catchin hell capturin those 3 wittle bases to arent ya?
isnt nothing the knites and bish havent done before in the past
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Originally posted by Shane
i wasn't talking to "lexus" but to "zazen."
Zazen stays Rooks forever, until the end of time. ;)
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Does anyone (else) remember when Rooks were ALWAYS outnumbered? It wasn't all that long ago; they developed their Joint Operations out of desparation to fight the hoards of knits and bish.
On the other hand, if you wanted a good fight, you went after Rooks. With a few exceptions Bish were baby seals compared to the Rooks, who got reset with regularity and fought back from a couple bases almost as often. For all the grief I gave them, I also had a lot of respect for those guys.
Finally some of the varsity squads changed to Rook to help even the numbers. Some of the JV changed to fly with the big guys, and numbers tipped to the Rooks. Once that happened the DweebSquads went Rook to be with the numbers.
Knights are in the barrel now. Big deal. You learn how to fly when the odds are against you. As a group, the Knights are better at quite a few things than they were back when it was the Rook's turn, despite arguments to the contrary on green. Once numbers start to shift again, and they will with or without HiTech having to write code (pretty elegant solution if you ask me; nicely done Dale) it will be someone else's turn.
For the people who try to even the numbers, or those who stay through feast and famine, .
As for the rest of you dweebs, keep on doing what you're doing. My score needs it.
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Puck you are mistaken on one thing, I did write code then also to change perk values based on country balance.
HiTech
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True statement. If I remember right, though, that didn't have a huge numbers impact even if it was cool. It wasn't until some of the big squads started announcing their switch to Rook the cascade started. Wish I could remember who had the testocular fortitude to change first; I know it wasn't us (VMF323).
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R U N N O F T
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Originally posted by Boozer2
Oh yeah, thats the ticket, this is payback for sunday nights, not that without ganging the rooks constantly they would take command of the map immediately.
you must have your head up your A*** because lately rooks arnt getting ANYWHERE, even with 90% more numbers. But then Rooks are more skillful right? needing a 5:1 advantage everywhere.........