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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: tapakeg on August 13, 2004, 11:45:12 PM
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Ok, if you want to post or read opinions about the new balancing mode by HTC go to another thread.
SO........................... with one word reply's, are you FOR or AGAINST the new system.
me?
AGAINST
Tapakeg
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For
(change is good)
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Too soon to tell.
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against
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for it it has to be beter the gitin run over by the hord
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against
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for. tired of the down to 5 bases, 200+ rooks spread out over a front of 2 sector's and radar out, log.
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Against
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If the planes were perked instead of disabled it wouldn't be so bad. But as it is now I'm against.
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Originally posted by Xargos
If the planes were perked instead of disabled it wouldn't be so bad. But as it is now I'm against.
I agree that if a limiting factor is going to be introduced, it should be perking (something everyone already understands and can quickly adapt to) rather than restriction of the plane-set. But the old argument of why certain planes have never been perked will resurface as a result...
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you are against it as of now right hyrax?
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Originally posted by dragoon
you are against it as of now right hyrax?
Yes, against it as currently implemented. Plane set shouldn't be restricted in MA. That's what the CT (and ToD) would be for.
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it has been shown perks aren't enough can't you see that? most people have over 500 perks anyways so really whats the point of perks?
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Most people, realy? Not I.
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For (twenty) it
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
it has been shown perks aren't enough can't you see that? most people have over 500 perks anyways so really whats the point of perks?
I think after a month or so the perks would start to work. People would burn most of their PP bank off and Perks would work the way they were intended eventually. Of course there are those who have 10k + perks , then again they are the community that can fly any plane and have success too. I would really like to see a slight perk cost on late war planes , but I'm dreaming.
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B17 what about the C-Hog. perked from 4 to 12 points and now they arent all that common
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I am not against it or like it. Because I havent played yet. All I want to know is what happens when a big mission ups. And half cant up?
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lets see.
F4U-1C 2246 905 1.32 0.53 2.48
now lets compare that with the spit9
Spitfire Mk IX 6697 6913 3.94 4.07 0.97
well hot damn 1/3 the use of the spit9.
2nd most used hog. perks do nonthing. if you dont understand the fact that people have huge bank rolls in perks and are to timid to fight. that is why they have utterly failed to balance numbers. Instead you just have more planes in the air with perks that are to scared to fight.
http://www.innomi.com/ahkillstats/totalstats.php
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Against it. Rediculous idea. Life ain't fair, get over it.
ts
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For it.
Eventually all countries will be affected by it at one time or another.
If HT was to perk LA7, P51 etc we would be getting exactly the same complaints.
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Originally posted by tshred
Against it. Rediculous idea. Life ain't fair, get over it.
ts
LOL, exactly tshred, Life aint fair....get over it and adapt :0)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
For it.
Eventually all countries will be affected by it at one time or another.
If HT was to perk LA7, P51 etc we would be getting exactly the same complaints.
Not exactly... because the planes would still be available for a nominal cost - as opposed to now, where they are completely eliminated from the plane-set.
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against it ... just because of a number inbalance ... we should lose plane choices ... hell its bad enough when 262's cost 500 perks and every one else gets them for 49 . (us rooks didnt get that perk adv 2 yrs ago )
hell just bribe one or two prime time squads over to the knits or bish and the whining will stop ...( i wish)
A noble Rook never whined when the numbers were the other way .
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Hyrax I would agree, but perking the Pony and La7 would result in the same complaints but for different reasons.
Kweassa had a post about perking planes, the majority of responses were negative.
HT can't win either way. Lets see how it pans out over a few weeks, like the 75% fuel and no night ( which I don't like ) people will adapt.
For people to say if I can't fly (insert model) plane I am cancelling or whatever is just ridiculous. Bit like cutting your nose off to spite your face. The good/great whatever pilots in this game will adapt to the new style.
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If it gets to the point were I can't fly a Bf109G-10 nor a G-2 I'm out of here.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
For people to say if I can't fly (insert model) plane I am cancelling or whatever is just ridiculous. Bit like cutting your nose off to spite your face. The good/great whatever pilots in this game will adapt to the new style.
I agree that time will tell and there is no reason to quit the game in the first 48 hours after a patch like this.
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For it
Zabe
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Neutral. But, I'd prefer to see planes disabled as a result of a successful bombing mission, not because of numbers. :rolleyes:
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i like that idea T-bolt
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for it
you no there is more then 1 ride last time i looked
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Nice idea T-Bolt - one major problem.
Side with big numbers advantage bombs the crap outta the lower numbered factories. They are in even more problems than previoulsy.
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against!
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[SIZE=12]against[/SIZE]
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Against.
Maybe the RJO can convince rook squads to move to knights sunday night and let their pilots taste this new implementation.
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Originally posted by Goth
Against.
Maybe the RJO can convince rook squads to move to knights sunday night and let their pilots taste this new implementation.
Oh please do. WAIT! Since I don't fly much of anything with a low ENY....nevermind :).
Of course, it is interesting that you might be willing to switch countries to annoy another group of players...but, not to help balance the game play in the arena.
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I'm with nobaddy here, usually fly P-47s so I'm completely unaffected, anyway, that said... FOR (it forces some LA-7 dweebs to fly a real plane)
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why are so many rooks against it?
I thought their success to this point had been attributed to superior teamwork and tactics, honed during their year in the bucket?
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Originally posted by Goth
Against.
Maybe the RJO can convince rook squads to move to knights sunday night and let their pilots taste this new implementation.
hehe, that would be a funny dance, then all the knits would go rook.
Oh yeah, too soon to tell. Personally, I fly the Spit V, 109 F4, 205, 109 A8 so I don't know if I'd be all that affected if this comes to knits.
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For
if teamwork was the key to success, it shouldnt matter should it?
~S~
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im FOR the drama on channel 200
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For.
Far better than time penalty, and make the game fair again for the lower side.
All against must be Rooks. :) Just kidding.
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Oh no, waaaaaa, I'm crying so hard, waaaaaaa, I'm blubbering, waaaaaa, waaaaaa. :rolleyes:
For so far. Worth it just to hear rookies cry and whine.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Nice idea T-Bolt - one major problem.
Side with big numbers advantage bombs the crap outta the lower numbered factories. They are in even more problems than previoulsy.
U have a point, but I still think it's something that could be worked out.
Re: anti-factory missions...
Mission success wouldn't come for 1-dweeb in a single shot-up bomber that lobs 6 eggs in the general direction of the factory buildings. Total mission success against factories would be quite a task.
I don't want to hi-jack this thead, though, with talk about factories.
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Agreed T-Bolt.
But with NOE raids on strats its notorious difficult to get to them before they have have bit.
HQ NOE raids have proven to be a goog example.
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AGAINST!!!
(https://home.comcast.net/~samaras/wsb/media/287205/site1004.jpg)
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Originally posted by FBRaptor
Too soon to tell.
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Open Letter to Hitech
I pay good money to play this game and to fly these planes. I just watched 32 Bishops log off in the last 30 minutes (I made 33) in frustration. i HAVE HAD TWO MISSIONS DISRUPTED AT LAUNCH BECAUSE PLANES THAT WERE OK WHEN THE MISSION WAS ACCEPTED WERE NO LONGER ALLOWED AT MISSION LAUNCH!! I refuse to pay you ANY MORE money if I cannot fly the planes.
LET ME MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I REFUSE TO PAY YOU ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL I CAN FLY THE PLANES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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For. I'm with DipStick. The whines are great entertainment.
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AGAINST
There are better ways to accomplish the same task.. this is just punishing people to an extreme for something they can't control.
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I am thoroughly enjoying it.
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um bammer, nobody said you cant fly the planes, just to fly them you must switch countries, or even out the numbers, hence the term balancing. oh well.
~S~
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FOR
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Originally posted by Bammer4
Open Letter to Hitech
I pay good money to play this game and to fly these planes. I just watched 32 Bishops log off in the last 30 minutes (I made 33) in frustration. i HAVE HAD TWO MISSIONS DISRUPTED AT LAUNCH BECAUSE PLANES THAT WERE OK WHEN THE MISSION WAS ACCEPTED WERE NO LONGER ALLOWED AT MISSION LAUNCH!! I refuse to pay you ANY MORE money if I cannot fly the planes.
LET ME MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I REFUSE TO PAY YOU ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL I CAN FLY THE PLANES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can fly the planes just not the p51D/La7 etc, big deal, theres loads of other planes
idiot:rolleyes:
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Against
For so far. Worth it just to hear rookies cry and whine.
You ARE a rookie dipsh*t.
Mullah
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For it
great idea IMHO
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against 15
for 13
undecided: did not tally
no real for or against respose: did not tally
the thread aint over yet. GO AGAINST yee ha
to bad most of the AGAINST players refuse to post on the BBS due to the people who have nothing better to do than flame. everyone has an opinion on this wether its against, for or neutral. to bad they choose to remain silent.
we do pay our 15 per month. its an investment of our time and money for something we consider alot of fun. that 15 per month also gives us the right to try instagate change. the people who complained about the numbers prompted change but im sure it wasnt exacly what they was looking for. now its our turn to complain about the change and try to reverse it or HELP find another solution EVERYONE can be happy with.:aok
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well I wasnt going to participate, but if you're gonna cheerlead
FOR
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Well at first I was against it. Now after seeing it in action I am
FOR IT
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Against. Balancing should be implemented using positive reinforcement, not negative.
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for.
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eskimo
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AGAINST
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AGAINST
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Salute All
Against it
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Now that I've actually flown under the new rules for a few hours, I'll change my "Neutral" to an "Against"[/b] even though it doesn't seem to affect my German rides much.
This change upsets and alienates many customer...a bad decision, imho.
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I usualy had 10 lalas and 5 spits in my 6, so,
4 it
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Originally posted by Overlag
you can fly the planes just not the p51D/La7 etc, big deal, theres loads of other planes
idiot:rolleyes:
Uhh...overlag? I noticed that the pony and lgay-7 are not the only a/c affected by this change. The B-17 is restricted, now. What else...?
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against
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the B-17's are restricted?
Ok, what planes are restricted, and when are they unavailable? How much of an offset in numbers does it take to make what plane unavailable?
Tapakeg
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Originally posted by tapakeg
the B-17's are restricted?
Ok, what planes are restricted, and when are they unavailable? How much of an offset in numbers does it take to make what plane unavailable?
Tapakeg
the higher the imbalance between the largest and smallest country the higher the eny-limiter goes... which makes sense it whacks the b-17... i dunno the exact %, but as an example lets say bish have 180 on, rooks 120 and knits 130... at that point the eny-limiter has probably crept up to the mid 20's due te the % differential being 33%. (100 - (120/180))
now with a 60 player differential, and lets be honest, no side ever has their #'s evenly split bewteen two fronts, removing the b-17 only forces the bish to use lower eny'd buffs like a b-26 or a-20 (which have smaller bomb loads), but with the #'s advantage it slows down that pigpile somewhat, requiring a bit more "teamwork" and strategy as opposed to sheer overwhelming numbers in conjunction with the "best" planes.
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For it!!!
RHIN0
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It's interesting to see when 2 countries get limited also.
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Its too early to decide for sure, I think we have give it at least a whole tour before we can tell if it has the effect of evening out the sides. Too many are posting here that their choices are being limited. You still HAVE a choice. You can choose to fly any plane you want or for any country you want, you just cannot choose BOTH is all that has changed.
Put me down as a "FOR", but I reserve the right to change that vote after a month of this test.