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Title: A Good Start
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 14, 2004, 06:24:27 PM
Bring 'em all home. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20040814/ts_nm/arms_usa_military_dc)
Title: A Good Start
Post by: XtrmeJ on August 14, 2004, 06:37:31 PM
Alright, getting back on the right track.
Title: A Good Start
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 14, 2004, 06:44:01 PM
Bush is just bringing the army home so he can overthrow the election this november should he loose to Kerry.. We are doomed!
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gunslinger on August 14, 2004, 07:25:16 PM
that kinda sucks actually.  2/3 of those will be coming from Germany.  This is one of the best places to get stationed at in the US military!

Either way good plan
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Raubvogel on August 14, 2004, 08:19:01 PM
Long overdue...
Title: A Good Start
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 14, 2004, 08:47:04 PM
I thought this was going to be a thread about a buss load of lawyers crashing into a river. :D
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gunslinger on August 14, 2004, 08:49:15 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I thought this was going to be a thread about a buss load of lawyers crashing into a river. :D


That thread would be titled "A Great Start"


Now if they were ACLU lawyers it would be "An AWSOME Start"
Title: A Good Start
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 14, 2004, 08:58:12 PM
Guns
 Good point!


 LOL be carefull messing with the ACLU they are like the holy grail of the left! :D
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Nilsen on August 15, 2004, 03:06:47 AM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I thought this was going to be a thread about a buss load of lawyers crashing into a river. :D


Heeey , Hortlund is a lawyer so dont offend him :D
Title: A Good Start
Post by: JoOwEn on August 15, 2004, 03:20:03 AM
Maybe we should just bring the Navy home also.
Title: A Good Start
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 15, 2004, 03:20:36 AM
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I remember you mentioning tha you would like to see all troops deployed overseas return to the US. For what reason?


So many reasons I have lost count.  Main ones:
1.  Troops are for defending the US.  (per the Constitution).  Not defending everybody else.  Let the rest of the world pay for their own defense.
2.  Too expensive.  Taxes are strangling our standard of living and ability to compete in a global economy.
3.  Our political leadership (either party, they are the same under the wrestling masks) is corrupt and no longer represents the people.  Downsizing and withdrawing our military will reduce the number of people (friendly and enemy) who die needlessly because of the *******s in DC.
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Nilsen on August 15, 2004, 03:28:33 AM
the future for america is  Floating seabases, able to launch and sustain amphibious operations, could revolutionize the way in which expeditionary forces conduct a land campaign.

http://www.janes.com/defence/news/idr/idr040727_1_n.shtml
Title: A Good Start
Post by: JoOwEn on August 15, 2004, 03:30:53 AM
Well Im a pretty simple guy and when I play board games I notice one thing. The map never changes. Its just good to know we got stuff there and there. And there.

;)
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Nilsen on August 15, 2004, 03:32:04 AM
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Originally posted by JoOwEn
Well Im a pretty simple guy and when I play board games I notice one thing. The map never changes. Its just good to know we got stuff there and there. And there.

;)


risk? :D
Title: A Good Start
Post by: JoOwEn on August 15, 2004, 03:33:46 AM
Risk and Axis and Allies.

:D
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gunslinger on August 15, 2004, 03:38:34 AM
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Originally posted by JoOwEn
funked you might think that its a good thing to do but its actually not a smart move. The US needs to have troops deployed overseas. Its part of diplomacy, foreign policy (the good kind), and proactive in thinking. I dont mean moving troops from europe and asia to Iraq. If thats needed then ok. I remember you mentioning tha you would like to see all troops deployed overseas return to the US. For what reason?


actually we really dont NEED our military overseas.

We have the ability to project power from great distances at a moments notice.  

There is no enemy to defend Europe against so no need for 40,000+ troops there.  

Threats change....so does the prepositioning.
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Nilsen on August 15, 2004, 04:04:12 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
Well if NATO doesnt want to help...


?
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gunslinger on August 15, 2004, 04:07:30 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
Well if NATO doesnt want to help...


really though help against what?  Who?

The US spends billions of dollars on deployed troops to Europe for what?

Mark my words.  You are going to hear some serions beaching from Germany over this.  They stand to loose a TON of money and jobs.
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Nilsen on August 15, 2004, 04:10:45 AM
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Originally posted by MrCoffee
Moving troops out of europe to send to Iraq is also a political statement. It says to NATO, you are not needed. Am I wrong? Just my opinion.


So you say that Bush and his cabinet finds NATO to be obsolete?
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Staga on August 15, 2004, 04:17:50 AM
After all the b1tching they did when EU announced its intentions to build a EU Army where US wouldn't have any word?
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gh0stFT on August 15, 2004, 04:26:24 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Mark my words.  You are going to hear some serions beaching from Germany over this.  They stand to loose a TON of money and jobs.


I think you are right, but there is no future for this kind of "free-market economy".
The stationed troops here dont work like a company, they are just here sitting around, nothing is produced.
You say they will lose TON's of money, hey you are talking bout
your US Taxes!
Yes some germans who depend on this money will lose,
but we here need anyway new jobs, maybe a good time now.

Its a wise move and i think it will only stronger your millitary.

R
Gh0stFT
Title: A Good Start
Post by: Gunslinger on August 15, 2004, 03:17:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
I think you are right, but there is no future for this kind of "free-market economy".
The stationed troops here dont work like a company, they are just here sitting around, nothing is produced.
You say they will lose TON's of money, hey you are talking bout
your US Taxes!
Yes some germans who depend on this money will lose,
but we here need anyway new jobs, maybe a good time now.

Its a wise move and i think it will only stronger your millitary.

R
Gh0stFT


I was referring mostly to the civilians employed by the base and the money that the troops/familys actually put into the economy.  Host countries of many nations make ALOT of money off of military bases.