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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: whels on June 13, 2001, 03:19:00 PM
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HT after u had logged while ago. Cit defected to Knitland, and has taken control
of both CVs and is presently moving them out of fights we were in and wont respond
to being asked to put them back were we had them. being 2nd rank no one can take CO of them. i believe he is sailing them out of
our fights into middle of nowhere to get back and Rip and Knits for retaking and finding out Cit was hiding TG41 yesterday.
this behavior is bad, and is not good for AH.
this behavior is unbecoming og a Ah trainer wanabee.
i have screen shots if u want them.
Whels
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I agree.........I have never been inspired to post to this board, but I used to respect the flying ability of Citabria and his various kill streaks, but this behavior today is childish, unsportmanlike, and just downright wrong. I am 59 years old, will never be a hotshot pilot, and I fly this game for fun, being an old USN type, Naval Academy class of '65. But this kind of action takes the fun out of it for me and a lot of other people. Please do something to reprimand this wee one and teach him some adult behavior.
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Wow Cit, I think I just heard Central Jr. call you an immature little twit! :eek:
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I'm terribly sorry, I seem to have walked into the Kindergarten section of the AH BBS.
Could a grown-up please point me in the right direction and I'll be on my way. Thanks.
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Dowding ]
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there's a grown up section?
(http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
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?
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Does this mean there is someone even more inmature than me and Geeman?
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.. that would be me; Animal. :)
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Considering your age-to-tardness ratio..
yes, you are right.
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I would back Whels and Rector 100% on this. I suppose juvenile,immature behaviour isn't a banning matter otherwise Hitech wouldn't have a business, but in doing nothing you take the risk of loosing more than just the odd noisy individual. Those leaving would do so without making a big fuss about it, but they would be gone none the less. It's a judgement call I guess.
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Brrrringgg Brrrringgg Brrrringgg Brrrringgg ........... Hey! its the maturity phone can some one please answer it...... :eek:
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I just wanted to see what my member number was.
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Witnessed it too, logged off in disgust. I'm about to make a sad, and major decision here in about 24 hours. :(
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I take it this isn't a joke? :confused:
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lol ripsnort you couldnt quit ah. who'd be next, westy and lephturn? :)
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Cit if you actually did this.....
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Bad move Cit :( Bad move.
LLB OUT!!!!!!!!
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"In today's news, famed pilot Citabria hijacked 2 of the Carrier groups and sailed the off map. His demands to the higher powers: Fix the P-38 and the F6F. The sheep on board are very frightened and were last seen running on the deck from the FDB stowaways that were trying to molest them, on with the sports Joe..."
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guilty until proven innocent :rolleyes:
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Don't give me that toejam Cita. You disgust me..never has anyone in this game ever got me as angry as what your childish antics accomplished...GROW UP!
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Originally posted by Tac:
... The sheep on board are very frightened and were last seen running on the deck from the FDB stowaways that were trying to molest them, ..."
Molest? hell no ... have you ever had fermented sheep's milk? We just want the milk. Nummy Nummy :D
Now comere fluffy, this isn't gonna hurt a bit.
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whats wrong ripsnort?
:confused:
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Just wanted to clarify one point from Whels original post, that, after whels Post, he first took them out of action, until our Port was captured, then turned the CV around, nice and conveniently close to the enemy shore(where tank fire can reach) and submitted our CV to the Bishops.
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ouch :(
Here is a fix? not rank but TIME IN COUNTRY?
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What a Jerk!!!!
Maybe HTC should consider changing the 12 hour rule for country changing to something like a 7 day rule. It might help prevent this childish behavior.
BgMAW
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I usually try to stay out of these things, but if Citabria did this, it is inexcusable.
I noticed his post offers no explanation, defense or comment. I fear I must assume by his lack of defense that the charges are true.
I am dissapointed that someone would act so selfishly, in such a poor manner as to ruin the gameplay. I will be more dissapointed if HT or Pyro do not comment or address this type of action. Many players work hard to achieve goals in this game, and there are rewards for such. To allow one person to destroy the design of the gameplay for so many is unacceptable.
I really think an explanation or answer is due the players.
Dago
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I'm just a little confused here, while I find the actions alleged here to be quite juvenile, Im not sure just what kind of "action" you think should be taken.
We start off with someone taking a captured CV out of play (was is offmap or just in the backlines?)....then with a stroke of genious, another player decides to cheat by using a secondary account to decern the missing CV location to recover it. This provokes the original CV controling party to switch countries in a perfectly legitimate fashion, take control of their CVs and move them in ways not to the liking of most of his new countries players, clearly intending to flex his rank muscles in their faces.
Sure, sounds like a wrong thing to do (almost like GASP cheating). But if we are not going to address the issues of using multiple accounts to obtain country specific information, how are we to punish those who move CVs in ways others don't agree with? Its the old 2 wrongs making a right kind of issue.
I would certainly have no problem with HT taking apropriate action to make sure players don't do things that while not specifically against the rules, are clearly disruptive of the game. My main concern is I've seen two imature people trying to one up each other, and they BOTH need to realize that neither handled the issue very well IMHO.
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Originally posted by BigGun:
What a Jerk!!!!
Maybe HTC should consider changing the 12 hour rule for country changing to something like a 7 day rule. It might help prevent this childish behavior.
BgMAW
maybe the 1st time u sign on at the 1st of each month or u sign on ur new account. u choose a country and u have to stay that country till the 1st of the month again.
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lol!
guess what ripsnort
we captured a8... that base the cv was shelling and how do you call 30 kills while in the cv's gun position "delivering" the cv to the bishops. :confused:
the only reason the cv was sunk at all because we engaged it in a sea battle with an enemy cv group which was totally destroyed but they managed to sink the cv in the process. :eek:
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Originally posted by Citabria:
lol!
guess what ripsnort
we captured a8... that base the cv was shelling and how do you call 30 kills while in the cv's gun position "delivering" the cv to the bishops. :confused:
the only reason the cv was sunk at all because we engaged it in a sea battle with an enemy cv group which was totally destroyed but they managed to sink the cv in the process. :eek:
ahh u foget to mention that u took tg41 away from p41/40 while we were using it ot defend and retake p42/42, u actually tried to send it to 22 at 1st. by disrupting our use of TG41 u cause the fall of 40/42 and 39 after/ and also u took tg31 off 45 while we were attacking it, and when enemy CV engaged TG31 u kept turning it as not to allow tg31 to fire on enemy tg.
oh and nice job of sailing TG41 right into thier torps at 8.
whels
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*nothing but regret was posted here, and editted.
[ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: Ripsnort ]
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Salute Gents,
I can't say I am sorry I missed THIS bit of business. What a lame thing to do. Make EVERYONE including HTC suffer for your embarassment getting caught at doing something you shouldn't have been doing in the first place? I consider it quite conceivable that many will cancel their accounts if no action is taken against Citabria if he actually did this. All I can say is this arena will degenerate into what has been going on in the TA lately. One or more people trying to ruin it for everyone else.
I hate to see a pilot as skilled as Citabria removed from the venue, but there is no alternative in my opinion. If HTC takes no action and everyone perceives that HTC will allow this behavior, it won't be the last we see of it. In addition, many will leave immediately and not wait for the "fun" to begin. I certainly hope he isn't still being considered as a trainer after this episode. Of course all of this assumes guilt, but the guys making the acusations are not prone to mendacity, and I know most of them, so am inclined to believe it out of hand.
Jeff Waite
aka GIJeff
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Hear hear 2late. Rip, none of my f#cking business, but, why are you dragging your son into this arguement.
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ah the catalyst
is that whats bothering you ripsnort?
Geeman wasnt cheating... you were.
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well my thoughs are you both are being childish. rip acted like an bellybutton for having his son take control of the cv group and keep it there. and tell all the knights it was there.
and cit was being an bellybutton for not letting any one take it out from the corner.
yell you 2 deserve eachother.
and whining about canleling accounts because of this is even more childish.
Btw not defending cit but you know he switches countries depending on where he can get the most kills. he is a merc
Trell
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tards
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surprised noone has mentioned the dispicable exchange on the knights country buffer:
citabria to whels: "you arrogant cripple"
citabria to whels: "why don't you roll your wheel chair down a flight of stairs"
lemme gues....just kiddin huh....wish i could call my boss names and then say aw just kiddin. i have seen some tantrums from this guy before but this is some really low stuff. shameful.
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Being able to so easily dweeb dive bomb kamakazi the frggin CVs makes them useless toys anyway.
AH needs some more strat. Not the kind you have in gameplay but the kind the developers employ to make a better simulation of combat....
Y
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Geeman knows from watching, listening to me on RW, and flying with me, that there are several in each country that report to each others countrys the whereabouts of "hidden CV's"...he report to me verbally was no different than that of someone typing it on a text buffer. If thats cheating then so be it.
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It might be even historical. The absolute authority over CV ;).
Let's say some German agent killed Stalin and took his place. He could have ordered to move all Soviet forces behind the Ural and fight the fight from there. As well as purges against those who disagree.
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Hristo ]
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Ok....regardless of what Citabria did Ripsnort, you still dont think that having two separate accounts, logged on at the same time, flying for two different countries which allows you access to country specific information is just a little bit wrong?
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Have you ever said anything on the BBS that you regretted later.
I have, fortunatly Rip was a nice guy and let it go.
Same thing needs to happen here with Cit and Rip.
Both are important to AH community, both are leaders in our game.
You guys need to make this go away, cause if you quit, everyone loses.
Sax
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thats why I lied yesterday when I said I didnt move the cv there rip... here is what you said after your raid on my hidden CV
"You liar I watched you move it there"
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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Originally posted by Citabria:
thats why I lied when I said I didnt move the cv there rip... here is what you said...
"You liar I watched you move it there"
Yep, never said I didn't, Geeman reported the CV was hidden, I turn around, watch you turn the waypoints SE even further off the map, then I called you on it private and you lied about it.
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Gaming the game has always been the part of the online experience.
It's perfectly legal for Rip to have as many accounts as his wallet allows.
It's a game feature that Citabria has the "rank" to take control of the CVs, so it's legal.
Alot of gameplay issues are cheesy, (i.e. using the CV as a floating ackstar right off a base, ack should kill EVERYONE it hits, not just enemas). And a couple of gameplay features ruin the enjoyment for some, after all ya can't make everyone happy all the time.
I equate having separate accounts logged on to separate countries sorta like looking at a buddies cards in poker when he goes to the fridge for a beer.
I equate taking control of the CVs knowingly pissing off your countrymen to the kid that sez' these are my toys and U can't play with em.
And I equate anyone who sez they'll quit over this, to the kid in the sandbox who picks up his toy trucks, and sez "fine then! I'll just go home!"
The only person I really feel sorry for here is Geeman, seems kinda harsh to ruin a 5 year olds enjoyment over this, why didn't ya just switch him to the same country as yours Ripsnort?
Lastly folks, git a grip, the egos in here are gettin' way outta hand.
Milenko
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this is pathetic.
I'm ending this on my end... continue your witchunt on yours if you like.
sorry ripsnort.
sorry I pissed you off. I was overeager to make you eat your own medicine because it is nasty stuff. the dose I gave you was 10 time worse than the one you gave me.
thing is rip I remember quite fondly last weekend flying an f6f covering your tbm's in a great scenario.
odd how people get so worked up over a game :)
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did we really need to read this sort of post? :(
cit if you said those things concerning the wheelchair please appologise.CV stuff i couldnt care less but that remark went way over the mark.
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]
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Cool! :cool:
Man! I leave for a few months and everything goes to hell in a handbasket!
"I'm takin my CV group and going home!"
:)
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Originally posted by Citabria:
this is pathetic.
I'm ending this on my end... continue your witchunt on yours if you like.
sorry ripsnort.
sorry I pissed you off. I was overeager to make you eat your own medicine because it is nasty stuff. the dose I gave you was 10 time worse than the one you gave me.
thing is rip I remember quite fondly last weekend flying an f6f covering your tbm's in a great scenario.
odd how people get so worked up over a game :)
Thats more like it thx Cit
Wheels and Rip both need to contacted in priv
10Bears
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we were atacking 45.had base down ..next thing i knew tg31 was sailing away..looked who was controling ship...cit had control of both and sailing 31 away from battle..requested 3 times for cit to release control,never got responce..i find this unexcusable from someone ranked #2..maybe need to rethink ranking...
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: sparks2 ]
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Jesus Christ Cit! Let the other kids play with the cv for awhile or go to your room!
CRASH
I'm sure glad I don't have kids.
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nah i deleted it
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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(hang wails) "The community is unhappy! Oh; woe; woe to the community! Our God's are Human!"
*sigh* It's ugly; unkind; unwarranted; unseemly.. all kindsa 'un's' can be applied.
DATA POINT: Spying and spies are part of the game. I could not begin to cataloge the number of times I've recieved unsolicited tactical info on what an opposing country is doing or about to do. I'd be lying thru my teeth if I said I had not acted on that info in some circumstances.. including tracking down and recapturing one of our 'missing' fleets..
DATA POINT: The various sides have been grabbing and hiding the other sides toys ever since it became possible to do so. I interpet all of the above as 'part of the game'.
DATA POINT: Some folks take this game a heluva lot more seriously than others do, and some of our players obviously need to take a vacation every once in awile, lest they begin to take themseves too seriously also.
DATA POINT: Had the FDB's pulled either the spy scam, or the resultant cross-country hop and boat snatch, we would be roundly villified here and on-line; we would have enjoyed immensely the resultant whining and bleeting cries of "foul play!!", and then gone on our merry way, finding other clever and unusual ways to go about busting virtual chops and kickin over yer virtual garbage cans, swiping yer virtual hubcaps, shootin yer virtual chutes and generally makin yer miserible too-serious virtual game lives interesting.
Frankly; my reaction to Rips intelligence coup was admiration... and my reaction to Cit's snatching of the knit boats was amazement... That took some balls.
So; we get a 'tit fer tat' goin, and as a result Cit and Rip get into a 'this 'n that' and then everybody gets horrified. A clue fer yah all... mayhaps we are overreacting to the prime incidents that set this thread in motion. A GAME gents. It's a GAME.
On the other hand.. personal attacks and wheelchair commentary are NOT what we woulda put on an FDB agenda; and I was pained and sorry to hear that that occured also. Most regrettable that part. I hope it ain't what it sounds like...
Rip.. you not very long ago pointed out that the player base could be counted on to exploit the game's features.. yah both proved that well enuff.
Lets all shake hands, shake our heads, and get on with the game, shall we?
Hang
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whups.. 'tard double posted
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Hangtime ]
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Originally posted by Citabria:
this is pathetic.
I'm ending this on my end... continue your witchunt on yours if you like.
sorry ripsnort.
sorry I pissed you off. I was overeager to make you eat your own medicine because it is nasty stuff. the dose I gave you was 10 time worse than the one you gave me.
thing is rip I remember quite fondly last weekend flying an f6f covering your tbm's in a great scenario.
odd how people get so worked up over a game :)
Someone is supprised that this inbred moron would stoop to the lowest?
LOL
where the hell have they been. This idiot would hack, warp, alt-f4 and anything else he could think of to achieve success or garner attention..Whats the big deal? That he would wreck the game to do so? If he could reset the server at the touch of a button he would do so 50 times a night...
He will be cheered by some and bood by others but I am amazed to read that some would be supprised...
This is his shtick...
Clitabria...Our hero.
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It's a dam game! shesssssssh,if this is taking up a majority of your time and thoughts.....sorry to say this, go to Sears and get a life. wouldn't hurt to grow up either :rolleyes:
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mmmm....mmmmm....mmm!
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LOL
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Nevermind, just realized that there is no way to even comment on this.
Sad that Geeman probably has more maturity then some people on this board.
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lock this thread please and throw away the fricken key.
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Should cost perk points to change countries.
Should cost perks points to control CV's.
Should cost perk points to have a second account.
Should cost perk points to......(fill in the blank)
Hm,I wonder if I have any yet??
AH punishment=limited to c202 for a couple of weeks, stripped of all perk points and thrashed with wet noodle at the con. Must wear a dunce hat at con at all times :D
[ 06-14-2001: Message edited by: 1776 ]
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I give this thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/user_ratings_5.gif) :D
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This thread should be renamed to the gathering of idiots
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Originally posted by milnko:
Gaming the game has always been the part of the online experience.
It's perfectly legal for Rip to have as many accounts as his wallet allows.
It's a game feature that Citabria has the "rank" to take control of the CVs, so it's legal.
Alot of gameplay issues are cheesy, (i.e. using the CV as a floating ackstar right off a base, ack should kill EVERYONE it hits, not just enemas). And a couple of gameplay features ruin the enjoyment for some, after all ya can't make everyone happy all the time.
I equate having separate accounts logged on to separate countries sorta like looking at a buddies cards in poker when he goes to the fridge for a beer.
I equate taking control of the CVs knowingly pissing off your countrymen to the kid that sez' these are my toys and U can't play with em.
And I equate anyone who sez they'll quit over this, to the kid in the sandbox who picks up his toy trucks, and sez "fine then! I'll just go home!"
The only person I really feel sorry for here is Geeman, seems kinda harsh to ruin a 5 year olds enjoyment over this, why didn't ya just switch him to the same country as yours Ripsnort?
Lastly folks, git a grip, the egos in here are gettin' way outta hand.
Milenko
Perfectly good point ! (and well said)
When *censored* take control of a bish CV it's legal and when it's a bish doing the same it's cheating ?
Grow up it's a game it's war it's not fair :)
As milenko said if the game autorise it it's a valid technic.
Or we have to charge the "LW JagGeshwader/RAF squadron in Niki we fly"
BTW rip I think you should re-activate geeman account but don't give his handle out !
Ruining a little boy fun is really something which should never happen neither in real life nor in a game .
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Move on.
I am totally against this kind of posts. If you have something against anybody, and want Htc. take care of it, take the appropiate steps: e-mail them with proofs of your claim. Privately. Posting this kind of things on the public forum serves nil to that purpose. In fact serves nil to any purpose apart from berating the "offender" and showing frustration. I deeply appreciate the ones that suffer this in silence, especially when things become personal. We (and I think I can speak for a majority here) DO NOT need this kind of "teacher, teacher look what xxxx has done to me!"
To top a disgusting post where somebody expose to the public his personal frustration about some players' attitudes, here comes the venting of 2 usually respected members of the community. Too bad when this can't be kept private even within both of you. :(
The attitudes and answers of the players involved are, both, not nice to the rest of users and, probably, gamey. And posting here does not do any good to any of us. Please, use your head not only to wear nice hairworks. Refrain from posting this kind of things here.
Thanks in advance.
Pepe
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Great tip guys im gonna get my second and third account to day and fly bish/nit/rook all the time :D
airguard
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Yawn...it's a game
Care factor 0 Mr Sulu
Tronsky
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Sorry to hear this Cit... I used to respect you :(
Spying as result of dishonorable CV-hiding is one thing, but action taken against the country one plays for is TOTALLY another thing.
Sad for bishes that one player so ashames them.
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Hi,
Erm... earlier I asked to be directed out of the kindergarten, to a more grown-up area. It seems you gave me the wrong directions, because I've ended up in a room full of snarling kids arguing about 'who broke my battleship'.
If it's any help, the door to the room said 'Warning: Over-blown Egos at large'.
I'd appreciate more accurate directions, next time. Thanks. ;)
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you guys pay 30 bucks a month for this stuff? :D
then you bash fighter ace kids and there zone for bein unreal. ;)
what a joke. its just a game and all cit did was to game the game. its not hbis fault that they designed it that way.
glad i stayed htoh (btw..thanks for that freebie ht) after trial but i think i'll wait for somethin else for pay for play or wait till online here gets down to 10 bucks like evreryone else.
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There are people out there that have themselves convinced anytime I post to a thread, it will get locked....
Any betting men out there that think because I posted this, that by the end of June 14th this thread will be locked?
(http://www.contrabandent.com/pez/cwm/cwm/uhoh.gif)
-SW
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Folks, this issue at my end has been resolved. Geemans account has been closed and Geeman and I will fly HTH when he feels the urge to fly...this is the best resolution for all concerned, since when he is in the main, he wants to fly against his dad rather than with me (Due to the TA experiences, he's used to Dad letting him shoot him down), this will quell any fears that Geeman may be feeding me information.
I'd like everyone to walk away from this thread, forgive all, including myself, for any shadow this may have cast on this fine community, and continue to support HTC and its product, they have listened and implemented so many of the Users suggestions, I cannot for the life of me see anyone leaving a product such as this with the fine customer support we get.
So, please, let us leave this ugly thread, forgive all involved, and carry one.
Thank you.
Cya in a few days.
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<S> Rip. Now all the rest involved do the same and, please, move on. This has been just too ugly.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Isn't "strat" a wonderful thing? Aren't the "strat" guys wonderful people?
lazs
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I, for one, am sorry that Hangtime is such a dipshit! Please forgive him, this poor idiot needs your kindness more than your hate.
SOB
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Enough guys, just a game...
Please
(http://www.masterlock.com/images/color_img/15.jpg)
this one...
Eagler
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I dont know about strat lazs but if your a "maximus respawning dweeb CV diving kamakazi quad cannon potatox10" then AH is the place for you.
Welcome home buddy.
Y
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Geemans account has been closed
I find it quite sad :(
Who are we to spoil the fun of a little boy ?
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Isn't "strat" a wonderful thing? Aren't the "strat" guys wonderful people?
...as compared to?... you? ;)
AKDejaVu
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All you ever hear out of flight simmers are "gawd, those quakers"..yada yada yada.
It amazes me reading thru this thread how many ppl think it's just dandy to game that game. Who's the real quakers here?
Rip, Cit, .....pftt...nevermind....Rip. .hit the ignore button.
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yeager... Who fly's quad cannon planes?
akdeja... well.... compared to... nothing really, just themselves. If you wish to compare to me... fine. I don't recall being the subject of 100 plus posts on how I gamed the game by furballing tho. My point is that the strat guys take things way to seriously. It allmost looks like a few of em broke down into tears. From their frustrated little calls in caps for 'HELP AT...' to their tyrades about furballers to their dishonest "strat" techneques to their pouty little attitudes... Sheesh, seems that to most of the "strat" guys... "strat" is nothing more than a way for them to game the game.
lazs