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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on August 15, 2004, 11:52:41 AM
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without a moments hestitation or screw up the Olympics forever!!
Iran's world judo champion Arash Miresmaeili refused to compete against an Israeli (http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/145144|top|08-15-2004::11:26|reuters.html)
"REAL REASON
But in Tehran, the Iranian National Olympic Committee said in a statement: "This is a general policy of our country to refrain from competing against athletes of the Zionist regime and Arash Miresmaeili has observed this policy."
If this is true, ban every team in every sport from Iran - freakin cheekboness
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babek whats the locals take on this? before crucifying this guy think about his mindset. hes competing for iran think about current religous govt of iran what if he loses?
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All differences are suppose to be set aside in peace time, and olympics..
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agreed hawklore. Olympics are about sport and competition. Not about polotics and religious ideals.
One would think a muslim would love the opertunity to defeat a jew. Arenty they supposed to fight the zionists on all fronts.
History has shown that the competition does wonders for deflating radical Ideals (see hitler) so maybe they know that a defeat in this is a defeat to islam itself.
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Olympics are higly political..
36..
Hitler and his racial BS
68...
Other race issues..
(http://www.marcharwitz.com/Images/blckpwr2.jpg)
80..
US Boycotts Moscow olympics due to afghanistan.
84...
USSR boycotts Los Angeles olympcis due to US boycott in 80..
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no need to kick him out. he will just loose if he doesnt show wont he?
that way he will be a LOOOSER and not just kicked out, and the history books will show that he lost.
egg on his face
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Originally posted by anonymous
babek whats the locals take on this? before crucifying this guy think about his mindset. hes competing for iran think about current religous govt of iran what if he loses?
Thought you were a Athiest anonymous?
What do you care about anyones religious beliefs?
Haaaa
OWN3D!!!!!!
:rofl
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Originally posted by AWMac
Thought you were a Athiest anonymous?
What do you care about anyones religious beliefs?
Haaaa
OWN3D!!!!!!
:rofl
you misunderstand. what im saying is the way govt of iran is right now this guy might be killed or imprisoned if he lost to israeli. he might find it hard to compete under such threat.
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Originally posted by anonymous
you misunderstand. what im saying is the way govt of iran is right now this guy might be killed or imprisoned if he lost to israeli. he might find it hard to compete under such threat.
thats taking it to far imo.... i seriously doubt they would do anything fysical to him if he lost.
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Originally posted by Eagler
If this is true, ban every team in every sport from Iran
I'm 100% with you on this. Same rules for everyone during
the Olympics, if u cant or dont want, bye!
R
Gh0stFT
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Originally posted by Nilsen
thats taking it to far imo.... i seriously doubt they would do anything fysical to him if he lost.
Nils, I have to disagree. There is some serious hatred going on there. To lose to an Isreali would be equal to hosting an all you can eat pork bbq in Iran.
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no need to ban him or anyone else. just enforce a blanket rule that doesn't even specifically have to even mention this incident.
your schedule of competition is set by the Olympic committee, if you don't show for a scheduled event they mark it as a loss. no Astrix explaining why, or footnotes on the champions win, not as a forfeit, just a simple loss. score it, move on and ignore it.
the bigger deal you make of it the more publicity it gets. I'd imagine that making some sort of statement is the point behind this stunt anyway. complete disinterest is the best way to fight that sort of thing.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Thought you were a Athiest anonymous?
What do you care about anyones religious beliefs?
Haaaa
OWN3D!!!!!!
:rofl
1. Atheists can recognize that other people are religious and that religion is something to be considered, like race and politics.
2. You can't say OWN3D!!!!!! for yourself.
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Right on, capt. apathy and GScholz -- if someone doesn't compete it's a forfeit and a loss; on with the games for those who do compete.
On the other hand, don't all nations wanting to participate in the Olympics certify as part of their entry that they agree to compete against ALL nations in the games or else they will not be accepted into the Olympics?
I wasn't aware that any major athletic event allowed participants to choose who they would or would not compete against.
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Originally posted by GScholz
So the Iranians, Americans, Russians and Germans should be banned from the Olympics for bringing politics to the games? Grow up please.
sorry, what have this to do with Americans, Russians or Germans ??? what Politics ?????
Its about -> Arash Miresmaeili, who refused to compete against an Israel
The Olympic should stay clear from politics, its competition
man against man no matter what race, culture or religion.
And if Mr. Arash Miresmaeili dont want to compete against
an Israeli, why is he AT ALL at the Olympics ?!?
no thank you.
R
Gh0stFT
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
sorry, what have this to do with Americans, Russians or Germans ??? what Politics ?????
History. Seriously, they stated just a few posts ago.
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Originally posted by hawker238
History. Seriously, they stated just a few posts ago.
then Iran should have followed our example and protested their hard on concerning a "Zionist regime" by boycotting the entire Olympics...
not showing up and refusing to compete
as for Hilter - why even mention that nutbag??
and the black power thing was misplaced as well and their message was lost to many and probably hurt more than it helped
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I'm not debating the effectiveness of these manuevers, eagler, I'm just saying political statements have been made in history for better or for worse. This probably isn't one for the better.
He'll probably just take a forfeit. Ban the whole Iranian team? That's not excessive.
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from the IOC website
Taking into account the global political reality in which sport and the Olympic Games exist, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) decided to revive the ancient concept of the Olympic Truce with the view to protecting, as far as possible, the interests of the athletes and sport in general, and to contribute to searching for peaceful and diplomatic solutions to the conflicts around the world.
Through this global and symbolic concept, the IOC aims to:
- raise awareness and encourage political leaders to act in favour of peace;
- mobilise youth for the promotion of the Olympic ideals;
- establish contacts between communities in conflict;
- offer humanitarian support in countries at war;
And more generally:
- to create a window of opportunities for dialogue, reconciliation and the resolution of conflicts.
The IOC undertakings for the Olympic Truce extend beyond the period of the Olympic Games and have led to the implementation of a series of activities in favour of peace through its National Olympic Committees.
Arash Miresmaeili just doesn't get it...
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
One would think a muslim would love the opertunity to defeat a jew. Arenty they supposed to fight the zionists on all fronts.
Yeah but they only like to "fight" civilians who are going about their daily lives.
A square fight man-to-man? Not their style.
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Why is this a big deal? He is acting out in a sports event in order to promote a poltical cause. Better this way than the Munich way...
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This one is easy to fix without everyone getting their panties in a twist.
He don't wanna compete... he loses the match.
I'm sure there's a gazillion "committee's" already hard at work figuring out how to complicate the issue.
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Originally posted by Eagler
as for Hilter - why even mention that nutbag??
Mr. Hilter, I almost forgot that poor bastard :D
(http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~brinkman/pictures/ScreenShots/ep12-01.jpg)
Landlady: Well it's the North Minehead bye-election. Mr Hilter's standing as the National Bocialist candidate. He's got wonderful plans for Minehead!
Johnson: Like what?
Landlady: Well, for a start he wants to annex Poland.
Johnson: Oh, North Minehead's Conservative, isn't it?
Landlady: Well, yes, he gets a lot of people at his rallies.
Johnson: Rallies?
LandLady: Well, they're Bocialist meetings down at the Axis Cafe on Rosedale Road.