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Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Karnak on August 18, 2004, 03:04:30 PM
SUPERFLY,

How's that bomber coming along?  I bet it looks great, whatever it is.

Then again it might be French and I don't think even you could make that look good.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Flyboy on August 18, 2004, 03:10:24 PM
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/frenchaces/avions/france/img/mb200_ph.jpg)

that is an ugly plane. :eek:
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Krusty on August 18, 2004, 03:21:06 PM
Not as ugly as this:

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/background/images/h197.jpg)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Urchin on August 18, 2004, 03:40:09 PM
Definately French.  

Or Italian, they made some spectacularly ugly bombers.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 18, 2004, 04:03:32 PM
G4M2? :D

(http://earth.endless.ne.jp/users/mac0115/G4M2.JPG)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: United on August 18, 2004, 04:33:32 PM
(http://www.worldwar2pilots.com/tbg-b24-459-pair.jpg)
:D
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Superfly on August 18, 2004, 04:37:23 PM
It is coming along fine.  I have just started working on the texture map for it.  Still a ways to go before it is screen shot material.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Furball on August 18, 2004, 04:38:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
It is coming along fine.  I have just started working on the texture map for it.  Still a ways to go before it is screen shot material.


Cool! bet its a B-29.

The other american bombers (B17, B26, TBM, SBD, A-20 and Boston) are feeling lonely.

can we have a clue mr.superfly please? :D
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Alpo on August 18, 2004, 04:41:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
It is coming along fine.  I have just started working on the texture map for it.  Still a ways to go before it is screen shot material.


How about a wire frame and let us color it in and we can quit bugging you ;)  

Lots of good candidates for a new buff out there for sure.  :aok
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Furball on August 18, 2004, 04:51:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Alpo
How about a wire frame


Hey! superfly sent me this wireframe model!

told you it was a B-29! isnt she a beauty! and it has a nuke too!



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1092865757_b29.jpg)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: TBolt A-10 on August 18, 2004, 05:04:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Hey! superfly sent me this wireframe model!

told you it was a B-29! isnt she a beauty! and it has a nuke too!



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1092865757_b29.jpg)


:rofl :rofl :lol

Guys,
Give Superfly a break.  It takes a long time to get the [size=15]B-29[/size] ready!  ;)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: United on August 18, 2004, 05:05:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TBolt A-10
:rofl :rofl :lol

Guys,
Give Superfly a break.  It takes a long time to get the [size=15]B-24[/size] ready!  ;)

:D
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 18, 2004, 05:08:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
It is coming along fine.  I have just started working on the texture map for it.  Still a ways to go before it is screen shot material.


It is a so large bomber, isn't it?
B-29 coming... :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 18, 2004, 05:17:07 PM
(http://www.confederateairforce.org/news/2003/he111.jpg)
 (http://oulu.ouka.fi/ppm/laukka/kuvat/7/6486.jpg) (http://www.100megspopup.com/photo4phood/webaircraft/c94he111-1a.jpg)
need i say more? :D
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: United on August 18, 2004, 05:23:15 PM
Yes skull.

I strongly believe that it is a B-24 given the clues of a Boulton Paul turret by Pyro (or at least I think it was Pyro that made the post)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Soulyss on August 18, 2004, 05:31:47 PM
from the hint pyro leaked a few weeks back I'm betting it's a B-24.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Karnak on August 18, 2004, 05:33:48 PM
Thanks for the update SUPERFLY.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 18, 2004, 05:36:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Cool! bet its a B-29.

The other american bombers (B17, B26, TBM, SBD, A-20 and Boston) are feeling lonely.

can we have a clue mr.superfly please? :D


Heh bet if its the 29 its heavily perked

I'd rather see the vader or some other bomber from some other country
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 18, 2004, 05:41:42 PM
damn it just what we need.  another american Heavy bomber.:(
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Cooley on August 18, 2004, 06:05:55 PM
Pretty sure B-24 was tops in production for US WW2 aircraft,
and a must  for any flight sim/game.
(was in a B24 squad in WB3) ;)

Though a Dornier, Pe2 or Betty would be fine by me,
the B24 will need to be included at some point
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: eh on August 18, 2004, 06:10:45 PM
I understand why it is taking so long. The A26 Invader requires special artwork and flight modelling. You have to get the flaps juuuuuuuuuust right, otherwise, it won't be very good in a low E turnfight.  

I can wait.   :aok
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 18, 2004, 06:31:26 PM
I forgot B-24 is also large bomber.

If coming new bomber is B-24, we can see B-24/P-38L group vs Ki-84 battle. :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: United on August 18, 2004, 06:31:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Cooley
Pretty sure B-24 was tops in production for US WW2 aircraft,
and a must  for any flight sim/game.
(was in a B24 squad in WB3) ;)

Though a Dornier, Pe2 or Betty would be fine by me,
the B24 will need to be included at some point

Im definately going to start a B-24 squad if it is added to the game.

But: back to topic.

A screenshot of the unskinned aircraft would be appreciated if possible, but I can wait for the near-finished product. :)

Also Mitsu, it would allow for some great scenarios to be created including what you said with the P-38/B-24 vs Ki84.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 18, 2004, 06:40:54 PM
I hope Ki-43 and early Ki-61 model for more great Pacific scenarios... :aok
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: TBolt A-10 on August 18, 2004, 06:51:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I'd rather see the vader or some other bomber from some other country


The Vader would be awesome.  But, we already have the Havoc.  So, I don't think the Vader would be added at this point.

I always figured that HTC avoided modelling the Vader early on so that they could offer the Air Warrior crowd something new.  :confused:  Just a guess, though.

Okay, okay...yea, it could be the B-24.  :cool:
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Krusty on August 18, 2004, 07:16:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
Definately French.  

Or Italian, they made some spectacularly ugly bombers.



Nope! Brit! Hanley Page Heyford!

I just with the 1/72 Matchbox model kit for it wasn't so damn hard to find :P


Also... B24 is the LAST plane that the planeset needs. Think about it, the performance is ONLY the same as the B-17. The defences are the same. The bomb load is only about 2k more. It's a WASTE to add the B24 when the b17 fills in nicely and when there are so many holes in LW bombers, IJN bombers, and RAF bombers... (forget Italian bombers, the Italians had crappy planes and weren't as active as the LW in most areas :P)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 18, 2004, 07:16:55 PM
SUPERFLY! Did you already work for Ki-61 Hi-Rez skin?
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: milnko on August 18, 2004, 07:20:26 PM
I don't normally fly BUFFS, but I'd ride the B-25 Mitchell if it's added.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: TBolt A-10 on August 18, 2004, 07:23:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by milnko
I don't normally fly BUFFS, but I'd ride the B-25 Mitchell if it's added.


off a carrier deck!  Yep.  :aok
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: MOIL on August 19, 2004, 12:33:25 AM
(http://www.megavision.net/pioneeraviation/gif/cub-after-c75.jpg)

Just needs some gondolas
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Mitsu on August 19, 2004, 04:22:30 AM
Imagine it! ;)

(http://www.takumaru.com/home/original/frank.JPG)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Furball on August 19, 2004, 04:53:24 AM
Would rather have a Tu-2 or Pe-2.


(or wishful thinking: a Halifax III in 'Friday the 13th' markings, or DeHavilland Mosquito B.35)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Nilsen on August 19, 2004, 05:14:35 AM
i would just be happy that some new planes are comming, whatever it is :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: slimm50 on August 19, 2004, 09:31:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mitsu
I forgot B-24 is also large bomber.

If coming new bomber is B-24, we can see B-24/P-38L group vs Ki-84 battle. :)

Now THAT would be cool:cool:
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Pyro on August 19, 2004, 10:11:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by United
Yes skull.

I strongly believe that it is a B-24 given the clues of a Boulton Paul turret by Pyro (or at least I think it was Pyro that made the post)


That was a tongue in cheek comment regarding the Defiant.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Soulyss on August 19, 2004, 10:12:32 AM
well poo....
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Charon on August 19, 2004, 10:38:14 AM
LOL Pyro, I missed that B-24 thread. I'm still hoping for the Amiot 143M for when you guys model leaflet raids.

Scenario: A Bish Amiot 143m putters over Knight airfield. All in tower get the following popup: "Your cause is lost Knights. While you take part in your brave but hopless vulches and gangbangs, getting sent to the tower with horrible regularity, the Rooks are romancing your sheep in occupied territority. Defect to Bishop and right the wrong. You will not be harmed if you show this pass in the maproom."

Charon
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Dux on August 19, 2004, 11:32:54 AM
Hey Superfly,
I'd be really interested in seeing you guys post a wireframed, unskinned model someday, just so people could get an idea of how much work goes into the model itself. Almost everyone is familiar with skins now. :)



ps. Maybe don't spoil the surprise with the one you're working on now, but an older model would be great to see. :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: TBolt A-10 on August 19, 2004, 12:07:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dux
ps. Maybe don't spoil the surprise with the one you're working on now, but an older model would be great to see. :)


No..no...nooooo...by all means, please spoil the surprise... :D

Dux has a point.  It would be nice to see the basic model beneath the finished product.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Furball on August 19, 2004, 01:03:10 PM
what, is the one i posted not good enough?!

:(
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Furball on August 19, 2004, 01:06:28 PM
wow check this out!!!!

(http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/180604/grab0008.jpg)
from il2
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Krusty on August 19, 2004, 01:38:49 PM
I'd also love to see a B-25... Only I'm torn... the -J would be nice for the glass nose and level bombing, but the solid nose 8-guns (with 4 more on the sides) would REALLY bring this thing into the fore-front for town leveling, I would think.

The only problem is you can't make that a weapons selection option, you have to model 2 entirely different planes (which we will only get 1 of at any given time)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Karnak on August 19, 2004, 01:57:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
The only problem is you can't make that a weapons selection option, you have to model 2 entirely different planes (which we will only get 1 of at any given time)

It's not hopeless.  We got the Boston Mk III and the A-20G in the same release.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Alpo on August 19, 2004, 01:59:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
what, is the one i posted not good enough?!

:(


I liked it Furball, but you know this crowd... you can never please them ;)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Odee on August 19, 2004, 02:10:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by eh
I understand why it is taking so long. The A26 Invader requires special artwork and flight modelling. You have to get the flaps juuuuuuuuuust right, otherwise, it won't be very good in a low E turnfight.  

I can wait.   :aok


I am with you on this.... :cool:  

 Douglas Invader would be ideal for us UBER ALLIES to have. :aok
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: hubsonfire on August 19, 2004, 03:00:07 PM
"Nook"

:rofl

Great work furball, but I'm curious. What application did you use to render the *ahem* wireframe? :D

FWIW, Charon's troll on the Defiant (and Pyro's follow up comments) remain one of the best executed I've ever seen. I personally wet my flightsuit 3 times (a new record, i might add).

Cheers,
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Zanth on August 20, 2004, 02:34:20 PM
I am hoping for a patch before the weekend so we can play with our first new toys in quite a while.  I think that would improve the overall mood somewhat.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Krusty on August 20, 2004, 02:57:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
It's not hopeless.  We got the Boston Mk III and the A-20G in the same release.


But we already know we got the Ki, so we only get 1 more plane (2 planes, 1 vehicle), so it can't be both :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Howitzer on August 20, 2004, 03:24:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Hey! superfly sent me this wireframe model!

told you it was a B-29! isnt she a beauty! and it has a nuke too!



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1092865757_b29.jpg)



:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

This is awesome furball!!!  Saw this 15 minutes ago and still laughing!  
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Karnak on August 20, 2004, 03:41:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
But we already know we got the Ki, so we only get 1 more plane (2 planes, 1 vehicle), so it can't be both :)

Not this time, but we knew that before the Ki-84 was shown.  Pyro said "A fighter, a bomber and a tank".

But is it is not the B-25 this time, then when the B-25 is added they may release two at the same time.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: AaronM2 on August 20, 2004, 04:59:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
wow check this out!!!!

(http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/180604/grab0008.jpg)
from il2


(http://www.freewebs.com/357th/Drool.gif)

[*Drool*] i want :D plz let that be it [*Drool] Plz Give me a hint is it b-29
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Nilsen on August 20, 2004, 05:01:11 PM
i know everyone will disagree with me, but id like the old bomber aiming system back. loved buffs then :)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: AaronM2 on August 20, 2004, 07:03:26 PM
tobad they wont let us have nook if they gave us B-29 im praying :drool:
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: dtango on August 20, 2004, 10:05:18 PM
It looks very nice indeed - what there is of it :D!  That's all I have to say about that!

Tango, XO
412th FS Braunco Mustangs
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Kaz on August 21, 2004, 09:54:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by B17Skull12
(http://www.confederateairforce.org/news/2003/he111.jpg)
 (http://oulu.ouka.fi/ppm/laukka/kuvat/7/6486.jpg) (http://www.100megspopup.com/photo4phood/webaircraft/c94he111-1a.jpg)
need i say more? :D


Hope it's the HE111 or some bomber from a country other than the USA, already have the B17s, B26s. Not that I mind a US bomber, just that the other countries are lacking in this area.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: Citabria on August 21, 2004, 01:32:35 PM
if its the b-24 I am going to fly nothing else. :)

I love that plane.

if its the pb4y2 I am going to fall out of my chair :D

hope its not some lame axis or russian 2000 lb bombload no decent defensive guns gadget lamebuffwagon.

we need heavily defended heavy bomb load fast high alt mean machine.
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: AaronM2 on August 21, 2004, 01:52:31 PM
yep u just said every thing hehe that matches up with the b-29 fast big bomb load hi alt flyer Man your good ;)
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: vorticon on August 21, 2004, 02:58:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
wow check this out!!!!

(http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/devupdate/180604/grab0008.jpg)
from il2


what a truly ugly plane...
Title: SUPERFLY, how's that bomber coming?
Post by: United on August 21, 2004, 09:51:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Citabria
if its the b-24 I am going to fly nothing else. :)

I love that plane.

if its the pb4y2 I am going to fall out of my chair :D

hope its not some lame axis or russian 2000 lb bombload no decent defensive guns gadget lamebuffwagon.

we need heavily defended heavy bomb load fast high alt mean machine.

Agreed, but Id much rather have a B-24J than a PB4Y.  But, as of now, anything new sounds good. :D