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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Roscoroo on August 19, 2004, 03:40:19 AM
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Ok ive been pulling may hair out for 3 days now ... and its time for some master input .....
Offline game plays fine ...
h2h or online it plays for a little bit then locks up in game (all i see is something that looks like a screenshot and the sound keeps running ( but not as a loop )
I was getting a black screen and the voice chat would continue
this was with the 4.3 cats
so i switched drivers to the 4.7 cats (now i have the screen shot looking type lock up )
System ..
Asus A7n8x-e deluxe
Amd 2400+ clocked @ 2.0 ghz (12 x 166)
256 x 2 ddr 2700
80 gig WD set up on ide fresh format w/98se sp1.5
Fix it utilities AV program (same as all my other pc's and they work fine ) same security settings ect .. (everything is clean )
video card
Crucial Radeon 9600pro 128mb (standard clocking)
monitor set at 800x600 32 bit 85hz
ingame video settings
800x600 32bit optimal refresh 512 textures
everything at default sliders @ 1/2 way
no preload in video or memory .
Any idea's guys ... the freeze happens around the 1st 5-10 mins .
Temps are all ok 45-49c
all my other games are working fine ...
the only thing i havent done is a reinstall (i used my settings folder from my other pc i wonder if thats a problem ??)
I'll post up the dxdiag here too ... and try a reinstall
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Time of this report: 8/19/2004, 01:11:46
Machine name: make something up
Operating System: Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222) A
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: n/a
System Model: n/a
BIOS: n/a
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 0MB used, 1536MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 4.09.0000.0902 32bit
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: FIC A96P RADEON 9600 PRO 128M
Manufacturer: ATI Tech. - Enhanced
Chip type: RADEON 9600 Series (AP) Rev 0
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_9A201509&REV_00\00F000
Display Memory: 127.0 MB
Current Mode: 800 x 600 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ATI2DRAG.DRV
Driver Version: 4.14.0001.9138 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/12/2004 21:29:30, 95456 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: *vdd,*vflatd
Mini VDD: ATI2VXAG.VXD
Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-5A76-21BAA1C2C935}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4150
SubSys ID: 0x9A201509
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Sound Devices
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Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: NVAX\NFORCE_VAD\0000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0362.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 8/13/2003 09:45:00, 311552 bytes
Other Files: nvapu.sys
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0x0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run
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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: nvapu.sys
Driver Version: 6.14.0362.0000 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 8/13/2003 09:45:00, 311552 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x0
Format Flags: 0x0
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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\gm.dls
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: Enabled
Ports: NVIDIA(R) Kernel Synthesizer, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
MIDI Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
NVIDIA(R) DLS Synthesizer, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Roland MPU-401, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
Roland MPU-401, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Logitech WingMan Extreme Digital 3D (USB)
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: Yes
Registry: OK
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USB Devices
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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.09.0000.0900)
DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK
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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Marvell Gigabit Ethernet Adapter -
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM2
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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
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Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s
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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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DirectX Components
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ddraw16.dll: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 28496 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 4.87.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 24092 bytes
ddraw.vxd: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 30469 bytes
ddhelp.exe: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 32768 bytes
dxapi.sys: 4.87.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 2170 bytes
d3d8.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1188864 bytes
d3d9.dll: 4.09.0000.0902 English Final Retail 5/30/2003 09:00:02 1629184 bytes
d3dim.dll: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 625690 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 4.09.0000.0902 English Final Retail 5/30/2003 09:00:02 892416 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 589852 bytes
d3drm.dll: 4.06.0002.0436 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 446464 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 4.06.0002.0436 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 118784 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.0002.0436 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 102400 bytes
dplay.dll: 4.03.0000.1096 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 57344 bytes
dplayx.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 229376 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 36864 bytes
dpwsock.dll: 4.03.0000.1096 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 40960 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 65536 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 40960 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 3/24/2003 09:00:02 28672 bytes
dpnet.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 3/24/2003 09:00:02 376832 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 3/24/2003 09:00:02 16384 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 16384 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 208896 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 86016 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 122880 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 32768 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 4.09.0000.0901 English Final Retail 3/24/2003 09:00:02 45056 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 4.09.0000.0901 English Final Retail 3/24/2003 09:00:02 73728 bytes
dpserial.dll: 4.03.0000.1096 English Final Retail 4/23/1999 22:22:00 49152 bytes
dinput.dll: 4.08.0001.0901 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 172032 bytes
dinput8.dll: 4.08.0001.0901 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 192512 bytes
dinput.vxd: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 10874 bytes
dimap.dll: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 94208 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 397312 bytes
vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 33882 bytes
joyhid.vxd: 4.88.0001.0881 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 13067 bytes
joy.cpl: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 442368 bytes
gcdef.dll: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 491520 bytes
gchand.dll: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 6656 bytes
pid.dll: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 40960 bytes
gameenum.sys: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 9/9/1999 07:00:00 10512 bytes
hidgame.sys: 4.07.0000.0700 English Final Retail 11/27/1999 07:00:00 8880 bytes
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msjstick.drv: 4.08.0001.0881 English Final Retail 10/30/2001 08:10:00 2352 bytes
dsound.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 457728 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 1331200 bytes
dsound.vxd: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 47664 bytes
dswave.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 17920 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 186880 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 68096 bytes
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dmloader.dll: 4.09.0000.0900 English Final Retail 12/12/2002 00:14:32 32768 bytes
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dxdiagn.dll: 4.09.0000.0902 English Final Retail 5/30/2003 09:00:02 1638400 bytes
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oh well that enough for now ill ... if ya need more ill email it to ya Skuzzy or anyone else that thinks they may have the anser
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- try disabling the onboard sound in bios and do without...
- run the tests before dumping the dxdiag... probably doesnt change much..
- how do you connect to the internet? maybe the network device / modem got a problem.. that wouldnt show in the non internet games... does ah2 run in offline mode without problems?
- i have the same mb, and i had problems with my memory you tried running a memtest for 2 hours or so?
- try to install directx 9c
thats what i can think off. i somehow doubt that its the memory because you run it at 166 mhz, at least i assume that since you run the cpu at that clock. It is possible to run cpu and memory at diffrent speeds, so verify that its running at 166 & with timings by SPD or more conservative.
Have you tried running a cpu stress test?
maybe a problem on the voltage supplied by the psu, whats the data off your PSU?
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ok its gotta be in the video or sound drivers ...
when i 1st started i used the stock video drivers from the cd
they were dated early 2003
cpu timing was at the main boards default setting
which was 15 x 133 (2.0ghz) temps were running alittle high 54c while gaming and it wasnt totally stable
i wasnt getting the lock up with them .
but I had "Black dar bars and icons on the clipboard map .
So i switched to the drivers from my 9550 cards cd
it fixed the dar bar colours ( i think these are 4.3 cats )
but i was getting a black out screen in the game after 15 mins or so
heres were i switched the cpu timings to 12 x 166 (2.0 ghz)
this setting has better temps 46c - 49c while loaded
im still getting the black out screen and the sound continues in the game like normal even the voice chat was continuing ...
so i get the 4.7 cats and install them -----------
run fit it utilities tests on the pc hardware/ software and every thing still checks out ...
i had it over to the Mrs Roo andd she plays generals zero hour for a couple of hours with no problems (everything turned up to max )
in AH2 its now getting that screen shot looking freeze up with the sound looping i think ... (every thing is frozen and i have to hard boot)
Ive checked for bios / mb updates and i have all the current stuff
ive also deleated and reinstalled ah2 fresh with no old files or settings used in it . its still freezing .
ive checked the voltage and its right were it should be and stable very little fluxuation
im going to try the sound disable and see if that will isolate it futher but i think its in the video drivers ...
Its not a connection problem as far as i know cause ive jumped on my old gamer and it plays sweet (like always) 800 kbps avg dsl connect no firewall .
(i didnt have this problem on my a7n8x-x deluxe machine but it was running a ti4600 video card and det drivers )
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Rosco,
You might try another NIC. My Marvell failed and I had packet loss with the Nvidia LAN. Working fine with old Intel Pro 100 NIC.
Temp note. I had an A7n8x DLX with a third party temp monitor that matched MB Monitor's temps. I installed this board when it failed and my MB Monitor temps (no third party) went up 10 deg C. I reinstalled the waterblock with Artic Silver 5 and temps were still higher. My tower is inside a desk bay, and I don't like aircon so I quit worrying bout it as it runs stable.
Nvidia driver note. I am using the 4.24 (4.27 out last month). Make sure you aren't using the Nvidia IDE drviver.
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This sure sounds heat related to me. You should know due to the enormous floating point computations for the flight model that a good flight simulator (i.e running very tight) will heat up a CPU pretty quickly.
Easy to test. Open the case, blow a fan at the motherboard. Big fan.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
This sure sounds heat related to me. You should know due to the enormous floating point computations for the flight model that a good flight simulator (i.e running very tight) will heat up a CPU pretty quickly.
Easy to test. Open the case, blow a fan at the motherboard. Big fan.
Of course that is a possibility Skuzzy, but something was changed in this version of the A7N8X and Motherboard Monitor and the BIOS do not have access to the diode temp sensor. Everyone is getting readings up to 10 deg C higher than other versions of this board making 46-49 C a fairly conservative temp reading unless he is getting it from a reliable third party source.
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I dont think heat is the issue
as always i check bolth the bios monitored heat temp along with the asus probe ... and i ran out to the race car trailer and grabbed my infrared temp tester and checked the heat sink just to be shure . (it was reading 2c less then what the bios was reading... thats about normal for that test )
along with the fact that i already have the side case off and a big fan curcalating the air ... my stack is under the desk 6 in off the floor on a wood case so the intake fan vent pulls the coolest air .
I think if it was over heating When i played Zero hour and did the system load tests it would of over temped then ..
i think the nic is ok i was playing fine with the stock video drivers
(I just had the dar bar colour issue and higher temps from the 15x133 clocking ) It seams to like the 12 x 166 no more little problems with program stability . its just ah2 that has the problem .
right now im going to try to mess with the sound acceleration and see if that may be the conflict ... and then go back to the video drivers (if worse comes to worse i'll put my 9550 video card in and try that with its stock drivers 4.3's ) I just hate disabling my old trusty gamer cause i can always play on that pc .
Im still open for anymore idea's, tweeks , sheep , hammers, and or what ever . Thanks guys
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Woooo hooo think ive got it fixed (i hope )
Sound excelleration was the trick ... i lowered it on notch from full and played for an hour with no lock ups or any other problems as of yet .. more testing as i get time