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Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: lazs2 on August 19, 2004, 12:41:18 PM
Just bought one of these.... http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/hist_m48/index.htm

Why?   because I still can.   neener neener neener...

got 1000 rounds of 8mm mauser ammo for $90 for too..

lazs
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 19, 2004, 12:48:51 PM
(http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/blackarrow/mitchellsales04.jpg)
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: Curval on August 19, 2004, 12:52:50 PM
The trash at the dump is very frightened I'm sure.;)
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 19, 2004, 12:52:52 PM
Hey that looks awesome lazs. :)
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Post by: lazs2 on August 19, 2004, 12:54:11 PM
women love big guns...

well... except for dried up jewish politician ones in Ca.  that is...

take em out shooting and they are yours.

lazs
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: beet1e on August 19, 2004, 01:54:01 PM
I'm going to buy a pint of decent beer tonight. Why? Because I still can.

Ner-ner-ne-ner-ner
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Post by: Lizking on August 19, 2004, 01:57:38 PM
If she pulled the trigger, it would twist her into a corkscrew.
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Post by: bustr on August 19, 2004, 02:02:25 PM
lazs2, my girlfreind bought me one for last Christmas. I cast my own 8mm lead bullets and reload. Do the same for my Enfeilds No.4 Mk1 and Mk2. :)
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Post by: sling322 on August 19, 2004, 02:05:22 PM
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Originally posted by beet1e
I'm going to buy a pint of decent beer tonight. Why? Because I still can.

Ner-ner-ne-ner-ner



And I am gonna pour me a pint of excellent beer tonight.  Why?  Because I made it.   So what was your point again?
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: Nilsen on August 19, 2004, 02:12:21 PM
nice pistol, but the woman is great :aok
Title: Re: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 19, 2004, 03:14:23 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Just bought one of these.... http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/hist_m48/index.htm

Why?   because I still can.   neener neener neener...

got 1000 rounds of 8mm mauser ammo for $90 for too..

lazs


mmm you probably bought it because you feel that the power associated with owning firearms makes up for deficiencys in the rest of your life ie wealth, social standing, respect of peers etc, you might of course use firearms as a fetish due to problems of a sexual nature - ie lack of libido, erectile dysfunction etc - owning a
"powerful" weapon may allow and elderly man to once again feel that he has the vigour and strength of a youth long gone.
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: cpxxx on August 19, 2004, 03:31:26 PM
Actually Lazs, Beetle and Curval could buy a Mauser in Britain if they were so inclined. But as we know they are not so inclined.

I think I could probably buy one here in Ireland too. I recently tried out a heavy Swedish Mauser which was a prize in a shootiing competition. Gawd it was heavy and very loooong.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on August 19, 2004, 04:27:29 PM
Rednecks around the world, UNITE!

(Does Lazs know about the FHRA and other Scandanavian drag racing associations?)
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Post by: XtrmeJ on August 19, 2004, 04:35:16 PM
Looks kinda like a Barret.
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Post by: lazs2 on August 19, 2004, 05:04:46 PM
scrade.... the fact that you are afraid of firearms is probly why you try to make it seem that they are a bad thing and that they somehow make up for some deficiency in life.   I feel pretty fortunate in the way my life and health are going... I hope you feel the same.   If you could get over your jealousy and fear of firearms you would probly be happier tho.

I just thought that it was a pretty decent price (less than $300) for an unfired piece of history with all the accessories including  bayonet and cleaning kit etc..  1000 rounds of mauser ammo is cheap and there are plenty of places to shoot it.

Any country where you can buy and own such a gun for this price iand have places to shoot it is indeed fortunate.

lazs
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: cpxxx on August 19, 2004, 05:10:16 PM
Gscholz, Ah the Steyr AUG, the only way I could get my hands on one of those would be too re enlist. But I'm too old.
 
Sorry couldn't get the original pic to work then deleted the post just as Gscholz quoted it. Ah confusion!!!!!!!!!!!

There are shooting clubs but I'm not sure what you mean by 'practical'?

These guys are fairly practical:

(http://www.21infantry.com/images/equipment.jpg)

I used to serve in the 20th Battalion. Wish we had all that equipment back then. Standard issue was Lee Enfield No 4 and we had to buy surplus combat uniforms. I wore a combo of British and American. One officer had a surplus US army M43 jackey complete with US ARMY tags and the patch of the Big Red 1.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 19, 2004, 05:11:09 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
You don't have practical shooting clubs in Ireland?


are you in any of those pictures GS?
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Post by: VOR on August 19, 2004, 05:13:16 PM
Nice rifle, lazs! Congrats. By the way, is the ammo you mentioned Turkish surplus? That price is hard to beat. What's the source?
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Post by: lazs2 on August 19, 2004, 05:16:11 PM
Its czech I think.. late production from ammoman.com but it is "mildly corrosive"... means you gotta clean the rifle after you shoot it.

lazs
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Post by: VOR on August 19, 2004, 05:20:56 PM
Thanks for the link. Corrosive ammo is something I'm used to dealing with, so no problem. I flush warm, soapy water down the breech with a turkey baster several times then clean/dry/oil. Works pretty well for me. (7.62x54R, .303 Brit, 8mm Mauser)
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Post by: VOR on August 19, 2004, 05:26:06 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
Its czech I think.. late production from ammoman.com but it is "mildly corrosive"... means you gotta clean the rifle after you shoot it.

lazs


It's Yugo ammo. I've used it in the past and it fires just fine, but the bright red sealant (whatever it is) around the primer will leave a bright red ring around your firing pin hole that's difficult to remove without alot of scrubbing. That bothered me for some reason. Yeah, I know, I know. :D
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Post by: cpxxx on August 19, 2004, 05:44:11 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
http://www.ipsc.org


When did you serve, right after WWII?


Ah I see, no there is no branch.

WW2? :lol :lol  No in the eighties. But we were equipped like a WW2 unit. Even the uniform had a closed collar, button flies on the trousers. WW2 British helmets. 1937 pattern web equipment, Lee Enfield no 4's, Bren Guns etc. There was no money for new uniforms. Having said that my unit rarely used the 303 . We worked alonside the the regular army and used the FN FAL and wore similar equipment bought by ourselves.  I have some photos that look like they were taken in WW2.
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Post by: kevykev56 on August 19, 2004, 07:22:56 PM
Lazs2 Almost hate to show you this but here goes.


http://www.dealerease.net/catalog/product.asp?pid=1005549&ret_id=140211 (http://www.dealerease.net/catalog/product.asp?pid=1005549&ret_id=140211)


and here is another dealer.

http://www.gunsnammo.com/ (http://www.gunsnammo.com/)


I have over 20 WW2 era rifles. I love them all equally. They are a peice of history that I will be able to hold on for a while until I pass them on to my kids. I can tell you that the Mitchell mausers are some of the best I have ever seen as far as conditon. So dont feel bad on the price. Not sure if its your first Curio & Relic firearm but if it is it wont be your last, they are addictive.

RHIN0
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Post by: TPIguy on August 19, 2004, 08:19:38 PM
Nice M48 there Laz. I've got a 24/47 mauser I bought from AIM. Its a sweet shooter, very nice trigger for a surplus gun.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Yugoslavian_VZ24_47_8mm_Mauser_Package.html

I buy alot of guns from these guys, great service and always a good price.

heres a pic of my mauser. Its (currently) my favorite bolt action. (http://home.mpinet.net/~mbt/guns/2447.JPG)

I bought some of the 1942 turk surplus ammo, its not the most accurate, but 700 rounds was only $40 and it comes on stripper clips. The clips are so nice to have I had to buy some for my mosins and SKS's.

I love C&R guns, if I had more money I'd have a huge collection.
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Post by: lazs2 on August 19, 2004, 10:04:30 PM
yep.. you can get em cheaper but the mitchels are really nice.   I coulda got a shooter for less but this thing was so mint and packaged so well I suckered for it.

I heard bad things about the turkish ammo so steered clear.... anjy problems?

  I have a SMLE a Garand and this and a model 97 trench gun winchester 12 guage... my son bought me a $75 nagant.  fun to shoot these old WWII guns but gotta say... the Garand is the most fun.

lazs
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: anonymous on August 19, 2004, 10:14:12 PM
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Gscholz, Ah the Steyr AUG, the only way I could get my hands on one of those would be too re enlist. But I'm too old.
 
Sorry couldn't get the original pic to work then deleted the post just as Gscholz quoted it. Ah confusion!!!!!!!!!!!

There are shooting clubs but I'm not sure what you mean by 'practical'?

These guys are fairly practical:

(http://www.21infantry.com/images/equipment.jpg)

I used to serve in the 20th Battalion. Wish we had all that equipment back then. Standard issue was Lee Enfield No 4 and we had to buy surplus combat uniforms. I wore a combo of British and American. One officer had a surplus US army M43 jackey complete with US ARMY tags and the patch of the Big Red 1.


talk about the evil side of lobbying in the military. i see the auto weapons guys somehow managed to get belted rounds inserted in that photo as "standard load" for a rifle packer with NO MENTION of beers owed back home for all the extra weight. dastardly machinegunners-theyll stab ya in the back and screw your woman while you bleed out on the floor of the church. :)
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Post by: anonymous on August 19, 2004, 10:18:09 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
(http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/blackarrow/mitchellsales04.jpg)


does her face say "i am diiiiiiiiirty" or what? that combined with the overall shorts. oh baby. help me buy a ticket to damnation.
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Post by: kevykev56 on August 19, 2004, 11:13:42 PM
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I heard bad things about the turkish ammo so steered clear.... anjy problems?



I have around 3000 rounds of Turk 8mm. I have 42,45, and even have over 1000 rounds of the dreaded 47 turk. I have never had a problem with any of them. Never had a FTF with any of it. And in my 98/22s and Turks its very accurate. Buy it while its cheap.


Really like the look of the Armalite .50 I am counting the days until I can get one.



RHIN0
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Post by: TPIguy on August 20, 2004, 05:16:44 AM
My turk is all 1942, overall I think I got a crappy batch. 1 in about 20 rounds won't chamber. Also about 2/3's of em don't have the bullets pressed in strait.

I sorted out the ones that looked good and managed to shoot  1" and 1.25" groups @ 50 yards off a sandbag. I'll probibly yank the bullets out of the rest and reload them with something else. If I ever buy reloading gear.

I think the problem with the turk is the quality varries greatly. Some people love it, others are afraid to even shoot it. If you can inspect the batch you're buying its a great deal. Otherwise... its a crapshoot.


Also, I know $400-500 is about the going rate for an all matching german K98. So, you're price on the bosnian probibly wasn't too bad.

The problem with these old guns is there are simply too damn many of em. I've got 2 mosins and i need about 20 more to round out my collection. I've only got 1 mauser, so that means I need about 50 more.

If I had the money to buy them all I'd have to move into a bigger place to store them.
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Post by: cpxxx on August 20, 2004, 09:03:13 AM
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Originally posted by anonymous
talk about the evil side of lobbying in the military. i see the auto weapons guys somehow managed to get belted rounds inserted in that photo as "standard load" for a rifle packer with NO MENTION of beers owed back home for all the extra weight. dastardly machinegunners-theyll stab ya in the back and screw your woman while you bleed out on the floor of the church. :)


It's worse than that anonymous. The Bren LMG is still standard issue in the reserves too. Many is the time I lumped a box of Bren magazines over hill and bog. At least belted rounds can be worn. Glad I wasn't in the mortar section!!!  At least there is one consolation the Machine gunners always attract mortar fire. :eek:

And Gscholz, note that the 'Norwegian' shirt is standard issue. Definitely the height of military fashion.  Our reserves could refight WW2: Bren versus MG34. :D
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Post by: Curval on August 20, 2004, 09:05:44 AM
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Originally posted by cpxxx
It's worse than that anonymous. The Bren LMG is still standard issue in the reserves too. Many is the time I lumped a box of Bren magazines over hill and bog. At least belted rounds can be worn. Glad I wasn't in the mortar section!!!

And Gscholz, note that the 'Norwegian' shirt is standard issue. Definitely the height of military fashion.  Our reserves could refight WW2: Bren versus MG34. :D


Even we had GPMGs, here in Bermuda.  :confused:
Title: curval and beetle etc....
Post by: lazs2 on August 20, 2004, 09:32:28 AM
thanks for info on the turkis stuff... I have a thousnad rounds of the yugo stuff and won't shoot the mauser much anyway.

as for the aug... we can get those here in semi auto version for about $700.   They feel really wierd to me... I don't really want one at this time. but... It would be nice to know that I could allways buy one if I wanted.

The .50 is banned here in California.   That is incrementalism at work... was a joint effort byu fienstein boxer and the gray davis.   If you don't think kerrie can hurt you... look what happened to California under the reingn of the gray one.

kerrie is a gray davis clone.

lazs
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Post by: kevykev56 on August 20, 2004, 10:08:27 AM
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The .50 is banned here in California. That is incrementalism at work... was a joint effort byu fienstein boxer and the gray davis. If you don't think kerrie can hurt you... look what happened to California under the reingn of the gray one.



Wow I didnt know that.  So where do they draw the line in the sand? I recently read an article where they are working on building a 20mm sniper rifle to replace the .50 Currently it has too much recoil. But they are working on it :D. So does that mean you cant even use a .50 muzzle loader? Cali has some strange rules. I lived near Sac for 4 years and dont ever want to go back. I will stay in the southeast where gun ownership is accepted.

Killin babies legal, .50cal ownership illegal....wow what a world we live in.


RHIN0
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Post by: lazs2 on August 20, 2004, 10:30:42 AM
the .50 bmg is illegal.  It is because... well... who knows?  but... the fear was that there would be a rash of assinations.  No kidding... that was the mantra?  

And why would a benevolent government fear assaination?  Who knows? and if armed citizens can't defend against tyranny anyway... then what is the point of taking their guns away?

lazs
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Post by: mietla on August 20, 2004, 01:33:54 PM
Where did you get it lazs? I called them up, but they directed me to some local store in Campbell.

Did you have to do the same?
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Post by: lazs2 on August 20, 2004, 02:27:44 PM
I have a guy who is an ffl dealer so we do "kitchen table sales"  he comes to my house.   I have a gun safe so don't have to buy the ridiculous "gun locks" every time I buy a gun from him.

lazs
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Post by: Reschke on August 20, 2004, 02:38:45 PM
I'd like to help her shoot that rifle. Maybe she needs a little help from the rear to get her alignment straightened out as she sights down that long barrel to the target.
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Post by: TPIguy on August 20, 2004, 09:16:59 PM
Hey Mietla, if you're interested in buying a few old guns get an 03 FFL. You can have em shipped strait to you, no hassling with x-fer to a local dealer. Its only $30 for 3 years. Even if you only buy a couple of guns you saved $.
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Post by: kevykev56 on August 21, 2004, 02:13:51 AM
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Hey Mietla, if you're interested in buying a few old guns get an 03 FFL. You can have em shipped strait to you, no hassling with x-fer to a local dealer. Its only $30 for 3 years. Even if you only buy a couple of guns you saved $.



LOL Yeah right. The year previous to my 03FFL I spent $350 on guns. In the year since I have had this thing I have spent well over 3k on guns. It surely hasnt saved me money. Im only spending more on guns. Decided it is more of an investment really than it is a purchase. Its not like they are getting any cheaper.


But the 03 FFL is the way to go if your into these. Its easy providing you dont have a criminal history or mental problems. It took me about 1 month from start to finish before the ATF sent my FFL out. You also get discounts on shooting supplies from distributors.

Here is a link that will tell you more about how to get one.



C&R FFL (http://www.fo.com/firearms/sgn-cr.htm)


RHIN0