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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on August 19, 2004, 12:49:24 PM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/writers/08/19/iraq/index.html?cnn=yes
It seems that some of the Iraqi athletes are unhappy with being featured in a Bush campaign ad.
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more and more I think Sadam is the answer. Let the people have him back.
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Yep, they deserve him.
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You guys can not understand their feelings? Those people are suppose to welcome a foreign army whilst their families are killed?
Honestly, if the situation was turned 180 degrees, we as americans, would support the invading army?
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Well, that would be like Saddam invading America and shooting MT and Sandman and RPMhat, and then, a bunch of Deisel Dike Liberals would get pissed and bomb Saddams troops.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Well, that would be like Saddam invading America and shooting MT and Sandman and RPMhat, and then, a bunch of Deisel Dike Liberals would get pissed and bomb Saddams troops.
So you're saying the conservatives would welcome Saddam's troops obviously and get together with them and wipe out the liberals????????????:eek:
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difference would be if we had a guy ruling over us and throwing people into wood chippers we wouldnt need a foreign army to help us.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Yep, they deserve him.
Reagan thought so....
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I want the violence and the war to go away from the city," says Sadir, 21. "We don't wish for the presence of Americans in our country. We want them to go away."
Manajid, 22, who nearly scored his own goal with a driven header on Wednesday, hails from the city of Fallujah. He says coalition forces killed Manajid's cousin, Omar Jabbar al-Aziz, who was fighting as an insurgent, and several of his friends. In fact, Manajid says, if he were not playing soccer he would "for sure" be fighting as part of the resistance."
You're getting the opinion of a 21 year old Jock!
Is this what you want to base your international policies on?
OH NO, THEY KILLED MY COUSIN!!..of course, he was shooting at the american troops at the time..but hey...
Pfffft...more liberal media crap.
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the article ain't about Bush, soccer, Iraq or the Olympics.. it's about Grant Wahl's political statement..
wonder who Wahl is votin for in Nov??
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Pfffft...more liberal media crap.
Damn straight... SI is such a liberal rag. ;)
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I hope SI didn't put them on the cover!
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You're getting the opinion of a 21 year old Jock! muckmaw
Jock or not, he probably has a pretty good handle on the common vibe of Iraqi people..
That 21 year old is probably almost just like every other 21 year old in America.. He was just born and raised somewhere else.
How hard is it to put ourselfs in other's boots to attempt to understand them? Pretty damn hard it seems.. Why understand them when we can simply bomb them as simplified in our commander and chief's own words: 'Bring it on!'
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
You guys can not understand their feelings? Those people are suppose to welcome a foreign army whilst their families are killed?
Honestly, if the situation was turned 180 degrees, we as americans, would support the invading army?
Guess they should have thought about that before they invaded, raped and pillaged Kuwait and then refused to leave. Won't you agree?
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From one of the Iraqi athletes: "They are with what America has done in Iraq: destroy everything. The American army has killed so many people in Iraq. What is freedom when I go to the [national] stadium and there are shootings on the road?"
Good grief!:mad:
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Originally posted by AKIron
Guess they should have thought about that before they invaded, raped and pillaged Kuwait and then refused to leave. Won't you agree?
Ahem... They left Kuwait, about a decade ago.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Guess they should have thought about that before they invaded, raped and pillaged Kuwait and then refused to leave. Won't you agree?
Yup.. I agree. I just feel that my America is better than that. Becuase they did it a decade ok, it makes it ok for use to do the same to them now in Iraqi?
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They wouldn't lift a finger to stop Saddam but are all in favor of murdering the people who are helping to rebuild their country.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
They wouldn't lift a finger to stop Saddam but are all in favor of murdering the people who are helping to rebuild their country.
Exactly why we should not be there..
Did they not revolt against Saddam b/c of a lack of weapons? I think the answer is else where..
And yes.. we are rebuilding their country.. But not because it was wasted to begin with..
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
That 21 year old is probably almost just like every other 21 year old in America.. He was just born and raised somewhere else
LOL - I doubt that
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Exactly why we should not be there..
Wait I thought you said they didn't deserve Saddam?
Either we are there and there is no Saddam, or we are not there and they endure another 50 years of Saddam & Family. Pick one. Flipflopflipflopflipflopflipf lopflipflopflipflopflipflopfl ipflopflipflopflipflopflipflo pflipflopflipflopflipflopflip flopflipflopflipflopflipflopf lipflopflipflopflipflopflipfl opflipflopflipflopflipflopfli pflopflipflopflipflopflipflop flipflopflipflopflipflopflipf lopflipflopflipflopflipflopfl ipflopflipflopflipflopflipflo pflip
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Wait I thought you said they didn't deserve Saddam?
Either we are there and there is no Saddam, or we are not there and they endure another 50 years of Saddam & Family.
You get the government you deserve. Either way, they're still dying apparently.
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Originally posted by Sandman
You get the government you deserve. Either way, they're still dying apparently.
By their own choice.
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"Iraq was a surprise addition to the Olympic tournament. The nation managed to cobble together a team amid ongoing conflict at home and efforts to rebuild an Olympic committee that was previously run by Saddam Hussein’s late son, Odai, who allegedly tortured players when they fell out of favor."
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These people have the collective personality of an abused child.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
By their own choice.
By their own choice now as much as it was before..
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Yes, Boosh = Saddam = Hitler. Idiot.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Yes, Boosh = Saddam = Hitler. Idiot.
Funked? Is that toward me?
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Yes. How else can you equate Saddam murdering citizens with US troops defending themselves? Iraqis didn't choose Saddam. He was a dictator. However they are currently choosing to attack Coalition personnel (and civilian contractors) instead of cooperating.
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They wanted sadam gone. Now they want us gone. We're treating them like children doing what we think is best for them, and we probably do. Even thought they dont think so.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
In fact, Manajid says, if he were not playing soccer he would "for sure" be fighting as part of the resistance."
Maybe we should arrest him as soon as he gets off the plan in bagdhad
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
By their own choice now as much as it was before..
Right, lets see.
Saddam:
Looks at watch. Damn, it's allready lunch time and I havent even killed a dozen people today. Hey Ali, call over Uday. Uday, my son! Go to Najaf with your bodygards and rape some random women and put their husbands alive feet first trhrough meat grinders.
US Soldiers:
Damn, it's almost noon, its real hot. OH **** RPG FIRE!!!
BOOM. Raises M16 and shoots the RPG gunner.
Yes our soldiers are just like Saddam and his gang, the poor Iraq's just have no say whther they get shot at bu usa soldiers, just like with saddam.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Well, that would be like Saddam invading America and shooting MT and Sandman and RPMhat, and then, a bunch of Deisel Dike Liberals would get pissed and bomb Saddams troops.
I hope we put up more of a fight than the Iraqi's!
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Its kind of funny that Bush still thinks that Iraqis love him..
But not as funny as Canada lettting a guy carry the flag in the opening cerimonys that wants to break up Canada.
That poor guy that mentioned that he wants to be an insurgent..Off to abu gaby prison with him when he gets home.
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Just making sure..Excellent debating tactic. . I suppose its the norm..
You could have asked before showing ignorance..
Fact: I dont wrong US troops for defending themselfs no more than I wrong the Iraqis for viewing the Americans as invaders and attempting to defend themselfs too..
Fact: I wrong our president for sending them there..
Do you think that the average Iraqi is more against Saddam or America?
Who are we to explain the average Iraqi how to live his life when he lacks the initiative to take his own destiny in hand?
Just for clarification to you, I support our troops as I can.. I do not support the reasoning behind us being there..
When you can explain to me the difference in an unwanted army in Iraqi compared to an unwanted army in Quwait(sp), perhaps my view will be cleared.. 8)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I hope we put up more of a fight than the Iraqi's!
John Kerry will protect us!
You know what, I've chanmged my ind big time about this guy. He was a real war hero, practically Hercules reincarnated. In fact I think he could could take all the VC on by himself, bare handed and win.
Thats why, as a USA Senator, he always voted against all those useless weapons like M1 Abrams tanks and F15 fighters, real soldiers, real heros like John Kerry dont need that garbage. :)
Pongo they had a french canadian carry ur flag? If so, maybe it was like the Korean olympic team, you know two countries - vastly different and at odds with each - but marching as one olympic team as a sign of goodwill. :D
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
When you can explain to me the difference in an unwanted army in Iraqi compared to an unwanted army in Quwait(sp), perhaps my view will be cleared.. 8)
Amazing, now he is comparing our mission in Iraq to Saddam's brutal conquest of Kuwait in 1990...
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Why do you care Grun.. you don't vote.
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OK, that's better, sorry for the insult. I don't think we should have invaded Iraq either. But it's too late for that.
The difference between Iraq in Kuwait and the US in Iraq is qualitative. Iraq attempted to seize the Kuwait oil industry and its revenues. America is attempting to rebuild the Iraqi oil industry so that the people of Iraq may use the revenues to provide a better future for their nation. Iraqis murdered, raped, and pillaged in Kuwait, while Americans in Iraq are rebuilding infrastructure, educating, providing health care, and creating a framework whereby Iraqis can choose their own leaders for the first time in a few generations.
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I read somewhere that Saddam was said to be the stabilizing force in the region, especially within Iraq. Not from respect, but from fear.
I have a feeling we're heading down the road to find out how much of a stabilizing force he was, and I don't think its going to be a fun ride.
-SW
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Why do you care Grun.. you don't vote.
I dont vote because the candidates like John Kerry, who accomplished nothing in 20 years as a Senator, are not worth my time. We should have better ones, I'll vot for them. :)
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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
You guys can not understand their feelings? Those people are suppose to welcome a foreign army whilst their families are killed?
Honestly, if the situation was turned 180 degrees, we as americans, would support the invading army?
Perhaps they'd like to go back to working for Uday Husain.......I heard he treated them well. Score a goal and 4 less hours of torture.
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Originally posted by Pongo
Its kind of funny that Bush still thinks that Iraqis love him..
But not as funny as Canada lettting a guy carry the flag in the opening cerimonys that wants to break up Canada.
That poor guy that mentioned that he wants to be an insurgent..Off to abu gaby prison with him when he gets home.
it was a question asked too em, and he answered honestly, you're making a big case of nothing my friend, why don't you actaully try and learn about one of the BEST wrestlers in the world and how much work it took him to get there.....
maybe I should ***** about all them Ultra-Conservatives from Ontario if they care about Quebec, wanna know what that answer will be?
You Americans put SADDAM their, and now there whining about him, get real you clowns
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Originally posted by SLO
You Americans put SADDAM their, and now there whining about
him, get real you clowns
Where on earth do you get this idea? Saddam took power from one of his cousins who was dictator of Iraq..
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(http://www.activesbl.plus.com/Saddam%20the%20clown.jpg)
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Originally posted by SLO
You Americans put SADDAM their, and now there whining about him, get real you clowns
This can be your little secret. ;)
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Originally posted by SLO
You Americans put SADDAM their, and now there whining about him, get real you clowns
Dumbest.
Post.
EVAR.
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SLO...man your dragging all us Canadian liberal commies down..
lol
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Dumbest.
Post.
EVAR.
I think SLO ment the Iraq-Iran war in the '80, where
Saddam and Khomeini got weapons from western states
and from the former CCCP. Some people for sure got really rich
selling all that stuff to Iran/Irak.
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
I think SLO ment the Iraq-Iran war in the '80, where
Saddam and Khomeini got weapons from western states
and from the former CCCP. Some people for sure got really rich
selling all that stuff to Iran/Irak.
Quite a large gap between that and "You Americans put SADDAM their..."
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Nah... i think SLO is referring to the '69 CIA bloody coup which installed the Baath party into power. Reagan didn't help either giving Saddam some nasty WMD and a green light for genocide of his own people but then again that Ameeerika.
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I give about as much weight there political opion as they say as i do for any pro athlete. None at all, They are schooled on how to get a ball into a box.
Not how to run a country
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Originally posted by Torque
Nah... i think SLO is referring to the '69 CIA bloody coup which installed the Baath party into power. Reagan didn't help either giving Saddam some nasty WMD and a green light for genocide of his own people but then again that Ameeerika.
More fantasies from Cuckoo-clock Land
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Now now, I don't want to hear any whining about Iraq. We're committed, and I want to give GWB 4 more years, along with a majority in both houses, to show America just how bad it can get if the short bus Neo Cons have their way.
Mark my words- if Bush is reelected in 2004 by 2008 Grunherz will be campaigning for Hillary Clinton, the blinders of ideological youth finally being lifted by the stark reality of the evil that is the Conservative movement.