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Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: muckmaw on August 20, 2004, 04:33:15 PM
http://www.swiftvets.com/

Watch the ad and decide for yourself.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: SOB on August 20, 2004, 04:44:32 PM
What exactly am I deciding?
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: majic on August 20, 2004, 04:46:04 PM
What to have for dinner.  I say manwich.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: SOB on August 20, 2004, 04:58:59 PM
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Originally posted by majic
What to have for dinner.  I say manwich.

I hear FunkedUp LOVES the MANwich.  You might ask him where he gets his, 'cause I also hear he's a connoisseur.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Thrawn on August 20, 2004, 05:32:36 PM
What this board needs is yet another Swiftvets/Kerry thread, and link to a site that has already been linked here 10 bajillion times.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Eagler on August 20, 2004, 06:39:12 PM
Kerry takes legal action against Vietnam critics (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/20040820/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_kerry_vietnam_040820214246&printer=1)

&

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127857
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Maverick on August 20, 2004, 07:56:26 PM
Just a question here. I had heard that Kerry had recanted his testimony regarding those attrocity allegations. Did he recant it?
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: FUNKED1 on August 20, 2004, 07:59:15 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
I hear FunkedUp LOVES the MANwich.  You might ask him where he gets his, 'cause I also hear he's a connoisseur.


!#$^@!$!#%!$%!@# I was gonna make the same exact post but with SOB instead of FunkedUp.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: SOB on August 20, 2004, 08:31:34 PM
I'm teh winar!  And I'm oh so clevar!
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Nilsen on August 20, 2004, 09:34:47 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
I'm teh winar!  And I'm oh so clevar!


i jsut ate att mcdonalds :D

whohooooo
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Coolridr on August 20, 2004, 09:52:36 PM
Funny I just had McDonalds 2
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Maverick on August 20, 2004, 10:05:11 PM
No one can confirm or deny that Kerry recanted his testimony??? :confused:   I asked as a serious question not as a joke.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: majic on August 20, 2004, 10:06:13 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
I hear FunkedUp LOVES the MANwich.  You might ask him where he gets his, 'cause I also hear he's a connoisseur.



I don't think we are talking about the same kind of "sloppy Joe."
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: demaw1 on August 20, 2004, 10:14:06 PM
Maverick

  The little I have heard about it, he said he was just repeating what other vets have told him. It will be fun to see how they change his recorded words.  I also commited these atrocities. Oh well, they have changed that cambodia date to janurary now... he he he he.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: X2Lee on August 20, 2004, 11:21:37 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
Kerry takes legal action against Vietnam critics (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&u=/afp/20040820/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_kerry_vietnam_040820214246&printer=1)

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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127857


It suxxors when they use his own words to attack him dont it?

Said it before saying it again, he is either a warcriminal/ murderer
or a baldfaced liar.

But I actually think he is both, I think he commited atrocities
and I think he is a liar.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: opus on August 21, 2004, 12:47:48 AM
Oxy-dittos for oxy -morons
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Coolridr on August 21, 2004, 07:40:42 AM
Kerry needs to get his stories right. He keeps putting out different versions of what happened  every time someone raises the BS flag.  I just hope most of America is catching on to that.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: MrLars on August 21, 2004, 10:32:21 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
No one can confirm or deny that Kerry recanted his testimony??? :confused:   I asked as a serious question not as a joke.


He never recanted the content of his testimony, just the tone he used. I belive he said that the testimony came from an angry young man and may have included that his some of his comments were 'over the top'.

Whatever he said it is not true that he recanted his testimony, remember, the bulk of his testimony related to actions of other soldiers, many of them highly decorated and honorably discharged, as told to him by the participants...a fact that the new SBVFT add convienently edits out of their new add.

I may have some of the wording he used wrong, but he still stands by his original testimony because it was true. Not all committed these acts but, speaking from personal experience, I KNOW that these things happened. Ask any groundpounder that served in Nam and I'll bet that 70% of those who saw combat had seen some of our soldiers displaying ears as trophys. Razing villages and destroying food supplys of suspected enemy sympathizers was common and was often directed from command not in the field. Torture of prisioners was usualy carried out by CIA types but in some cases where info was immediaty needed some in the field took it upon themselves to extract it by whatever means they had.

This is what war does, sometimes the desensitation that helps a soldier do his job wears off. The reality of the human cost of war can be an overpowering force and, IMO, John Kerry is of the type that takes action when he sees something wrong
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Hortlund on August 21, 2004, 02:02:53 PM
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Originally posted by MrLars

Whatever he said it is not true that he recanted his testimony, remember, the bulk of his testimony related to actions of other soldiers, many of them highly decorated and honorably discharged, as told to him by the participants...a fact that the new SBVFT add convienently edits out of their new add.
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LOL, nice use of the word "bulk" to avoid the pesky fact that the most damning allegations came from "veterans" who had not been in uniform at all, or never left stateside.

The swift guys are probably suckering Kerry in right now, then they will hit him with the sledgehammer (Kerrys own self-admitted warcrimes). Its not often you have a presidential candidate who also claims to be a warcriminal :)
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Otto on August 21, 2004, 02:26:16 PM
He really got around a lot in four months.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Bodhi on August 21, 2004, 03:22:59 PM
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
Service to Country  
 
Thank you for supporting Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

Your credit card has been charged: $250.00.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: SOB on August 21, 2004, 03:24:40 PM
LOL!
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: midnight Target on August 21, 2004, 04:03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
Service to Country  
 
Thank you for supporting Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

Your credit card has been charged: $250.00.


Who's zoomin who?
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Thrawn on August 21, 2004, 04:03:08 PM
Bodhi, you didn't just give these $250 did you?  :confused:
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Bodhi on August 21, 2004, 06:38:14 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Bodhi, you didn't just give these $250 did you?  :confused:


Sure did... and I also gave the Bush/Cheney reelection campaign over $5000.00 so far.


If you are that determined to see Kerry elected... why don't you donate some to his campaign?
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Thrawn on August 21, 2004, 08:42:48 PM
Because I think of a thousand better things to do with my money than giving it to ****ing politicians and thier friends, like buying a bullet to shoot myself in the head with.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Lazerus on August 21, 2004, 08:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Because I think of a thousand better things to do with my money than giving it to ****ing politicians and thier friends, like buying a bullet to shoot myself in the head with.


That's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted in here.



:p
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Maverick on August 21, 2004, 10:05:27 PM
So it seems his testimony was a "bit over the top" and he testified to things he never saw. If I recall correctly, he was under oath to tell the truth when testifying. If he did not see the actions how could he testify about them? It seems fairly obvious that in only 4 months he could not have seen much of these activities on the ground, particularly from a swift river boat.

To me. testimony that is "over the top" is less than truthfull. In other words, fabrication and could constitute perjury.

Given his background, I can't see where he has any reason to beef about the swift boat vets ads. He had his hearsay, they have theirs.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: rpm on August 21, 2004, 10:36:14 PM
Have any of you read his testamony? What exactly did he say and in what context? If he was repeating things told to him, exactly as they were told and prefaced that it was told to him exactly this way, what's the problem? Swift Boat Vets is doing exactly the same thing, except they are not under oath.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Tumor on August 22, 2004, 01:34:42 AM
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Originally posted by Coolridr
Kerry needs to get his stories right. He keeps putting out different versions of what happened  every time someone raises the BS flag.  I just hope most of America is catching on to that.


Clinton... twice.  America catch a clue? ROFL! Hope is a good thing though.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Tumor on August 22, 2004, 01:36:52 AM
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Originally posted by MrLars
He never recanted the content of his testimony, just the tone he used. I belive he said that the testimony came from an angry young man and may have included that his some of his comments were 'over the top'.

Whatever he said it is not true that he recanted his testimony, remember, the bulk of his testimony related to actions of other soldiers, many of them highly decorated and honorably discharged, as told to him by the participants...a fact that the new SBVFT add convienently edits out of their new add.

I may have some of the wording he used wrong, but he still stands by his original testimony because it was true. Not all committed these acts but, speaking from personal experience, I KNOW that these things happened. Ask any groundpounder that served in Nam and I'll bet that 70% of those who saw combat had seen some of our soldiers displaying ears as trophys. Razing villages and destroying food supplys of suspected enemy sympathizers was common and was often directed from command not in the field. Torture of prisioners was usualy carried out by CIA types but in some cases where info was immediaty needed some in the field took it upon themselves to extract it by whatever means they had.

This is what war does, sometimes the desensitation that helps a soldier do his job wears off. The reality of the human cost of war can be an overpowering force and, IMO, John Kerry is of the type that takes action when he sees something wrong


War is hell... so lets just quit.
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: Bodhi on August 22, 2004, 09:23:02 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Because I think of a thousand better things to do with my money than giving it to ****ing politicians and thier friends, like buying a bullet to shoot myself in the head with.


Hell, now there is a cause worth donating too....

ohh, but wait, you guys can't have guns can you... :rofl
Title: John Kerry Sellout Swiftboats Ad.
Post by: lazs2 on August 22, 2004, 09:32:58 AM
A noble thing to do thrawn.  Good luck in the next life.

crying toast boy says that kerrie never recanted the fact that he told people he was a war criminal?  Ok..  So I believe him.. he commited war atrocities.

As for who is presidental... it becomes clear... move on and moores 911 are lying smear tactics of the highest order... mooore is the guest of honor at the democratic convention... kerrie claims he lives moores movie "every day"  ...    one commercial that has swift boat guys trashing the record of a fonda pandering 4 month hero who got three puirple hearts without even getting a scar...and the sissies come friggin unglued!  

The liberals are allways their own worst enemy... all the estrogen forces em to be petulant and being spoiled and thinking they are the smart and the elite makes em vulnerable to their own tactics.

lazs