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Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: nopoop on August 22, 2004, 07:15:39 PM
Left fuse is about done. Wing at the moment is filler, prolly change it up...then maybe not. Do have to tone down the insignia.

Greebo give me some input. I have to back off on the panel line shading on the lettering. I went heavy on the shading but over white it's a bit much.

Comments guys ?? I get too close to what I'm working on :)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1093229456_aa.jpg)

Thanks.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: United on August 22, 2004, 07:39:58 PM
It looks great to me nopoop!  I dont know anything about P-47 skins, but it still looks absolutely fantastic.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 23, 2004, 12:46:06 AM
I was wondering if you were going to do a red nosed 56th D-11.  That looks great.  I saw that particular Jug in a photo when I was looking for an image of the two tone camo 56th Jugs.

Any thought to doing one of the mid-late summer 44 versions with the gray green camo to go with your Dave Schilling D25?

I was up in that one flying with a couple guys in D11s and thought it would really add to the feel to see a mixed formation of 56th Jugs with the mid-late summer 44 paint schemes.

I was imagining an AH formation that looked something like the image included :)

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1093240693_56th-jugs.jpg)
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: SunKing on August 23, 2004, 01:17:37 AM
You've got a couple more to do.

(http://www.assonetart.com/grwolfpack.jpg)
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: B17Skull12 on August 23, 2004, 01:52:19 AM
Cameron that is my name. i think i found a Jug to fly now:D
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Howitzer on August 23, 2004, 02:58:36 AM
Looks great Nopoop!!! I don't know much about jug paintschemes besides the fact that they look sweet.  :aok
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: XtrmeJ on August 23, 2004, 06:53:12 AM
Curse nopoop! Has me flying jugs since the introduction of skins. Blast!


 Nice skins! :D
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Shane on August 23, 2004, 06:57:47 AM
i love your olive drab coloring (at least on the checkertail d-11 you did).
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: nopoop on August 23, 2004, 09:20:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
Any thought to doing one of the mid-late summer 44 versions with the gray green camo to go with your Dave Schilling D25 ?


I'd love to Guppy but I have no pictures or plates of a Razorback in that paint scheme.

If you have access to or know where I can get photo's like the one you posted or color plates it would be greatly appreciatied. B&W is ok.

Ospreys book on the 56th shows none. No color plates either.

Thanks for the comments guys !!
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Monk on August 23, 2004, 10:54:24 AM
Excellent work Nopoop.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Blooz on August 23, 2004, 01:56:01 PM
Excellent work!

I think you need some red on the rudder though.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: nopoop on August 23, 2004, 07:55:15 PM
Blooz both color plates I have from different artists show a drab tail. Interestingly both show chipped paint to aluminum in the same place. One shows an overpaint of the original white stripe in a darker color green.

Haven't got a photo tho..that sucks.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Blooz on August 24, 2004, 08:52:28 PM
No problem.

Was just going by Sunkings posted pic above. I noticed that the red nosed 47's have red rudders and the white nosed 47's having white horizontal striped stabilizer/rudder.

Was just thinking that maybe your plane was coded same as these. Guess not if you've got other pics.

I'm wondering if the one you say has chipped paint/aluminum rudder might be a replaced rudder that was photographed before it was painted red maybe?

I'm no expert or nothing. Just thinking out loud.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: jetb123 on August 24, 2004, 09:15:40 PM
Nice skin nopoop. Hope it gets approved:aok .
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: nopoop on August 24, 2004, 11:23:51 PM
Blooz here's a portion of the plate. So far I've found red cowlings with yellow stabilizers for the most part. Drab stablilizers when it's an infield update from the white striped issue.

From the two plates I have access to the white stripe is visable as a darker green on the one plate.

From the plate I'm working off of it appears that the upper fuse invasion stripes were over painted in the field.

That makes it all come together historically. Upper invasion stripes with the white stripe on the stabilizer both overpainted. Don't have a photo as I said but I'm going with what I got :)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1093407359_hart4.jpg)

Glad you like it Jet. Hope your new computer is humming.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Nomde on August 25, 2004, 01:01:48 AM
very nice nopoop :aok
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 25, 2004, 01:13:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
Blooz here's a portion of the plate. So far I've found red cowlings with yellow stabilizers for the most part. Drab stablilizers when it's an infield update from the white striped issue.

From the two plates I have access to the white stripe is visable as a darker green on the one plate.

From the plate I'm working off of it appears that the upper fuse invasion stripes were over painted in the field.

That makes it all come together historically. Upper invasion stripes with the white stripe on the stabilizer both overpainted. Don't have a photo as I said but I'm going with what I got :)

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/474_1093407359_hart4.jpg)

Glad you like it Jet. Hope your new computer is humming.



Just to clarify the color markings on the 56th Jugs.

The red noses were from March 44 on.  The Rudders on the 61st and 62nd Squadron aircraft were painted red and  yellow respectively at the time the nose color was introduced.  At the same time the white tail bands were removed.  The 63rd FS of which this skin represents, did not add a rudder color until September of 44, when they went with medium blue.  So nopoop is right on the money with no tail bands, the colored nose and no rudder color for the 63rd FS bird.

Sunking's image shows aircraft together that would not have been in the air at the same time.  The bubble top jugs are D-Day and beyond while the white nosed ones are pre March 44

Dan/Slack
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Furball on August 25, 2004, 05:26:31 AM
that skin is awesome nopoop, great job!
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 25, 2004, 02:12:13 PM
Definitive color shot of the P47 that nopoop is working on.

Found it in Jeff Ethell's book "Air Command"

You can see the darker areas where the upper fuselage and wing invasion stripes have been oversprayed as well as the darker areas where the white tail bands have been oversprayed.  Also visible is a replacement, unpainted canopy and the paint chipping away on the vertical tail.

posted a color shot of the nose art of "I Wanted Wings" in the other thread too nopoop

Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1093460914_p47unb.jpg)
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: nopoop on August 25, 2004, 07:42:24 PM
WHERE ARE YOU FINDING THESE GREAT PHOTOS ??

You absolutely ROCK !!
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 25, 2004, 08:35:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
WHERE ARE YOU FINDING THESE GREAT PHOTOS ??

You absolutely ROCK !!


I've been building my WW2 aviation library for a long long time :)

It comes in handy

Dan/Slack
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Nomde on August 27, 2004, 03:01:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Guppy35
I was up in that one flying with a couple guys in D11s and thought it would really add to the feel to see a mixed formation of 56th Jugs with the mid-late summer 44 paint schemes.

Guppy,
That's what i'm currently working on. I'd like to get markings submitted for the 56th Fighter Group's - 61st, 62nd, and 63rd Fighter Squad so my squad can fly formation with all historically accurate markings.

Nopoop is correct for the nose/tail color schemes used by the 56th. As a side note, the 63rd FS used an almost navy blue tail color for a brief period in the summer of '44 before finalizing on the medium blue coloring. I like the darker blue, but I like manly colors :D

Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 27, 2004, 03:05:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nomde
Guppy,
That's what i'm currently working on. I'd like to get markings submitted for the 56th Fighter Group's - 61st, 62nd, and 63rd Fighter Squad so my squad can fly formation with all historically accurate markings.

Nopoop is correct for the nose/tail color schemes used by the 56th. As a side note, the 63rd FS used an almost navy blue tail color for a brief period in the summer of '44 before finalizing on the baby blue coloring. I like the darker blue, but I like manly colors :D


Just remember Nomde this is all your fault.  It was you and your squaddie I was flying with that night that got me thinking about this stuff.  You and he were in D-11s and I was in a D-25. I had nopoop's Dave Schilling marked 47 while you guys had the white nosed D-11s.  

It made me want a camo razorback :)

Dan/Slack
(better known to you that night as Rust, or +Tiff from the AW days)
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Nomde on August 27, 2004, 03:09:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
I'd love to Guppy but I have no pictures or plates of a Razorback in that paint scheme.

If you have access to or know where I can get photo's like the one you posted or color plates it would be greatly appreciatied. B&W is ok.


Nopoop,
I have the book "56th Fighter Group" published by Osprey, which has some real nice color renderings of the various p47's the 56th flew during the war. If you need anything, please let me know and i'll send it along.
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Nomde on August 28, 2004, 03:54:06 AM
ROFL :D
Good to see yas +tiff, was trying to figure out who you were bro
Title: P47D of Capt Cameron Hart, 63rd FS/56th FG
Post by: Guppy35 on August 29, 2004, 03:04:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nomde
ROFL :D
Good to see yas +tiff, was trying to figure out who you were bro


That Jug can get addicting :)

Silat, Phan and I were up in D-25s tonight and had a blast.  Also, to my surprise and delight, noticed that we had three different skins on the D-25s and could see them all.  Thought of a formation of Jugs from the same group with different markings is very appealing.

Dan/Slack