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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: LtPillur on August 22, 2004, 11:52:00 PM
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In the last few months I've gotten better with ACM and flying in general (still have a LOT to learn!!). But I can't shoot. Or rather I can't hit. I chase the drones around and get D200 from them canons blazing and I only get one or two hits! Last night I actually flew past a plane while shooting a continuous stream of useless lightweight lead! Any ideas to get this shooting thing down? It is now frustrating to stay alive! Because I can't hit anything when I AM alive. Thanks.
Peace
Pillur
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You seem to have the in-close shooting thing down. The key to good aim is to shoot when closer rather than farther. The next thing you should do is mess with your convergence settings a bit; try putting all of the guns to the same convergence at about 200 to 250 yards. You'll probably find that this helps substantially with killing folks at those distances. Finally, try turning off your tracers if you haven't already. With tracers on, folks tend to "walk" the tracers to the target rather than actually aiming at the enemy. This can seriously hinder killing ability and hit percentage.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Set your guns at 400, then remember where the bullet stream will be hitting at lesser and greater distances.
At 200 it will be higher than the pipper at 600 it will be lower so aim accordingly.
Fire short bursts and change your point of aim till you hit the target.
Fly a P51 till you get it right - good guns, decent amount of ammo and you can evade nme a/c fairly easily.
The drones are a good start - fly in the same direction as them and kill them, then land, rearm and fly in the opposit direction and try to kill them. Try to tag them from the side, top and bottom till you get the hang of it.
Then practice for a couple of years till it's second nature. In five years or so you could be pretty good.
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tracers off will utterly and completely make your accuracy go to nill.... for a time... :)
Levi's right once you start getting hits without tracers you start to learn what the sight picture looks like, and where you have to put your pipper in a given situation to score hits. Turning tracers off frustrated me to no end for several days before I started seeing results, and I'm a better shot now because of it (better being a relative term) :)
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It doesent sound like your "locking up" your target. In most arenas you can hit tab & a box will form around target with an X aiming point. aim at the X. In FFA, first hit cont.tab to enable you to lock onto targets on the same team.
hope this helps
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Come see me in the TA.
There are a few things I can help you with to get back on track.
The biggest single mistake most people make is overcorrecting when they are trying to adjust course & shoot at the same time.
Give me a yell we'll set up a time to meet.
billj69@btinet.net
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Originally posted by propbender
It doesent sound like your "locking up" your target. In most arenas you can hit tab & a box will form around target with an X aiming point. aim at the X. In FFA, first hit cont.tab to enable you to lock onto targets on the same team.
hope this helps
This doesn't work in the main arena or the CT where the "big dogs" play. Its a learning tool that can be turned on in H2H arenas, training arenas and off-line.
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Are you having a problem with your plane "bouncing" around as
you try to fine-tune for your shot? I had this problem and corrected it with scaling the joystick properly.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
You seem to have the in-close shooting thing down. The key to good aim is to shoot when closer rather than farther. The next thing you should do is mess with your convergence settings a bit; try putting all of the guns to the same convergence at about 200 to 250 yards. You'll probably find that this helps substantially with killing folks at those distances. Finally, try turning off your tracers if you haven't already. With tracers on, folks tend to "walk" the tracers to the target rather than actually aiming at the enemy. This can seriously hinder killing ability and hit percentage.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Had the same problem, was walking the tracers to target. Makes it hard to hit and burns alot of ammo. Turning off tracers helped me alot.
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Be sure and practice leading your shot too. If you are shooting in a turn remember to shoot ahead of the target. Lot of math involved. Also, to save ammo, fire short bursts instead of a stead stream.
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be sure your video card has v-sync enabled otherwise you could be firing rubber bullets
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Originally posted by Ohio330
Are you having a problem with your plane "bouncing" around as
you try to fine-tune for your shot? I had this problem and corrected it with scaling the joystick properly.
YES! i find myself bouncing around a target all the time. I have tried stick scaling on a "small scale" but nothing real serious. Maybe it's time
Thanks
Pillur
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THANK YOU ALL! :aok I really appreciate all the answers. After seeing a film of leviathan flying a spit and killing a dozen or so nme's I realized I needed help! I will meet you in the TA Ghosth. Although when I go in it is usually pretty empty. If we can't connect I WILL e-mail you.I turned of tracers from the start. They seemd to be a hinderance. As for all the other suggestions-thanks. I've also fallen in like with the yak. But it runs out of ammo in about 10 seconds and Then I'm truly dead. I will try the P-51. I could use the extra thousand rounds of ammo. :)
Peace
Pillur
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Looks like both fixing that nose bounce, learning to stabilse when your shooting, and learning to control your trigger finger till you have a GOOD shot are whats needed.
Email me, we'll find a time to get together.
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Another thing that I found myself doing, and I do fall back into this habit when I'm having a bad night and really anxious for the kill is I'm over controlling right as I"m about to fire, I get excited and those calm deliberate inputs on the joystick become more and more exagerated and I end up missing everthing. I know getting that kill can be really exciting but I always fly better when I'm more or less in neutral in my mind. Attentive yes, but not over eager. Kinda like target shooting if you've ever done that. Control the breathing, smooth pull on the trigger, don't jerk it. You won't take it that far since this is just a video game but I think the concept is similar.
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I found shooting easier when flying with combat trim.
Its easier when you are on the dead six of your enemy or get him real slow and have the whole plane from upside or downside to shoot at.
Dont worry about leviathan. I usually use 100 canon rounds per plane to shoot down, glad if i can land 2 victories anyway.
Bombers take a lot of beating, since you mention drones. Most important on bombers is that you pulverize one part.
It is easy possible to put all you amo into a bomber and its still flying, when you distribute it equally. Key is to hit one part only.
ciao schutt
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Originally posted by LtPillur
THANK YOU ALL! :. I've also fallen in like with the yak. But it runs out of ammo in about 10 seconds and Then I'm truly dead. I will try the P-51. I could use the extra thousand rounds of ammo. :)
Peace
Pillur
Until you get better at hit percentage, I think ppl suggest flying the NIKI..alot of ammo, and an all around decent plane.
Also, If stick scaling doesnt seem to help, you may want to
get a new joystick. That was another prob i had. I could
tell the "dead band" was very wide on my old stick (the center
area of my stick would jiggle very easily..hard to explain.. but
was not a tight fit on center, and the slightest touch to
the stick would cause my plane to shimmy sideways and up
and down. Good luck!
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I think about the best thing to do is probably the most frustrating thing to do.....
Use one of the "Aces" stick setting and then learn to fly like that.
AK-AK has his stick setting file posted on these boards as do a number of others. DL and set up one of them ( do a search for stick settings) I used Akak's because I was trying to learn the P38 and thats all akak flys. My stick settings were MORE aggressive than akak's and I thought I'd never get used to his. But what it did was ease the fine tuning manuvers to get a good shot.
The tuff part is not to mess with the setting once you put them in! It's much like turning off the tracers. It WILL take a while to get use to it, but once you do you'll see why the "Ace's" stick settings are like that.
SO you don't want your stick so sensitive that it "wiggles" when you look at, nor do you want it so "soft" that you can't keep up with an enemies manuvers. Use a setting thats already tried and true.
....as for shooting buffs, just clip their wing tips off! With the right settings, and some practice, its a piece of cake to make a 400 knot pass and hit the wing tips.
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A basic sight in on the plane you want to fly is a good idea. Just like with a new pistol or rifle, the first thing you do is go to the range and check your sights against a target, not go out in the woods and go hunting.
In AHII you do that with the .target command. It creates a target at various ranges for you to practice shooting at. The format is .target xxx , where the xxx is the range you want to shoot at. For example a target at 500 would be .target 500. The target is always due North. Don't forget the space between target and the xxx.
You can shoot until the target fills up with holes at which point it will refresh itself, or you can use .target 0 to get rid of it, then .target 750 to put up a fresh target.
The target is useful:
1) For setting convergences.
2) For checking where you print between cannons and machine guns.
3) and my secret of the day, where your weapons hit at different altitudes. It is little discussed, but your weapons have different range and drop depending on the altitude you are at. AH models air density. The air at Sea Level is thick, therefore your total range is shorter, and the rounds drop quicker. At 30K the air is very thin, your total effective range is much farther and your rounds fire much flatter. To really see this take up a 109 with the 30 mm spud cannon. At sea level the rounds drop out on the ground in front of you . (OK, an exaggeration). At 30K the spud gun has an effective range of 1K+ if you practice. However this works two ways, a B-17 tailgunner's 50 cals have a tremendous effective range at 30K too, close to 2K. (if they know it).
I discovered the altitude difference after chasing a P-51 at 19k. He was flying perfectly level trying to out run my D-9. Range 700. I had practiced a ton at 1K altitude on the target and knew exactly where to set my sights to hit with my machine guns at 700. I blasted away, missing with every shot.
So I logged off to offline mode, flew up to 19K, set the target to 700 and blasted away using the "correct" elevation adjustment. I discovered that I was shooting WAY over the target center. My rounds were flying much flatter at 19K, therefore needed less elevation adjustment.
Be sure to get rid of it before you log in the main, or you will find a target floating around due North of you.
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good info Mosq...Ive seen those targets while digging around but never knew how to activate them....thankx