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Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Odee on August 23, 2004, 04:22:27 AM
Are we ever going to see that venerable attack bomber that served in three wars?  WW2, Korea, and Vietnam?

http://www.ww2guide.com/a26.shtml   Compare the B-26, B-25, A-26....
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Nilsen on August 23, 2004, 04:55:19 AM
if they model it
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: culero on August 23, 2004, 08:27:04 AM
Great idea for a perked bomber, IMHO.

culero
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Midnight on August 23, 2004, 08:52:21 AM
Would love to see it. Used to be great fun flying that in AWIII
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Zanth on August 23, 2004, 10:11:16 AM
I don't really know, but for some reason I kind of imagine it would preform similar to the A-20 though yes?

edit to add some unofficial info I found after posting:

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/wwii/2004-July/000950.html
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Odee on August 23, 2004, 12:01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Zanth
I don't really know, but for some reason I kind of imagine it would preform similar to the A-20 though yes?

edit to add some unofficial info I found after posting:

http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/wwii/2004-July/000950.html


http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/a26.html

A tad faster, and quite a bit more manueverable than the A-20, my friend.  Why else would it have lasted through nearly 40 years of combat service.  WW2, Korea, Nam....?
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The Douglas A-26 (later B-26) Invader was the outstanding American twin-engined light bomber of the Second World War. Although it did not begin to reach combat units until the spring of 1944, it went on to provide outstanding service for the rest of the war in both the European and the Pacific theatres of action. The Invader remained in American service in substantial numbers after the war, and was a major participant in the Korean War and was even around to serve in both phases of the Vietnam conflict, first with French and then later with American units. Although the last Invaders were withdrawn from USAF service in 1972, Invaders remained in service with many smaller air forces for many years thereafter. Invaders participated in several small-scale conflicts during the 1950s and 1960s, and carried out numerous clandestine operations, including the abortive Bay of Pigs operation of 1961.
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Muddie on August 23, 2004, 01:59:48 PM
Because they were paid for?   ;)



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Originally posted by Odee
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/a26.html

A tad faster, and quite a bit more manueverable than the A-20, my friend.  Why else would it have lasted through nearly 40 years of combat service.  WW2, Korea, Nam....?
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: RvrndMax on August 23, 2004, 09:29:59 PM
Douglas A-26b .... No. 1 on the wish list

Even perked ....
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: hyena426 on August 24, 2004, 02:58:29 AM
good plane a 26,,wish they would add the pby catalina too,,good old work horse that is still being used to fight fires to this day:)<~~watched one not far from my house making bomb runs on a fire with water,,sure was cool to see that old work horse in action,,and plus there is not any ww2 flight sims that have a cat that you can fly:(  good bomb load and decent guns,,slow but great range,,,and made in several diffrent countries,hehe,,think only bomber with higher production was the b-24 liberator{i think},,another good bomber that is neglected from flight sims because it aint popular anuff,,,,cats were good ship killers and the black cats with radar would be neat to send up when enemy takes down your dar:)

isnt there still a b-26 vader being used for a fire fighter too?
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Odee on August 24, 2004, 03:51:19 AM
Ya know, Ijust saw the Sub thread, and you are right about the Catalina...  Haven't seen anyone but MS do that one.

Great idea   Thanks :cool:
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: IV/JG51_Razor on August 24, 2004, 10:09:50 AM
"isnt there still a b-26 vader being used for a fire fighter too?"

Only in Hollywood my friend :)  After Richard Dreyfus flew through those burning trees, the USFS decided that they needed to be retired.

There are many Gruman S2Fs and Lockheed P2Vs still fighting fire these days, but no more B-26s, F7Fs, B-25s, or even P-61s (that would have been a sight to behold!). The only other twins that I can think of are the Foker F-27, and the Canadair CL-215/415, plus a couple of PBYs.
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: rpm on August 24, 2004, 12:01:28 PM
Both the a-26 and the Cat would be great additions. The Cat could be an alternate goon/attack/bomber.:aok
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: hyena426 on August 24, 2004, 01:44:14 PM
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Only in Hollywood my friend  After Richard Dreyfus flew through those burning trees, the USFS decided that they needed to be retired.
oohh it must of been a a-20 then i read about still fighting fires
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: VolsCAF on August 24, 2004, 02:53:54 PM
Vader would be excellent! :aok
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Wolfala on August 24, 2004, 03:10:21 PM
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Originally posted by IV/JG51_Razor
"isnt there still a b-26 vader being used for a fire fighter too?"

WRONG again - Canada is still using A26's as fast attack borate bombers.
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: hyena426 on August 24, 2004, 03:39:20 PM
yup was lookin it up,i guess there are still 50 vaders in the air


The Invader was designed as a successor to the Douglas A-20.  The A-26 first saw action in the European theatre in November 1944. Eventually, over 2500 Invaders were built. After 1948, the Invader was redesigned as the B-26 after the Martin Marauder was no longer in service. 450 of the B-26s were made after the original “Attack” designation was discontinued. The A-26/B-26 saw service in Korea, Vietnam and as fire bombers after the war. Approximately 50 are still flying today.

A lot of foreign
Air forces used the A-26 Invader for various
tasks, some Invaders still can be found
operational now with the task of fighting fires. <~~i new there was a b-26 vader fire fighter:)
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Odee on August 24, 2004, 06:56:28 PM
Absolutely correct Hyena...!  However Canada is phasing out the 26, in favor of the newer fire bomber they're building.  Looks lke it's mdeled after the Grumman Goose.  Lays twice the water in one pass, and refills literally on the fly.  Awesome plane.  Wish I could find the link to the company making it.

Even more Awesome is this Illyushin that hte USFS refused to allow to help waterbomb those fires in 2001-2002!
http://www.sacredearth.org/waterbombers.html?source=1

11,000 gallons capacity!  :cool:
Title: What about the A-26 INVADER?
Post by: Wolfala on August 24, 2004, 07:17:44 PM
There is an extreme earnistness when it comes to russian aircraft design. It works - but nothing fancy. I think it would be a welcome addition to any fleet of water bombers.


Wolfala