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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: United on August 23, 2004, 04:47:06 PM
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Will HTC allow a Spit8 skin on a Spit9 or Spit5? I know there have been other exceptions, but I want to make sure before I begin a lot of work.
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As long as it's a historic skin, sure. But I tire of all these spit/hurc skins that are ALL identical save for the numbers on the tail code. Let's spice up the RAF planes, people! Make 'em interesting!
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My current project, as of a few minutes ago :D
(http://www.squadron.com/old/spitfire8arii/spitfire8arii_4.jpg)
Not gonna be too hard considering the Panel Line layout is very similar to the spit5, which I have a template for.
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Originally posted by United
My current project, as of a few minutes ago :D
(http://www.squadron.com/old/spitfire8arii/spitfire8arii_4.jpg)
Not gonna be too hard considering the Panel Line layout is very similar to the spit5, which I have a template for.
United , check the current skins , a "grey nurse" has been done already by Dsrtrat, it came through in the recent batch.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=119520&referrerid=2084
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DOH! Thank ya a bunch redd! Glad it was caught before I went too far with it. Think I may try another aircraft from that squadron since I have the camo and some of the shark teeth done.
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Originally posted by Krusty
As long as it's a historic skin, sure. But I tire of all these spit/hurc skins that are ALL identical save for the numbers on the tail code. Let's spice up the RAF planes, people! Make 'em interesting!
*cough*
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alright now, where in any part of this skin is it just changing around some numbers and things?
its completely different camo colors, its got shark teeth, numbers and markings are completely different...?
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Now Im on to this one
(http://hsfeatures.com/images/spitfireixcwp_64.JPG)
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Originally posted by United
Think I may try another aircraft from that squadron since I have the camo and some of the shark teeth done.
My bad, sounded like you'd just change some minor details and use the same skin, is all. Sorry.
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ahhhh.... I dont like to do that copying thing. :D
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Guess I'll put this on hold United.
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/zx6.jpg)
Interesting my pics show black/white squadron code.
Skuzzy will permit Spit 7/8 skins on Spit 9 providing they are different. i.e. not a standard grey/green etc with diff letter codes.
I had put this on hold as it is a Spit 7, but Skuzzy said would accept as it is 'different'. Scratch that, just realised Spit 6 and 7 had pointy wings, but you should get the idea
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/Hialt.jpg)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Guess I'll put this on hold United.
Interesting my pics show black/white squadron code.
Skuzzy will permit Spit 7/8 skins on Spit 9 providing they are different. i.e. not a standard grey/green etc with diff letter codes.
I had put this on hold as it is a Spit 7, but Skuzzy said would accept as it is 'different'. Scratch that, just realised Spit 6 and 7 had pointy wings, but you should get the idea
Don't give up on the Spit VII Kev. In the Summer of 44 they were flying them with standard wings, and were actually flying ground attack in them on occasion.
For the time frame of that skin, the regular wingtips would be accurate.
No underwing roundels, and the top of the wing and fuselage roundels would be slightly smaller.
Dan/Slack
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Thanks Guppy didn't realise that, I had already begun again with this Spit 9. (still have other layer for Spit 7 NX-O)
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/northolt.jpg)
Intercepted a lone Ju88 at 40,000ft Sep 12 1942.
I think on both the wing roundels are correct size (they are smaller). Will check fuselage roundel though, thanks.
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Here ya go Kev.
From Osprey's "Late Marque Spitfire Aces"
Peter Brother's Spitfire VII with normal span wings etc.
I'm gonna shamelessly name drop too in regards to the pilot of the Spit IX skin you did above. His name is Emanual Galitzine and I had the pleasure of corresponding with and then meeting him back in 1986 while researching the Spit XII. He claimed a 190 in a Spit XII in September of 43. It was a Ju86R he intercepted in the modified Spit IX in September 42. He later flew Spit IXs in the Med with 92 Squadron after finishing his tour with 41 Squadron and Spit XIIs.
Dan/Slack
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1093333285_spitvii.jpg)
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Yup.
Of course you mean Prince Emanual Galitzine :)
Wondering if the Mk VII skin would be more appropriate on a Spit V, given the assymetrical radiators on lower wings.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Yup.
Of course you mean Prince Emanual Galitzine :)
Wondering if the Mk VII skin would be more appropriate on a Spit V, given the assymetrical radiators on lower wings.
Never noticed the radiators. Good eye :) The profile is wrong. The VII had the same radiator set up as the IX.
The Spit VI had the same set up as the Vb.
Now you guys have me hunting for better Spit IX and V skin possibilities. Some of the Burma paint schemes that went on the VIIIs might be nice on the IX as well as some of the Med schemes.
Gotta love Spits :)
Dan/Slack
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OK, reduced both wing and fuselage roundels ( you were right ).
Lined up gun stains.
Just gotta do paint chips.
Less dirt on this one but more fading.
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/northolt2.jpg)
Any other suggestions.
Oh where the hell does the exhaust get its color from?
Thanks
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Yours is great Kev, much better than mine is now. Ive done the basic coloring on SPITSIDE.bmp, but I havent done weathering or any detailed work on it yet. Keep working on yours though, I love it. Also, mine is a Spit9, so maybe we're doing two different versions of the same plane?
Appologies for the bad picture, I dont have a bmp converter except MS paint...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1093378855_ahss21.jpg)
I did more research and found out that ZX-6 does have black squadron markings, not the blue.
(http://www.btinternet.com/~rambo.123uk/EAW/145.jpg)
I noticed that this skin cant be made completely realistic because of the swastika kill markings...
Kev, i have noticed that on your spits you have the black line on the wing overlapping the RAF markings. Is that the correct way or is it supposed to be underneath as Ive seen before?
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For swastikas use a + with the sides outlined in white as per LW wing crosses. I just use single pixel widths for them.
Wish I knew about the black line for sure. seen some models where this black line is actually a deep panel line.
For painting get hold of the time limited version of Paint Shop Pro from http://www.jasc.com
Mine is a Spit 9 also, so I'll back burner it for the moment and finish the two hi-alt Spits instead.
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You can do a far east Spitfire Mk XIV. I have photos of this aircraft with full wings and the far side. It is in Ginger Lacey's markings with numerous German kill marks on the left side. A couple of Italian and Japanese too. I couldn't find a photo of the left side on the internet.
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/SpitXIV1.jpg)
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/SpitXIV2.jpg)
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Originally posted by Kev367th
OK, reduced both wing and fuselage roundels ( you were right ).
Lined up gun stains.
Just gotta do paint chips.
Less dirt on this one but more fading.
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/northolt2.jpg)
Any other suggestions.
Oh where the hell does the exhaust get its color from?
Thanks
No idea on the exhausts. No yellow leading edge stripe on that particular paint scheme.
It looks great though :)
Dan/Slack
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Yellow leading edge built into model, can't get rid of it :(
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Originally posted by Kev367th
For swastikas use a + with the sides outlined in white as per LW wing crosses. I just use single pixel widths for them.
Wish I knew about the black line for sure. seen some models where this black line is actually a deep panel line.
For painting get hold of the time limited version of Paint Shop Pro from http://www.jasc.com
Mine is a Spit 9 also, so I'll back burner it for the moment and finish the two hi-alt Spits instead.
Thats what I did with the swastis, just put a + sign in for them. I have the PSP trial, but I much prefer the free Serif Photoplus 5.5.
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United, have you checked the two Spitfire Mk.9 skins in AH by DsrtRat? They're both actually Mk.8 aircraft accepted for the Mk.9.
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Hi Guppy, latest pic of MkVII, just paint chips layer and adjust weathering/fading layers opacity left to do. Reworked roundels as you suggested and removed lower roundels.
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/hialt.jpg)
Reworked weathering/fading, just paint chips left.
(http://www.cyberonic.net/~kreed/hialt2.jpg)
Thinking about doing slightly later one with lower D-Day stripes only on wing and half on fuselage, as the upper ones hose the cannon colors up.
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That VII looks really great. I like your idea of doing the version with the partial D-Day stripes too.
I think this one would be top of my list to use with the IX.
Great stuff :)
Dan/Slack
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Nearly finished with SPITSIDE.bmp. Heres what I have so far:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1093470109_ahss22.jpg)
edit: added a quick layer of weathering. Think I need make the streaks a little smaller.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1093471086_ahss241.jpg)
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Actually I like the look and size of your streaks .. ya never know what exactly might have caused them ... flying into an oil stream on a plane that was shot down ?