Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Vudak on August 23, 2004, 06:56:58 PM
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How would the B-29 fare against the Ta152? Would its introduction make the Ta152 make sense?
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That matchup is about the only WW2 (sort of) related reason I would want to have B29 in AH.
I think that the B29 would have an easy time with Ta152 in AH. Ta 152 has weak wings and weak anti buff armament that requires getting in close. It has poor acceleration so it wouyld take it a long time to re position for attacks against very fast B29s.
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if a good 152 was in control of the 152 then hand down 152 even with a great bomber pilot.
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Depends on which Ta152.
The Ta152H was developed in response to the B-29 but the Ta152C would have wrecked murder on the B-29.
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It would be good in the hands of a skilled pilot.
The Matchup would be fun to see in Aces High, Although I'd rather go against it with a Me262, 163.
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What alt and cruising speed does a loaded B29 have?
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It would be very difficult for any fighter in AH to destroy a B-29 with a compatent pilot simply because of it's speed.
This aircraft will buzz along at 25K at around 350MPH+/- (Without looking up any performance numbers).
Intercepting it will be hard enough. Tail chases will have low closure speeds meaning more time in the bomber sights.
Even if you have alt. you may only be able to make one run and then you are chasing again.
Barring the 262 or 163 very difficult unless flown at low alt and what would be the point of that.
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You've just outlined the reasonse why the B-29 should NEVER enter AH2. *Ever.*
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Originally posted by Krusty
You've just outlined the reasonse why the B-29 should NEVER enter AH2. *Ever.*
Sure it should, as an expensive perk bomber.
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Originally posted by F4UDOA
It would be very difficult for any fighter in AH to destroy a B-29 with a compatent pilot simply because of it's speed.
This aircraft will buzz along at 25K at around 350MPH+/- (Without looking up any performance numbers).
Intercepting it will be hard enough. Tail chases will have low closure speeds meaning more time in the bomber sights.
Even if you have alt. you may only be able to make one run and then you are chasing again.
Barring the 262 or 163 very difficult unless flown at low alt and what would be the point of that.
Your numbers would give the Ta152H-1 a 100 mph speed advantage. The B-29s were more susceptible to damage than earlier bombers like the B-17 and B-24. The pressurized hull for instance would make the German cannons much more effective in ripping the skin off the plane.
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...and Kurt Tank.
Sorry but, no thread can't end talking about the Ta152 without mentioning him ,it just can't :D
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i can see the B29 being the King HQ raider if it ever made in AH
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GScholz i got the same impression, but since i am the ubber n00b at that type of physic's, i wouldn'r know what the damage to the plane i would be. im but i think the damage would be fatal to say the least because doesn't when a pressurized cabin get a crack that opens up, the plane just about falls apart?:confused:
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Originally posted by GScholz
Your numbers would give the Ta152H-1 a 100 mph speed advantage. The B-29s were more susceptible to damage than earlier bombers like the B-17 and B-24. The pressurized hull for instance would make the German cannons much more effective in ripping the skin off the plane.
The hull was not pressurized, only the crew stations were > cockpit, middle gunners and rear gunner.
They can be seen in this diagram
(http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Images/B29pics/WBD79.gif)
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Hmm, the Ta 152 would be at least 300 km/h faster than a cruising B-29. Even the Japanese could catch it a number of times.
And, since when a bomber stands much of a chance against an interceptor?
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Originally posted by VO101_Isegrim
And, since when a bomber stands much of a chance against an interceptor?
Since AH got formations of buffs with uber converging undispersing sniper lazer cannon.
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Oh PLEASE.. defensive guns from bombers are utter CRAP since AH2 came out. You may be right about AH, but AH is no longer up and running. AH2 is so bad that you literally can NOT hit fighters at dead six at co-speed cruising along at d400. The rounds literally won't hit. Many have reported this.
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Even the Japanese could catch it a number of times.
B-29's operated at much lower altitudes over Japan because of the jetstream. This made interception by Japanese fighters more feasable.
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Keep in mind that the 355mph speed is the B-29's maximum speed at it's best altitude. It cruised much lower. I'd guess between 250mph and 300mph.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Keep in mind that the 355mph speed is the B-29's maximum speed at it's best altitude. It cruised much lower. I'd guess between 250mph and 300mph.
How many people actually cruise in this game?
I would still like to see it added. With a decently high perk value, it would be both a gamble and a fortress to fly. Sure, its fast, large, and well armed, but 90% of higher alt fighters are going to make at least one pass at it. These suckers will be risky.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Oh PLEASE.. defensive guns from bombers are utter CRAP since AH2 came out. You may be right about AH, but AH is no longer up and running. AH2 is so bad that you literally can NOT hit fighters at dead six at co-speed cruising along at d400. The rounds literally won't hit. Many have reported this.
I've been "no pinged" twice in last 24 hours. Once by a B-26 on an "8 to 2" high to low pass and the second time "HO" against a 17 formation...figured with the hi closure and slight offset...was a 11 to one low to high at 400ias (my speed) I was OK...anyway didnt get shot up...literally boom in tower.
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Originally posted by hawker238
How many people actually cruise in this game?
I wasn't talking about in game. I was talking about it's historical usage.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Oh PLEASE.. defensive guns from bombers are utter CRAP since AH2 came out. You may be right about AH, but AH is no longer up and running. AH2 is so bad that you literally can NOT hit fighters at dead six at co-speed cruising along at d400. The rounds literally won't hit. Many have reported this.
they've "fixed" that now
try it ;)
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can you say -SieveFortress? :)
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B-29 is a waste of space. We got the lanc thats big enough. If anything we need some diffrent countries bombers. B-29 would be stupid just be a big server lag ball terorozing the skies of ah.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Sure it should, as an expensive perk bomber.
You mean I might actually have somehting to spend my bomber perks on?! WOW!!
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Oh PLEASE.. defensive guns from bombers are utter CRAP since AH2 came out. You may be right about AH, but AH is no longer up and running. AH2 is so bad that you literally can NOT hit fighters at dead six at co-speed cruising along at d400. The rounds literally won't hit. Many have reported this.
That's the way it should be.
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Originally posted by Kweassa
That's the way it should be.
errm no
flying up a tail gun in WWII was a sure way of ending your war effort.