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Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: owada on August 24, 2004, 10:57:10 AM
Troll/Flame bait.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Gunslinger on August 24, 2004, 11:02:32 AM
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The failure of the U.S. occupation in Iraq has certainly demonstrated the limits to U.S. hegemony. Despite limited armed opposition, U.S. military forces do not seem able to control a single Iraqi city. If rebellion were to become general or if Iraqis had effective weapons against tanks and air power, the U.S. would have to withdraw its army.


I actually made it to this line right here.

I realy hate hearing how we are "failing" in Iraq.  I'm pretty sure our troops feel the same way.  We are not in a "quagmire"  troops arnt comming home in droves of body bags.  

This is an outright lie.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: 1K0N on August 24, 2004, 11:02:54 AM
aaarrrghhhh...wheres my tinfoil hat!
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Wotan on August 24, 2004, 11:18:54 AM
I voted for Pat and would again.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: AKIron on August 24, 2004, 11:23:37 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I actually made it to this line right here.

I realy hate hearing how we are "failing" in Iraq.  I'm pretty sure our troops feel the same way.  We are not in a "quagmire"  troops arnt comming home in droves of body bags.  

This is an outright lie.


There will always be those standing on the sidelines taking cheap shots. Ignore them, they'll go away eventually.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Gunslinger on August 24, 2004, 11:32:41 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
There will always be those standing on the sidelines taking cheap shots. Ignore them, they'll go away eventually.


not to mention the title.  That should have tiped me off this was a total troll.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Sandman on August 24, 2004, 11:41:28 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I realy hate hearing how we are "failing" in Iraq.  I'm pretty sure our troops feel the same way.  We are not in a "quagmire"  troops arnt comming home in droves of body bags.  


While 962 might not constitute a "drove", there doesn't seem to be an end in sight.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: kevykev56 on August 24, 2004, 11:49:10 AM
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Having experienced the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, do Americans wish they had elected Patrick J. Buchanan president? Was Buchanan America's last chance to put a true patriot in the Oval Office?




After reading this a funny thought entered my noggin....."If Ross Perot were president today what do you suppose the current situation in Iraq would be?":eek:


RHIN0
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Sandman on August 24, 2004, 11:49:55 AM
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Originally posted by kevykev56
After reading this a funny thought entered my noggin....."If Ross Perot were president today what do you suppose the current situation in Iraq would be?":eek:


RHIN0


I think Superman could kick Spiderman's ass.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 24, 2004, 11:52:40 AM
Anybody with common sense can see that this is utter nonsense.  If it was meant to convince me that Pat Buchanan was the last true hope for America, it did exactly the opposite; I now see him as even more dangerous and deluded than before.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: rpm on August 24, 2004, 11:56:18 AM
Nearly 1000 lives with no end in sight IS encroaching the drove mark. The troops aren't "losing", they are just overwhelmed. I'm surprised how much sense Buchanan makes. He has his moments.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 24, 2004, 11:58:39 AM
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Originally posted by rpm371
I'm surprised how much sense Buchanan makes. He has his moments.


A wacky Zionist conspiracy theory makes sense?

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: rpm on August 24, 2004, 12:15:59 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
A wacky Zionist conspiracy theory makes sense?

-- Todd/Leviathn

At first glance....yeah, kinda. I can clearly see the symptoms, their explanation for the cause is feasable. Hard to tell much about it from a soundbite.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: AKWeav on August 24, 2004, 12:34:52 PM
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A neoconservative cabal allied with Israel's right-wing Likud Party has captured our government and initiated a new crusade against Islam.


I'd say 9-11 took care of starting that crusade on it's way.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Preon1 on August 24, 2004, 12:42:48 PM
I'm a big fan of Pat Buchanan.  I like a lot of what he stands for (personal freedom, small government, independance from foreign influence).  What I read here does NOT sound like his words.  It sounds at best like a very poor interpretation.

I haven't heard about this book and I'd like to hear what he has to say about the current state of American affairs abroad.  I find it interesting that the statements that I disagree with most are the ones farthest from the quotation marks in this essay.

I think this post is a sham.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: slimm50 on August 24, 2004, 12:43:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think Superman could kick Spiderman's ass.

I'll take that bet:D
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Wotan on August 24, 2004, 01:04:01 PM
Paul Craig Roberts Syndicated Columns (http://www.vdare.com/roberts/all_columns.htm)

Where the Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency by Pat Buchanan (http://www.nrbookservice.com/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c6536)

It's not a sham, Pat's always been anti-zionist. Why do you think at every opportunity he's called an anti-semite?

Have you read

A Republic, Not an Empire: Reclaiming America (http://www.nrbookservice.com/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c5368a)
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: owada on August 24, 2004, 01:30:50 PM
Flame bait.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: owada on August 24, 2004, 01:38:53 PM
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Originally posted by Preon1
I'm a big fan of Pat Buchanan.  I like a lot of what he stands for (personal freedom, small government, independance from foreign influence). .....
I think this post is a sham.


On the one hand you think the post is a sham and on the other you are for independence from foreign influence. Pat Buchanon is one of a handful of US politicians who has the balls to stand up to the Israeli lobby. America has no friends in the world but Israel right now, your closest ally is engaged in the systematic ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinian people from their homeland. What's in it for the American taxpayer ?
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 24, 2004, 01:45:50 PM
Take a hint, owada.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: owada on August 24, 2004, 01:51:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Take a hint, owada.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I have - seems censorship in the 'land of the free' even extends to message boards. Adieu.
Title: Neocon Reason
Post by: Skuzzy on August 24, 2004, 01:53:10 PM
Thus ends this troll/flame bait.