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Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Nilsen on August 24, 2004, 06:32:25 PM: anyone seen this yet

the russians have lost 2 passenger planes within 3 minutes :(
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 24, 2004, 06:33:42 PM: just now ! ??
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Post by: BlueJ1 on August 24, 2004, 06:34:40 PM: watching news bar on tv now
one crashed South of Moscow
another went of radar
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 24, 2004, 06:35:34 PM: Was just about to post this, looks bad.
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Nilsen on August 24, 2004, 06:36:10 PM: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/russia.planecrash/index.html
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 24, 2004, 06:38:25 PM: wow
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Post by: BlueJ1 on August 24, 2004, 06:49:41 PM: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129919,00.html
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: muckmaw on August 24, 2004, 06:58:30 PM: Although it may be early, my condolences to those who had loved ones aboard.

Very odd situation.
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Post by: BigMan on August 24, 2004, 07:18:17 PM: OMG, I hope Russians NUKE those muther 'squealing Chechens
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Post by: BlueJ1 on August 24, 2004, 07:21:06 PM: If were nuking people maybe they can send a stray to the middle east in a few hours. Just enough time to get everyone out.

(this statement was made if repercussions from nuclear attacks didnt exist)
And if it was terrorists I dont think the Ruskies will take it to well, and some think we over reacted.
Title: Terrorist Hijackings in Russia?
Post by: rpm on August 24, 2004, 10:41:52 PM: source (http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040824_2156.html)
Quote
Russian Plane Crashes, Another Disappears
Reports: One Russian Airliner Crashes, Second Disappears; Putin Orders Investigation

The Associated Press

MOSCOW Aug. 24, 2004 — A Russian airliner crashed and a second disappeared from radar about the same time Tuesday night after both planes took off from the Moscow airport, raising fears that terrorism was involved.
There was no word on survivors among the 89 people believed to be aboard the planes, which left from Moscow's Domodedovo airport, Russian news agencies reported.

President Vladimir Putin ordered an investigation by the nation's top intelligence agency, and security was tightened at airports across the country.

A Tu-134 airliner with 43 people aboard crashed in the Tula region, 125 miles south of Moscow, at about 10:56 p.m. Tuesday, Emergency Situations Ministry spokeswoman Marina Ryklina said. She said the plane was carrying 35 passengers and a crew of eight.

A Tu-154 with 46 people aboard lost contact with flight officials about three minutes later near Rostov-on-Don, about 600 miles south of Moscow, Ryklina said. The jet belonged to the Russian airline Sibir, which said the plane disappeared from radar screens at about 11 p.m. Tuesday, Interfax reported. There were 38 passengers and a crew of eight aboard.

Quoting an unnamed air traffic official in Moscow, ITAR-Tass said authorities were not ruling out terrorism. The agency also reported that witnesses said they saw an explosion before the Tula region crash.

In Washington, a senior U.S. State Department official said, "We are obviously concerned by the news. We're following developments closely and trying to determine the facts."

The U.S. Homeland Security Department was monitoring the situation but was not implementing any additional security measures in the United States, spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said.

Hate to hear this.

:(
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Post by: Gunslinger on August 24, 2004, 10:46:41 PM: one plane going down is bad....two is suspect.

of course it wouldnt surpise me. Alot of countries stayed out of Iraq for fear of terrist reprisals. As we've seen lately no country is imune to acts of terrorism, reguardless of political stance.
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: rpm on August 24, 2004, 10:50:58 PM: I heard on TV that a hijacking "silent alarm" signal was sent by the planes. Now to see which set of nutjobs takes credit.
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Gunslinger on August 24, 2004, 10:57:04 PM: I wonder if they use the same IFF transponder codes that we do here.

I cant remember what they are but I know most FAA ASR8 class ATC radars (secondary beacon actualy) have codes for hijacking com failure ect. Sorry didnt mean to get off subject. This is pretty bad, kinda like a miny 911
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Post by: Thrawn on August 24, 2004, 11:06:23 PM: "A hijacking signal was activated on the missing plane, according to the Interfax news agency which quoted an unnamed Russian official."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/08/24/aircrash_040824.html
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Post by: AKIron on August 24, 2004, 11:08:14 PM: Yep, bad news. :(
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Post by: Gh0stFT on August 25, 2004, 01:20:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Alot of countries stayed out of Iraq for fear of terrist reprisals. As we've seen lately no country is imune to acts of terrorism, reguardless of political stance.

We dont know what it was and you talking of Iraq and the
countries who stayed out?? :rolleyes:
Russia fights terrorists long before Iraq happend (i.e chechnya).
But this days ofcourse it musta be linked with Iraq! or was it al-quaida?? umh

R
Gh0stFT
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Dowding on August 25, 2004, 02:53:58 AM: These will be Chechyan types, gunslinger - terrorism was around before 911 and Iraq. And I really don't think Russia being involved in Iraq would have stopped this attack. You have heard of the Moscow apartment bombings which killed hundreds?
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Post by: Eagler on August 25, 2004, 06:35:22 AM: yep, cheekboness come in many flavors

God Speed to the victims and their families and friends
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Dago on August 25, 2004, 08:10:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
I wonder if they use the same IFF transponder codes that we do here.

I cant remember what they are but I know most FAA ASR8 class ATC radars (secondary beacon actualy) have codes for hijacking com failure ect. Sorry didnt mean to get off subject. This is pretty bad, kinda like a miny 911

Maybe we should not advertise this stuff, miko might still be reading this forum, or some other subversive like him.

dago
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Post by: Dowding on August 25, 2004, 08:18:07 AM: Big of you to attack someone who doesn't have the ability to reply.
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Post by: ra on August 25, 2004, 08:24:50 AM: The hijack code is 7500. Now all the terrorists know.
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Boroda on August 25, 2004, 12:01:12 PM: Our beloved law-enforcement doesn't give any reasonable comments. Accident is what suits them best.

Chechenpress already commented something like "Terrorism is not a Chechen way" and "everyone knows it". The same site that boasted that their "freedom fighters" blew up Kursk...

Anyway we have al kids of security measures strengthened in airports (as if there can be anything more done), Militia checking papers of people from Caucasus etc. I have heard at least three loonies from parliament claiming to "strengthen national security measures". Guess what will follow? Even now you'd better not forget your passport when going out to get a pack of cigarettes...

Another crazy thing was a suggestion that both airliners were hijacked to hit nuclear power stations, and shot down to prevent it. I don't believe it.
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Post by: Boroda on August 25, 2004, 12:06:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BigMan
OMG, I hope Russians NUKE those muther 'squealing Chechens

Unfortunately, for the "human rights sake" Russian police forces can't even arrest a known terrorist in Chechnya without European human-rights freaks screaming about "kidnapping" etc.
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Post by: -MZ- on August 25, 2004, 12:25:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
cheekboness come in many flavors

If you say so.
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Post by: Sikboy on August 25, 2004, 01:05:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by -MZ-
If you say so.

:eek:

ROFL.

-Sik
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Post by: Goth on August 25, 2004, 01:14:47 PM: Comeon guys, people have lost their lives and family members...give it a week before you start pissing in each others corn flakes.
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 25, 2004, 01:27:49 PM: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1212&e=10&u=/zd/20040824/tc_zd/133957

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18056

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/24/internetend.shtml
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Post by: B17Skull12 on August 25, 2004, 01:52:18 PM: now this is wierd.
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Post by: Dago on August 25, 2004, 02:07:52 PM: Quote
Big of you to attack someone who doesn't have the ability to reply.

Yawn, if he wasn't such an ***, he wouldn't still be banned. If he hadn't taken every opportunity to badmouth my country, I wouldn't be bothered.

Now go see your dentist, and follow that with a visit to an AA meeting.

dago
Title: 2 russian planes down
Post by: Boroda on August 25, 2004, 02:20:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BlueJ1
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&ncid=1212&e=10&u=/zd/20040824/tc_zd/133957

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18056

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/24/internetend.shtml

Comrade Kaspersky is a little... hmmm... paranoid. He is also in favour of total internet-user control, you can call him an internet-totalitarian.

Anyway, let's see tomorrow.
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Post by: Dowding on August 26, 2004, 09:16:00 AM: I'm sure the irony of your last post viz BBS banning is lost on your tiny mind, Dago.